Feds limit research on marijuana for medical use

This whole issue of Cannabis legalization is a no brainer...I mean even conservative Christians would have to concede that the "PLANT" should be legal. Hemp/Cannabis actually epitomizes the description given in Genesis of the plants given by God to mankind for mankind's blessing. How much plainer can it get ??? Someone please start a petition and let's get this ball rolling...it is the one issue that can polarize society and bring about change on the deepest level...period !!!

a reply to: Sublimecraft

What really surprises me is not the blatant hypocrisy that the government displays here, but the "meh" reaction to this that the majority of citizens seem to simply accept.

Let's look at the big picture - just in the last 24-48hrs they (FDA) have approved the release of a female viagra pill (that no-ones ever heard of and should be right down low on the list of things government and big-pharma push onto the population) AND despite fears over it's side effects and lack of proper testing.......and on the other hand the federal government imposes research limitations on medical Marijuana benefits.

Surely that's a conspiracy right there?

Insane backwardsassed policies is to blame for the current government lateral thinking limitations which has led to a failed war of drugs

Now I know your powers of observation serve you well Sub.
You see the direction this leaning like a sixties Batman
series.

originally posted by: FinalCountdown
a reply to: TrappedPrincess
Hmmm.... Interesting.

Does this mean that big tobacco created gangsta rap in the 90's?

Does snoop dog work for big tobacco?

Hmmmm...

No that would have been the for profit prison system and owners who are also heavily invested in the entertainment industry to blame for that. I'm not the first to say it, look it up and see what you can find. Deep rabbit hole there, the part that makes me sad is that a certain demographic can't even as a whole grasp the hypnotism that has been guiding them down a self destructive path for what it is and who is behind it. I became a teen in the 90's with the emergence of gangsta rap and know first hand that it had a negative effect on my mental thought process. Fortunately I shook that off for the most part in my 20's but still hold a soft spot for some of the pioneers. I just don't emulate the vulgar profane things I hear but instead find amusement within the antics and lyrics.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This plant wont be legalized without a fight from lobbyists. You need to see big pharma as one of those fraudulent mechanics. Where they have these different variety of drugs that treats one thing, but screws over the rest of the body. But Big pharmacy has treatment for that too, but again it screws over the previews part of the body that was treated initially. Same as a fraudulent mechanic who tends to fix something and damage another to ensure returning customers.

cannabis would undermine the whole thing.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Well besides the conspiracy angle, I'm pretty sure that the Pharmaceutical lobby fights against marijuana because they can't control the source of distribution. Any bloke can grow a plant in his basement or garden to treat their ailments, and the big name pharmaceutical companies don't like that.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Well besides the conspiracy angle, I'm pretty sure that the Pharmaceutical lobby fights against marijuana because they can't control the source of distribution. Any bloke can grow a plant in his basement or garden to treat their ailments, and the big name pharmaceutical companies don't like that.

Don't forget you then in turn do NOT need their garbage pills they are ramming down your throat either!

They would stand to lose TONS of business if this was legalized! It will take the overwhelming majority to even compete with big pharma.....

You see they authorized use of Oxycontin to kids as young as 11 now? They need to go away, like NOW!!!

a reply to: TrappedPrincess

Ty for that link.. this is something i have always been interested in but dont know how to invest or where to even begin.

I would gladly do the 3 or 400 in a couple different companies.

Russell Brand has a documentary on Netflix that highlights the failures of the war on drugs. It's called "End The Drugs War" and it's very enlightening.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

If that's the kind of "addiction" you meant, then it wasn't worth bringing up. So, that being the case, one has to wonder.... why did you?

I predict once the feds work out how to implement medical marijuana in the health care (big pharma) and insurance (fraud) systems, they will rebrand it, give it a new name, and 'prove' its safe and non addictive , vs the stuff you can buy from your local dispensary then they will remove it from schedule 1. then we'll see the lovely ads where people who have chronic pain are smiling in relief and they'll use nice images of vets finally finding safe alternative relief from the drugs they were initially pumping them up with too.
and becomes a multi billion dollar (legal) industry (scam) over night

a reply to: Blazemore2000

Because it is a common fallacy that marijuana isn't addictive, that's not true. Just making sure the record is straight so that the people who like to join these threads and go on and on about how marijuana IS addictive as their only point for contributing into the thread don't do that.

originally posted by: alienjuggalo
a reply to: TrappedPrincess

Ty for that link.. this is something i have always been interested in but dont know how to invest or where to even begin.

I would gladly do the 3 or 400 in a couple different companies.

Easiest way is open an account with an online broker such as Etrade or Ameritrade. Set up your account and do some research and start investing. It is pretty easy actually, I was kind of intimidated by the whole process myself at first but it is really simple that way. No middle man brokerage firm just you, your capital and your intuition. Good luck I hope you find something that suits you.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

Well don't get me wrong. I don't think the pharmaceutical industry is all bad, so it's not like I want the entire industry to go away. Heck, I don't even want it to be crippled. There ARE some truly great medicines out there thanks to that industry, but like you highlighted, the pain killer medicines are getting out of hand. Especially since they are so addictive. It seems that the pharmaceutical industry has tapped into the same evil marketing scheme that made the tobacco industry so powerful. Exploiting highly addictive substances, and THAT is a huge problem.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Blazemore2000

Because it is a common fallacy that marijuana isn't addictive, that's not true. Just making sure the record is straight so that the people who like to join these threads and go on and on about how marijuana IS addictive as their only point for contributing into the thread don't do that.

I wouldn't say that it is physically addictive as their are no physical withdrawal symptoms. Mentally I could see to an extent only because I knew one guy who would lose his sh** without it but that was an isolated individual and the only one I've ever come across like that. Maybe a little irritability as I have experienced that myself but I also gave it up for 4 years to join the Corps with no complaints.

So I think we need to be honest about the degree of so called addiction here and not just say flat out addiction. It is like coke vs heroin for example, heroin is notorious for having HORRIBLE physical withdrawal symptoms whereas coke heads just get irritable and really really want their fix which is really all in their own head simply because they like the feeling so much and want to maintain it as much as possible.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Why does SO much money have to go towards studying marijuana abuse and addiction?

That's one that I think needs to be looked at. I think the jury has come back on that one.

Can You Overdose On Marijuana?
Marijuana is a highly used drug all over the world for both recreational and medicinal use. It comes from the “cannabis” plant and can be used in foods or smoked. Depending on how potent the strain is, the effects can be short-term and long term. There is a chance of overdose from marijuana if too much of the drug is used. However, can you die from ingesting too much Marijuana? Let’s take a look at the effects of marijuana and what an overdose might feel like.

Can You Overdose On Marijuana?

Effect of Ingesting Too Much Marijuana --“Greening Out”

A temporary overdose of marijuana can occur and is called “greening out.” It is important to understand that a temporary overdose of marijuana will not result in permanent disability or death, but can be quite common in people who have not used the drug often. The following are the symptoms of too much marijuana in the system:

Temporary feelings of paranoia, fear and anxiety
Shortness of breath
Pupil dilation
Vomiting and/or nausea
Fast heart rate
Shaking that is hard to control, feeling cold
Disorientation or hallucinations
Hangover
This phenomenon passes on its own within minutes to hours of marijuana use. If the symptoms are severe, medical attention needs to be obtained to make sure the user is closely observed for complications. There is a chance that some marijuana obtained on the street could contain stronger chemicals and drugs that could cause a person to become very ill. In this case, someone could suffer from dangerous side effects. There is also a slight risk of using too much marijuana with underlying health conditions and suffering severe reactions to the drug.

www.newhealthguide.org...

So the danger is feeling crappy for a few hours. I know quite a few people who had this happen the first time they indulged, and decided not to ever do it again because it made them feel so bad. But the schedule 1 classification is BS for many reasons, this being one.

They don't need to spend any more money studying anything other than how it can be used effectively in medicine and manufacturing. Make it legal, tax it, and move on. As much as I enjoy a beer, I think alcohol is more dangerous than this.

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We have so much to thank Nixon for.... not.

I think the war on drugs is the target we should be affixed upon rather than awarding more regulatory power to the FDA by rescheduling.

I am certainly not opposed to states nullifying unconstitutional federal laws though as an interim measure.

Donald Trump has said he would legalize all drugs... hopefully someone does soon with all these designer drugs coming from china and pakistan. Use the addicts as cheap labor just offer them tickets to a government owned drug den.

originally posted by: Acidx

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We have so much to thank Nixon for.... not.

I think the war on drugs is the target we should be affixed upon rather than awarding more regulatory power to the FDA by rescheduling.

I am certainly not opposed to states nullifying unconstitutional federal laws though as an interim measure.

Donald Trump has said he would legalize all drugs... hopefully someone does soon with all these designer drugs coming from china and pakistan. Use the addicts as cheap labor just offer them tickets to a government owned drug den.

Really?? Thats awesome! I really hope you're right about that.
Do you have a link to this?

If true, one more reason to like Trump.

Sorry if this has been posted in the thread but I do indeed it applies quite nicely to the OP :-)
The "The 23 Worst Overreactions To Marijuana" is the theme and after reading through the post I am most definitely lucky that I do not live in a 6x12 room till the day I die.

www.cracked.com...

S&F
Regards, Iwinder

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Petition to Congress

I will do what I can to pass this around, but I really am not active on social media. So it's up to you guys to spread the word. Spam the hell out of everyone you know.

a reply to: ladyvalkyrie

There was already a petition, and I was all set to sign, but the dip sh*t author starts going on about arresting people for DUI (how would you ever prove that?) and saying that only GOVERNMENT OWNED AND OPERATED dispensaries should be in charge of it. Ummm....no.

Go at it from the medical angle, get the foot in the door, and then go from there.