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Biggest Gay Lobby Group in America Urges Schools to Ban Words ‘Boy’ and ‘Girl’

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posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

No, but why is it "helping" the kid to remove the color?

Part of the reason why the teacher tells all the children to pick up their red crayons is to make sure those kids learn their colors. Believe it or not, not every child knows them, so it wouldn't be helpful to erase the colors from the curriculum to avoid hurting the feelings of the blind and color blind children.

Similarly, we can avoid the labels of boy/girl, male/female, but eventually they will be taught those concepts in science class and biology and the hurt will have to come up all over again. "Mom, why did I get born a male if I'm a girl?"



What do you do with the intersex kid? What do you do with the trans* kid?

Why does the suggestion that there might be other ways to group kids together that are less hurtful to some make you so ... passionate?




posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

No, but why is it "helping" the kid to remove the color?


No one is suggesting we remove the color! Oh, for Christ's sake! Never mind. It's not worth my energy to try to convince closed-minded people to be kind.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

What should happen is that teachers (and everyone else) should just not scold or embarrass a little boy who wants to be in line with the girls because he identifies as one. And same for the little girl who identifies as a boy. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with stating a physiological truth. And if the child is hermaphroditic or non-gendered, the teacher can juse allow that child to join either line as well. As far as a term to call out, I can't personally think of one. But it's not the fact of understanding whether you have a penis or a vagina, or both, or neither, that has the potential to harm a child's psyche. It's the stereotypes and biases about it that hurt.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I can't speak for other people. But I can find something wrong with anything except things that I agree with. I am outraged for the sake of being outraged. I do not think things through very well sometimes, but I know one thing – I disagree with the homosexual agenda. They will destroy us all.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Amazingly and eloquently said.

Stars and fireworks for you!



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
What do you do with the intersex kid? What do you do with the trans* kid?


Let them deal with it as everyone else out there that is different.


Why does the suggestion that there might be other ways to group kids together that are less hurtful to some make you so ... passionate?


IDK about anyone else but I find that removing designations that we have had forever to be ridiculous.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
Lets just call them its and get on with the real important issue that's actually important you know that thing called education this is why we are behind other countries.


or just call them students, and get on with the education part



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Similarly, we can avoid the labels of boy/girl, male/female, but eventually they will be taught those concepts in science class and biology and the hurt will have to come up all over again. "Mom, why did I get born a male if I'm a girl?"

What would you do if your little boy (he's 5, if I recall correctly - right?) told you 7 or 8 years from now that he is gay? Or 20 years from now? How would you respond?

What if he told you that he'd met a perfect girl, and it turned out she was transgendered?

Or that his best friend was gay??



edit on 8/18/2015 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: pfishy

Right, I think you're constructing a bit of a perfect world there, but I get what you're saying.

I still don't see the issue with using different ways/descriptors for "groups" when necessary.

/shrug



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

No. What I was referring to, was the excessive display of sex, homosexuality, is just the flavor of the year, reducing it to being passé.

Maybe it is because I am an old broad, but after 2 episodes, I didn't even see the sex scenes anymore, and there were plenty of them. They took on the same awareness level as commercials, just an annoyance in the background you wait to be over until the story starts again. So I ask myself, why even bother with it. Okay, it will draw in the crowd that aren't really into to SciFi, and boost you viewer ratings, but even that crowd is going to become bored with the same old crap over and over.

How much explicit sex, and our cups over floweth, is it going to take before people are so desensitized, that they are looking for that next level of excitement to give their life purpose; that next item for chasing away boredom?



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

So, 15 boys, 17 girls, and "me."

1. Yeah, I guess that's the same as having red hair or being left handed. We all remember how much fun it was as a kid to be "the only one" in the room.

2. Designations aren't being removed. Alternate designations are being suggested.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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Might as well separate fat kids versus skinny kids.

Red hair, blond hair.

Tall, short.

Ugly, pretty.

Too much silliness going on.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Men don't make passes at girls who wear glasses, either. Pffft.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: intrepid
We all remember how much fun it was as a kid to be "the only one" in the room.


I sure as hell do.


2. Designations aren't being removed. Alternate designations are being suggested.


Semantics.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer


Too much silliness going on.



Yup and not enough teaching.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that most of the time, teachers who want this kind of information already know that they have a kid in their class with possible gender identity issues, and they are looking for information on how best to deal with it. They probably go to their administrator, who either refers the teacher to the HRC's "Welcoming Schools" website, or if there are multiple kids like this in their school, they may contact an HRC representative for assistance.

I'm sure any teacher who tries the ideas out for a while will either find that they work well for his/her classroom, or they don't. If they don't, no sweat, just drop it and move on. This really, really is not a big deal and won't traumatize any kids in the least.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I don't think that a lot of available examples of sex of whatever variety is a new thing.

That's always been the "draw" of cable.

30-40 years, we haven't fallen into the abyss, yet.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Yeah, me too.

Sometimes, semantics are important.



posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: ketsuko
This idea that somehow we can completely eliminate it is about as utopian as the idea that we can make everyone's outcome in life perfectly equal.


No one is suggesting that we completely eliminate it. A suggestion has been made to help make it better. WTF's wrong with striving to get closer to Utopia, anyway?

Would it be OK for the teacher to say, "OK, all the fat kids over here, the thin kids over there"? Or "OK, all the kids with funny-looking teeth over here, the kids with good teeth over there"?

What people don't realize is that gender identity issues cause as much of not more emotional distress as everything else kids get teased about. Why WOULDN'T teachers, who love their students and want the best for them, be willing to take suggestions to help kids to grow up more stable and emotionally secure. What's WRONG with that??


Are you seriously equating calling a boy a boy with calling a kid fat?

Is that really where society is now? Addressing a classroom as "boys and girls" is on equal footing with fat-shaming somebody?




posted on Aug, 18 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: beezzer

Men don't make passes at girls who wear glasses, either. Pffft.


That's because of cooties.



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