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originally posted by: Seanoamericano
a reply to: IAMTAT
Iran has not attacked another nation in how many hundreds of years. I think its about time to discuss israels hundreds of Nukes and demand they abide by the same rules as Iran.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: beezzer
Own it all.
This would never have happened if the embargo had still been in place.
And that's a good thing. That's called progress.
Also, the rise of ISIS never would've happened if Saddam had still been in place. By your logic, I guess all conservatives are responsible for ISIS because of Bush's legacy. Own it. Own it all.
originally posted by: CrawlingChaos
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: beezzer
Own it all.
This would never have happened if the embargo had still been in place.
And that's a good thing. That's called progress.
Also, the rise of ISIS never would've happened if Saddam had still been in place. By your logic, I guess all conservatives are responsible for ISIS because of Bush's legacy. Own it. Own it all.
Actually the rise of ISIS has more to do with the empowering of the L.I.F.G, jabhat-al nusra, and the toppling of the Libyian Government than it does with Iraq. Of course, arming them, and sending them into Syria didn't help at all either. Even if Saddam had been in power still, the administrations plans & handling of Libya, and in some part Syria ; Would have still foemented the creation of ISIS.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Seanoamericano
a reply to: IAMTAT
Iran has not attacked another nation in how many hundreds of years. I think its about time to discuss israels hundreds of Nukes and demand they abide by the same rules as Iran.
Iran has been at war with Western Civilization since at least the 70s if not earlier. But they have been smart about it by using proxy soldiers.
Why is it time to discuss Israel? Have they shouted "Death to [Insert country here]!!" ? Especially during negotiations with that country?
Have they adopted an ideology that calls for the deaths of their enemies?
Have they threatened to push any ethnicity or nation into a sea or ocean?
Do they have a history of killing their own people? Or suppressing them?
Have they sent proxy soldiers into another country and killed soldiers with IEDs?
Have they armed terrorists?
As soon as Israel starts acting like that then yes we can treat them the same as Iran.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: CrawlingChaos
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: beezzer
Own it all.
This would never have happened if the embargo had still been in place.
And that's a good thing. That's called progress.
Also, the rise of ISIS never would've happened if Saddam had still been in place. By your logic, I guess all conservatives are responsible for ISIS because of Bush's legacy. Own it. Own it all.
Actually the rise of ISIS has more to do with the empowering of the L.I.F.G, jabhat-al nusra, and the toppling of the Libyian Government than it does with Iraq. Of course, arming them, and sending them into Syria didn't help at all either. Even if Saddam had been in power still, the administrations plans & handling of Libya, and in some part Syria ; Would have still foemented the creation of ISIS.
No, you're wrong on that. There was no al-Qaeda in Iraq, nor any other Wahhabi terrorist groups in Iraq under Saddam's reign. Love him or hate him, but he crushed all internal opposition equally. ISIS never would've found shelter in Iraq under Saddam.
So using the logic of the person I responded to, Bush bringing down Saddam created the conditions that allowed ISIS to form & prosper. Remember, the 2nd "I" in ISIS/ISIL stands for Iraq.