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Finally ready to add my black triangle sighting to the compendium of UFO anecdotes

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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

i know tell me about it.

it's like how you gunna get fired on your day off?

all my clones are like you gotta be a stupid mofo to get fired on your day off!

anyways. the black triangles aren't really black. i think they got some kinda active optical cloaking like a chameleon.




posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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Soon enough, one of our great and respected scientists will step out of the box and basically tell the world that we need to examine phenomena like this to not only find out what it is, but what it is not. The approach would not start with UFO's and aliens, but instead, "here is a phenomena that requires scientific scrutiny", without any further conjecture until the details pass through the gauntlet of physics.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: charlyv

Jacques Vallee already did, years ago.
He co-designed the Internet and mapped
Mars. Nobody has better credentials
when it comes to UFO research.

But true believers and scientists alike
are programmed in ways that prevent
actual, meaningful research.

Kev



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: charlyv

Jacques Vallee already did, years ago.
He co-designed the Internet and mapped
Mars. Nobody has better credentials
when it comes to UFO research.

But true believers and scientists alike
are programmed in ways that prevent
actual, meaningful research.

Kev


Yes, he did, and is truly a man to be respected.

However, I would hold that the subject requires a much more objective approach, if we indeed want to go forward.

The in-depth physics analysis produces the fuel for statistical analysis.

Almost like a fingerprint, there will be correlations that push the study into areas where there are the best probability for solutions. This is the scientific method, and until that is attempted, we chase our tails.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: charlyv

In physics if you don't chase string theory,
you have no future; and string theory is
so flaky it doesn't deserve the title theory.

In other fields of science there are similar
mental and societal blinders or 'controls'.

This is the programming of which I speak.

In Ufology, one of the secrets is that
observers are linked with the 'UFOs'
as one system. If you research one
or the other, rather than the conjugate
variable pair system, you accomplish
nothing.

Most UFO researchers and 'believers'
are so far off the mark they don't
even rise to the level of being
wrong.

Until the next paradigm shift in physics,
I don't believe this situation will
change.

Kev
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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: charlyv

In physics if you don't chase string theory,
you have no future; and string theory is
so flaky it doesn't deserve the title theory.

In other fields of science there are similar
mental and societal blinders or 'controls'.

This is the programming of which I speak.

In Ufology, one of the secrets is that
observers are linked with the 'UFOs'
as one system. If you research one
or the other, rather than the conjugate
variable pair system, you accomplish
nothing.

Most UFO researchers and 'believers'
are so far off the mark they don't
even rise to the level of being
wrong.

Until the next paradigm shift in physics,
I don't believe this situation will
change.

Kev


I will buy most of that, but as long as it all stays in the scientific arena, the internal conflicts are healthy and many produce discovery points towards real solutions. The scientific method is so important to me, that I will go into detail to further my point.

The scientific method is the holy grail of science, and in essence, defines it.

In the many jobs I have had, I operated in a scientific capacity of some
sort, mostly in software, electronics and geology.

In many of those jobs, my specialty involved the data gatherings end. I
created ways of finding things, or discover interesting patterns that
may be turned over to statisticians that would specialize in the correlation.

My working experience shows to me, that the scientific method is the
only highway to the collective world embracing fact or theory.

While this may be obvious to some people, I am overwhelmed by how many
people do not recognize it as the way the world deals with facts.

If what you are trying to prove has statistical relevance using the
scientific method, then you are probably on the right (and most likely only)
track towards the solution, if their indeed is one.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yes Kev, I concur. UFOlogy has become a quasi religion to many, wholely associated with "Aliens" (Illegal Aliens?).

Yet people still mistake satellites and Venus as "UFOs" and "Aliens",to this day.

So Firstly, thankyou to the OP for telling your experience......you are not alone, and you didnt imagine it.

A search on ATS under "Black Triangles" will find many reports first hand and second/third hand by many posters.

So far, we have had......: My working contractor buddy was a 33 year 5 star General who says we have a Space Command and fly to other stars.
: My Military neighbour told me before he moved, that we own the triangles and even better stuff.
: My wifes cousins sisters boyfriend works in the air force and says these huge triangles land at US bases in early morning 3.00 am etc under strict security with personnel cleared...they are lift platforms and recon units.
: Our Esteemed, and seemingly in the know members of ATS on all things Military Aircraft, have almost confirmed they are real, and are of Human technology, but if he/she told you, they would have to kill you.
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: Myself and dozens of other ATS members have relayed (posted) our observations of these vehicle flying over our heads in complete silence, with experiences almost exactly like yours ...and the other posters on this thread. (and I live 10,000 miles away from the USA in a great Southern Land).

The only conclusion I can come to is......They are ours, they have always been ours....what do people think the scientists have been doing for the past 60 years in top secret underground bases???
If they have'nt come up with something new and mind boggling now, rather than old fashioned rockets, then they must be pretty dumb.

Even Stanton Friedman confirmed that we had NUCLEAR Rocket technology in the 1960s........but it was too dangerous.....something about radiation and suntans.

40 years ago, we flew to the Moon in a tin can.........Is that the best we've got?? After all this time??

And as far as Aliens (or any advanced creature) go, who says they have to live on another planet, or in another star system?.......Earth is pretty big you know, and most of it is covered with water.

Anyway another good thread on triangles, keep them going, one day the Govt will have to confirm the technology. They cant keep killing all the informants.........???
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: gort51

The point of my post was the exact opposite of how it was taken.

Now yes, there are some relatively un-interesting heavy lift vehicles
and some drones, which are sometimes mistaken for UFOs.

But when people see 'craft' that are the size of houses or football
fields, that have a dozen markers for not being one of those
mundane objects --- guess what? Those 'craft' are not those
objects.. they are not "ours".

In fact they are not craft at all..

The "secret" I was alluding to is something akin to something
David Bohm (the physicist) wrote.. it's as obvious as the nose
on one's face, if the smallest research is done.

But due to selection bias, people stick with their incorrect
assumptions.

This sort of thing is why there is very little value in discussing
this topic on the Internet.. why I started my own blog.. and why
my friend JV also finds very little value in trying to have a
rational discussion with anyone.. it just doesn't work.

Kev



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Ok, thanks for the info.....Care to expand briefly on what you mean by "They are not craft at all".

You have piqued my interest.......please do tell.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: gort51

Well gort,

He's saying that the universe is filled with plasma that's sentient. It uses our brains the same way a parasite has a "symbiotic " relationship with its host. Basically the sentient plasma is a new life form and its everywhere. Mostly it likes to mess with your head and cause you to hallucinate. It does this cause that's what it does but also because its all one giant social experiment to make us monkeys hallucinate paranormal and religious things and even aliens and ufos. These sentient plasmas not only can live everywhere fooling everybody in observed but they also exist multidimensionally and have always been with humanity since day one. Their one and only goal is to control us humans by being tricksters so that they can continue living in our brains and inhabiting thevspacecwe share. They even guide humans technologically to make us build things like electronics and wifi so the environment is even more permissive for them to live in. The way they trick us and cayse is to hallucinate changes over the centuries to conform to our artificially directed technological advances and scientific understanding.

I think that's the theory in a nutshell.

As for me I'm going with trillions of dollars dumped into aerospace gets your money's worth sometimes. Breakthroughs in physics occurs and sometimes remain classified for a long time to give the nation who discovered and developed these new advances a military and technological advantage.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

What about the break-away civilization
harvesting our dreams? Do you no longer
believe that theory?

As for the black ops stuff...I'm not saying
it's not there. It is. But its only a small
part of the puzzle with limited
explanatory power.

As for your characterization of what
I've been writing.... a slight mock...
but that's acceptable... you have at
least paid attention... thanks.

Actually the theory has progressed
past that point....it's not just
trickster phenomena.... I'll be
writing much more and see
if I can make testable predictions

Kev



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

never did.

i like you Kev cause you stick to your convictions and are never afraid to defend yourself.

i personally think the universe has a lot more going on at a quantum level than we understand.

that a lot of the phenomena associated with the paranormal and hallucinations are by products of our brain interacting with how energy couples and or transfers from one state to another like a deeply woven and very complex fine mesh.

that due to this there are interactions with how our brain perceives phenomena and how it presents it to ourselves. this leads to hallucinations and some ufo and paranormal experiences. I've noticed the nature of the hallucinations often conform to our personal beliefs and understandings of nature. back in the day people saw dieties, miracles and fairies. now they see aliens and mystical stuff or whatever. but the fact the experiences match to the persons beliefs (generally) it would point to the issue being internal.

basically the brain ain't perfect and screws up a lot when analyzing sensory data. always has always will.

now that we understand a little bit better the science behind the finer details of the universe we may be discovering whats behind these malfunctions and that we have more sensitivity to these quantum interactions than we ever knew.

that now that we understand them a little better we maybe even able to exploit these interactions for good and bad.

but i don't see how all of that points to any form of extraterrestrial, uktradimensional or otherwise sentience. coukd all just be something totally natural and unbiased.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

A great response. We are in fundamental
agreement about the bulk of it then.

But "this phenomena" is much more
than people know.. and much more
entwined with fundamental processes.

Characterizing it as "plasma" is not
untrue... but it's a crude analogy. But
it's a first step. Call it partial symmetry
breaking from the unified field.

I believe we will find that these phenomena
are closely tied to our personal internal
processes and our societal processes
both.

For example in the late 1800's people
saw blimps just before they were
publicly coming out, just like people
are seeing black triangles now....

sometimes people see 'one of yours'
and sometimes people see one of
'mine'.

The phenomenon can materialize physical
substance or physical substance analoge;
the phenomenon can output more energy
than a small city in a few feet space. It's
not just 'in the head'.

The reason I don't back down, is because
I've done my research, I've conferred with
the world expert, and I've grown up with
this stuff for 54 years.

There is much more to discuss and
research.

Kev



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

fascinating response. sounds like a tulpa. would love to get your thought on those. not sure if I momentarily created one once as a kid.

but your analog is more like a quantum powered tulpa. where it has the access to the quantum potential flux and the "zero point" energy associated.

i like some of that idea.

i also believe that creating quantum potential or bias creates real particles from ghost virtual particles occilating up and down the quantum spectrum. could be more in this universe that exploits that mechanism besides us humans. i also think one of the big break throughs in quantum science that's kept on the downlow is just that discovery and so far we've been able to get our foot in the door with it from a QED or solid state electronics standpoint.

love how amazing and deeply textured and interwoven the universe is turning out to be.

great post btw.

would like your thoughts. looks like we've found some common ground.
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Whats funny here is that "harvesting our dreams" is a metaphore for something else most likely. Subconscious suggestion maybe?



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

partially. he was also alluding to real technology. and how it relates to a lot of interesting phenomena and tech. wireless brain/machine interfaces for data transmission and other stuff. i can fill you in with a Im later when I have time to write it all out.

some parts of it are true.
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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stupid double post
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
stupid double post


Yeah th eCIA have a brainwave reader as we speak bu tyeah feel free to PM me anything interesting.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

you n me are in accord in a lot of things.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

I see that you are picking up the very sort
of things I'm researching. For example I'm
nearly certain that something akin to the
Casmir effect is routinely happening at the
neuronal gap scale... this is likely the
physical mechanism behind us humans
being played like musical instruments
to manifest high strangeness. This bypasses
the quantum coherence problem with the
human body.

But we should discuss this in a more
appropriate Thread.

Kev




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