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Texas Officer From Viral Photo Compares #BlackLivesMatter to KKK and Skinheads

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posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

Uh oh, you called somebody a racist. Now you've done it. It's not PC to call people racist. We're all supposed to pretend that bigotry doesn't exist so that we don't offend the fragile hate mongering morons in society.




posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: nullafides

The photo may still get the same reaction but to tie this to the police if they aren't real officers is just adding flames to an already rough relationship between police and various groups.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
I am reading this thread, and it is p'n me off. My family consists of white folks in this country since 1621, so we have been here for a while, and I have written evidence that some of mine have owned some of yours in the past. And I am sorry, this was a sad part of of North American History.

But for the rest of you idiots to deny that systematic racism has existed since the end of the civil war is assinine. Jim Crow and all, and y'all are going to deny that black folks have been held down. Want to pull out my grandfather's purchase agreement from 1955 for his burial plot, that told him he could not sell it to person of color. Or talk to my mother who graduated HS in 1957, small town Missouri, and they still had the colored school.

Or my little town in Missouri who threw a fit in 1972, when they had a section 8 housing situation, and OMG, we had negroes living in my town. This crap has gone on for too long, we all bleed the same color, we are all the same, when are you racist asshats going to realize that.


Why are there all black schools still and not all white? Why is there a TV station that is BET (Black Entertainment Television)? That is continuing racism. Not to mention there are all black fraternity's and sorority's, there are no all white ones, they may discreminate, but that is class to class. The black ones literally won't even accept a white person's application. Racism still lives and more with the coloreds today.


Because people are still idiots and don't understand that things were white only for a long time, the blacks are trying to catch up. I will pretty much bet that I could walk up and pledge a black fraternity and be accepted, maybe not, I am old guy. Your use of the term coloreds tells me all I need to know about you, I lived in the south for several years.


I am in my late 20's and was in a fraternity. We had 3 black people out of 70 guys, a few mexicans thrown in there. This is coming from a very white state in the Midwest. But no, a white person could not go into an all black fraternity and be accepted, it is in their code, I have spoken to them about the fact-several times. There were several times I was recruiting a black person to join our fraternity and a black fraternity on campus would call me and tell me to not pursue him, he was "their ground to indoctrinate first," I swear those were the words I was told on multiple occasions. If you want to know more about me, I lived in the same house as Johnny Carson did when he was in our fraternity.


Amazing, I am in my mid 50's, first wife was half Mexican thrown in. I have my serious doubts that you have spoken to 10 black people in your life. Your fraternity doesn't interest me, I spent seven years in the military, unless you spent seven years in college, probably not even close to the same experienced. You have once again exposed your racist attitude with the "few mexicans thrown in" comment, my children are 1/4 mexican, you sir are a racist



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: iDope
Why are there all black schools still and not all white?

Where? Places where the primary populations is black? Like places where the primary population is white?

originally posted by: iDope
Why is there a TV station that is BET (Black Entertainment Television)?


Good question, I know the answer but for some reason I don't think you would grasp it. You could ask this white guy to change the name though, since he owns it.
en.wikipedia.org...


originally posted by: iDope
Not to mention there are all black fraternity's and sorority's, there are no all white ones, they may discreminate, but that is class to class.

This is a lie.

originally posted by: iDope
coloreds


Are you racist? :-D Be honest.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sigh.

BlackLivesMatter is an organization fighting racism, profiling, and filtering against blacks by police that results in brutality, violence, or death. It addresses a speciic and very real issue in this country.

In this context, AllLivesMatter is what exactly?

Vacuous.

This is bad enough....


Except that if the life mattered wouldnt it be about what act took the MOST black lives?

If that being the case , then wouldnt they be concerned about the CRIMES that are doing that?

Weird
edit on 15-8-2015 by Simmderdown because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: nullafides


I personally do not care whether you like cops or not, regardless of what they've done or been accused of doing...

But this viral photos is what matters to me...







Original article

#BlackLivesMatter *IS* a racist front. It *IS* no different than the KKK or Skinheads.


We are either in this together, or we're not in it at all.

I'd give my life for yours...would you gives yours for mine?

Flame on. Chances are, I won't even read any responses to this. I can hear the crying now.


How many people have "Black Lives Matter" killed? Because the KKK has killed many thousands of Americans, burned a countless number of black majority churches, and personally maintained Jim Crow laws in the South. In its prime in the 1920s, the KKK claimed control over more than half of the state legislatures, with 1 in every 4 white males in the South being official members.

Skinheads & neo-Nazis follow the teachings and ideology of Hitler and the Nazis. The Nazis literally killed 10s of millions of people, including being responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million white Slavic people. Most historians put that number closer to 20 million, but I'm trying to be nice here.

So how is "Black Lives Matter" anywhere close to this? That's like me saying the Tea Party is no different than Chingiss Khan/Genghis Khan's empire because they both needed to breathe, eat, and sleep.

This is literally why politicians dumb things down so much. Because apparently some people can't understand any more complex than "me good, he bad, hurr hurr hurr".

Also, is this supposed to be good or bad? Since actual KKK members & skinheads are extremely right wing. So is a KKK or neo-Nazi sympathizer on the right wing supposed to support "Black Lives Matter" now or not? Y'all can't even get your stories straight.


wait so you are taking a relatively new movement, asking how many they have killed

then taking skinhead neo-nazis, and saying hitler killed millions? have skinheads killed millions? we know the democrat KKk killed a lot of black folks for sure!

history sucks huh?


-facepalm-

Did you miss the entire point of this thread? The OP is the one comparing this "relatively new movement" to skinheads and the KKK. Or did you not read that far?

And yes, I pointed out why BLM is nothing like skinheads or the KKK. Then I presented facts. But apparently my post was too long for you to get that?

Oh sorry, I need to be brief. "OP make comparison, I show OP's comparison not valid. Me also not Dem, me independent! Oooh oooh ohh! And if KKK so bad, why extreme right wing still embrace them? Hurr hurr hurr!"



skinheads and KKK are racist
BLM is racist

theres your comparisson all neat and tidy without the whole but but how many people were killed diatribe

youre welcome

also the EXTREME right are a minority just like the EXTREME left


And I already posted why that comparison is invalid.

You can't compare someone to the KKK without mentioning the violence the KKK committed. That was the KKK's whole point: to maintain racial segregation by any means necessary, legal & illegal. BLM is absolutely nothing like that. Hence why the comparison is invalid.

Same goes with skinheads & neo-Nazis, who follow actual Nazis. They were another absolutely violent & genocidal organization that killed 10s of millions of people. They controlled a government & conquer several other countries. BLM is nothing like that.

Also, how can you, an apparent right winger, compare BLM to the KKK & skinheads when today's actual KKK & skinheads are right wingers too? Do you reject them & their sympathizers or do you accept them? Because if you accept them, then say BLM are like them, wouldn't you accept BLM too?


are the KKK racist? yes
is BLM racist? yes...are BLM murderers? not yet.....

there we go


Thanks. You just proved my original point about why politicians dumb things down so much. Because apparently some people can't understand anything more complex than "me good, he bad, hurr hurr hurr".

Lemme guess, the word "blackmail" is racist too since it's not "black-n-whitemail"?


do i look like al sharpton to you? snow is white! therefor its racist!!


You're the one comparing BLM to the KKK & skinheads. There's no way you can know anything of substance about either of those groups then come to the conclusion that they're similar.

"Hey, Genghis Khan's empire & the Tea Party are just alike because they both breathe air. Totally similar!"


the ONLY comparison ive made is that they are both racist...which they are, you on the other hand want to include number of kills which is redundant considering BLM are a new movement and thus far havent killed anyone, yet want to go back hundreds of years to bring up the deaths by KKK.....so your argument is invalid

so like i said and will say again..they are both racist


1. BLM isn't racist. It isn't racist to say we want the judicial system to treat us like we matter, the same way they treat other demographics like their lives matter. Virtually every study agrees that we & Hispanic people get harsher treatment than every other American demographic in every step of the judicial system

2. You & the OP both compared BLM to skinheads & the KKK. I keep pointing out that those 2 are vast organizations that committed a laundry list of atrocities & other policies. Omitting all of those obvious differences just to prove their single supposed similarity is being disingenuous at best. Hence my admittedly mocking comparisons about Genghis Khan & the Tea Party, since they have no similarities other than being humans. but hey, that's one comparison, so that makes it valid, right?

3. It wasn't back "hundreds of years ago". The KKK's 2nd biggest claim to power was in the 1950s and 1960s. Their first peak was in the 1920s, also less than 100 years ago. They were specifically against the Civil Rights Movement. They were also specifically against interracial marriages, which were only made legal in 1967. Many people on ATS right now were actual witnesses to their marches, speeches, and atrocities. So your point here is invalid too.

Also, Hitler & the Nazis whom modern neo-Nazis follow wasn't 100 years ago, either. There are many people who are alive now who were alive during WWII. This is recent history.
edit on 15-8-2015 by enlightenedservant because: clarified my first point. grrr



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Simmderdown

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sigh.

BlackLivesMatter is an organization fighting racism, profiling, and filtering against blacks by police that results in brutality, violence, or death. It addresses a speciic and very real issue in this country.

In this context, AllLivesMatter is what exactly?

Vacuous.

This is bad enough....


Except that if the life mattered wouldnt it be about what act took the MOST black lives?

If that being the case , then wouldnt they be concerned about the CRIMES that are doing that?

Weird


Huh?



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Tsubaki




This is a lie.



Proof there are none please



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sigh.

BlackLivesMatter is an organization/movement calling attention to and fighting racism, profiling, and filtering against blacks by police that results in brutality, violence, or death. It addresses a specific and very real issue in this country.

In this context, AllLivesMatter is what exactly?

Vacuous.


When there is a white or mexican killed by police where do #BlackLivesMatter stand? In the corner like a black wallflower, because they are racist. They only care about Black Lives, it is in the text and in their name for MLK's sake.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

I really didnt think it was that hard to understand



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: BubbaJoe

Uh oh, you called somebody a racist. Now you've done it. It's not PC to call people racist. We're all supposed to pretend that bigotry doesn't exist so that we don't offend the fragile hate mongering morons in society.


I actually posted something earlier about historical bigotry, but thank you for the warning. This is going to be interesting, to say the least exchange, I was born and raised in Missouri, and have a background in history.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: Simmderdown

Literally the first google result:

www.washingtonpost.com...



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: Tsubaki
a reply to: Simmderdown

Literally the first google result:

www.washingtonpost.com...



Weird




Beginning with the Prince Hall Freemasonry, there are many historically Black fraternal organizations. The organizations include members such as Congressman John Lewis, a member of Phi Beta Sigma, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., a member of Alpha Phi Alpha and Sigma Pi Phi;Bobby Rush, a member of Iota Phi Theta; Jesse Jackson, a member of Omega Psi Phi; and Wilt Chamberlain, a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Some organizations, such as the Prince Hall Masons, Swing Phi Swing and Groove Phi Groove don't use Greek letters solely. The first and oldest successful African-American collegiate fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha, was formally established as a fraternity at Cornell University in 1906, though it operated as a social study club in 1905. Precursors to Alpha Phi Alpha included Sigma Pi Phi (a non-collegiate fraternity), and unsuccessful attempts such as Gamma Phi Fraternity at Wilberforce University (first campus recognition documented in 1923; a 1923 yearbook entry reported operation as early as 1905), Alpha Kappa Nu at Indiana University (formation attempted in 1903, but involved too few registrants to assure continuing organization), and Pi Gamma Omicron at Ohio State University (formation originally reported in the Chicago Defender in 1905; but organization failed to receive school recognition). Through 1920, the eight organizations who made up the National Pan-Hellenic Council until 1996 would be formed. In 1996 Iota Phi Theta was invited into the National Pan-Hellenic Council, which then created the "Divine 9". Black fraternities and sororities were based on existing fraternities and sororities but cultural additions were made including calls, open hand signs, and step shows; though social in nature, many African-American fraternal organizations were formed with an emphasis on public service and civil rights.





Name Founded Incorporated
Sigma Pi Phi 1904 Yes
Alpha Phi Alpha 1906 Yes
Kappa Alpha Psi 1911 Yes
Omega Psi Phi 1911 Yes
15 more rows, 3 more columns


you literally didnt google hard enough



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
I am reading this thread, and it is p'n me off. My family consists of white folks in this country since 1621, so we have been here for a while, and I have written evidence that some of mine have owned some of yours in the past. And I am sorry, this was a sad part of of North American History.

But for the rest of you idiots to deny that systematic racism has existed since the end of the civil war is assinine. Jim Crow and all, and y'all are going to deny that black folks have been held down. Want to pull out my grandfather's purchase agreement from 1955 for his burial plot, that told him he could not sell it to person of color. Or talk to my mother who graduated HS in 1957, small town Missouri, and they still had the colored school.

Or my little town in Missouri who threw a fit in 1972, when they had a section 8 housing situation, and OMG, we had negroes living in my town. This crap has gone on for too long, we all bleed the same color, we are all the same, when are you racist asshats going to realize that.


Why are there all black schools still and not all white? Why is there a TV station that is BET (Black Entertainment Television)? That is continuing racism. Not to mention there are all black fraternity's and sorority's, there are no all white ones, they may discreminate, but that is class to class. The black ones literally won't even accept a white person's application. Racism still lives and more with the coloreds today.


Because people are still idiots and don't understand that things were white only for a long time, the blacks are trying to catch up. I will pretty much bet that I could walk up and pledge a black fraternity and be accepted, maybe not, I am old guy. Your use of the term coloreds tells me all I need to know about you, I lived in the south for several years.


I am in my late 20's and was in a fraternity. We had 3 black people out of 70 guys, a few mexicans thrown in there. This is coming from a very white state in the Midwest. But no, a white person could not go into an all black fraternity and be accepted, it is in their code, I have spoken to them about the fact-several times. There were several times I was recruiting a black person to join our fraternity and a black fraternity on campus would call me and tell me to not pursue him, he was "their ground to indoctrinate first," I swear those were the words I was told on multiple occasions. If you want to know more about me, I lived in the same house as Johnny Carson did when he was in our fraternity.


Amazing, I am in my mid 50's, first wife was half Mexican thrown in. I have my serious doubts that you have spoken to 10 black people in your life. Your fraternity doesn't interest me, I spent seven years in the military, unless you spent seven years in college, probably not even close to the same experienced. You have once again exposed your racist attitude with the "few mexicans thrown in" comment, my children are 1/4 mexican, you sir are a racist


i spent 6 years in college and have a masters and have spoken to and have worked with hundreds of black people. I said that there were a few mexicans thrown in to show that our fraternity was not racist like all black fraternity's. I don't know who was 1/4, 1/8, or 1/16 mexican or indian or israelites or sufi's because it doesn't matter. We are all 1/something black so what does it matter? Noone was from mexico, noone was from africa, they are all americans, it doesn't matter their skin color, yet all black fraternity's care about skin color above all else-or esle they wouldn't be all black.

And wow your kids are 1/4 mexican, great, who cares? I am 1/2 swedish and 1/2 german but does anyone call me either? No. I am white.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sigh.

BlackLivesMatter is an organization/movement calling attention to and fighting racism, profiling, and filtering against blacks by police that results in brutality, violence, or death. It addresses a specific and very real issue in this country.

In this context, AllLivesMatter is what exactly?

Vacuous.


When there is a white or mexican killed by police where do #BlackLivesMatter stand? In the corner like a black wallflower, because they are racist. They only care about Black Lives, it is in the text and in their name for MLK's sake.


Where is all WHITELIVEAMATTERS, or ALL MEXICAN LIVES MATTER, they don't exist because no one has felt the need to form them yet, seriously, are you that much of a racist?



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: BubbaJoe

I am not a racist, I am pointing out how ridiculous blacks have gotten. Have you ever researched anything in your life? Whites are shot by police more than blacks, there are more whites in jail than blacks, there are more whites on welfare than blacks,


You do realize that there are more than three times as many of us white people as there are black people? Its difficult to get good data, but the most conservative estimate is that black people are about 3x as likely to be killed in an encounter with the police as white people. Blacks are also far more likely to be arrested for offenses that white people commit with the same frequency, more likely to be convicted and receive on average something like 20% longer jail/prison sentences than white people convicted of the same crime.


I am saying that blacks think they should have better rights than whites and yet they have the same rights. There is no discrimmination, it is only percieved by those who hold racist thoughts within their own mind who percieve acts of injustice as racist.


I don't really feel like wasting my time educating you but for a jumping off point, should you wish to get yourself a clue, let me refer you to a post of mine from another thread about the same damn thing, here.
edit on 2015-8-15 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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I dont feel like wasting my time educating you but

Does that mean with all your "data" that racism against white people doesnt exist or discredit the OP source

NOPE

keep up with the long winded diatribe, you still didnt disprove a damn thing



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Sigh.

BlackLivesMatter is an organization/movement calling attention to and fighting racism, profiling, and filtering against blacks by police that results in brutality, violence, or death. It addresses a specific and very real issue in this country.

In this context, AllLivesMatter is what exactly?

Vacuous.




When there is a white or mexican killed by police where do #BlackLivesMatter stand? In the corner like a black wallflower, because they are racist. They only care about Black Lives, it is in the text and in their name for MLK's sake.


Where is all WHITELIVEAMATTERS, or ALL MEXICAN LIVES MATTER, they don't exist because no one has felt the need to form them yet, seriously, are you that much of a racist?


because no one else wants to form a racist movement Im guessing

They probably feel that ALL lives matter and can see how racist #blacklivesmatter actually comes across

Thats like saying "why dont more people shoot themselves in the foot!" well probably because they arent that damn stupid
edit on 15-8-2015 by Simmderdown because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
I am reading this thread, and it is p'n me off. My family consists of white folks in this country since 1621, so we have been here for a while, and I have written evidence that some of mine have owned some of yours in the past. And I am sorry, this was a sad part of of North American History.

But for the rest of you idiots to deny that systematic racism has existed since the end of the civil war is assinine. Jim Crow and all, and y'all are going to deny that black folks have been held down. Want to pull out my grandfather's purchase agreement from 1955 for his burial plot, that told him he could not sell it to person of color. Or talk to my mother who graduated HS in 1957, small town Missouri, and they still had the colored school.

Or my little town in Missouri who threw a fit in 1972, when they had a section 8 housing situation, and OMG, we had negroes living in my town. This crap has gone on for too long, we all bleed the same color, we are all the same, when are you racist asshats going to realize that.


Why are there all black schools still and not all white? Why is there a TV station that is BET (Black Entertainment Television)? That is continuing racism. Not to mention there are all black fraternity's and sorority's, there are no all white ones, they may discreminate, but that is class to class. The black ones literally won't even accept a white person's application. Racism still lives and more with the coloreds today.


Because people are still idiots and don't understand that things were white only for a long time, the blacks are trying to catch up. I will pretty much bet that I could walk up and pledge a black fraternity and be accepted, maybe not, I am old guy. Your use of the term coloreds tells me all I need to know about you, I lived in the south for several years.


I am in my late 20's and was in a fraternity. We had 3 black people out of 70 guys, a few mexicans thrown in there. This is coming from a very white state in the Midwest. But no, a white person could not go into an all black fraternity and be accepted, it is in their code, I have spoken to them about the fact-several times. There were several times I was recruiting a black person to join our fraternity and a black fraternity on campus would call me and tell me to not pursue him, he was "their ground to indoctrinate first," I swear those were the words I was told on multiple occasions. If you want to know more about me, I lived in the same house as Johnny Carson did when he was in our fraternity.


Amazing, I am in my mid 50's, first wife was half Mexican thrown in. I have my serious doubts that you have spoken to 10 black people in your life. Your fraternity doesn't interest me, I spent seven years in the military, unless you spent seven years in college, probably not even close to the same experienced. You have once again exposed your racist attitude with the "few mexicans thrown in" comment, my children are 1/4 mexican, you sir are a racist


i spent 6 years in college and have a masters and have spoken to and have worked with hundreds of black people. I said that there were a few mexicans thrown in to show that our fraternity was not racist like all black fraternity's. I don't know who was 1/4, 1/8, or 1/16 mexican or indian or israelites or sufi's because it doesn't matter. We are all 1/something black so what does it matter? Noone was from mexico, noone was from africa, they are all americans, it doesn't matter their skin color, yet all black fraternity's care about skin color above all else-or esle they wouldn't be all black.

And wow your kids are 1/4 mexican, great, who cares? I am 1/2 swedish and 1/2 german but does anyone call me either? No. I am white.


The way you speak about the people you have worked with and spoke to, along with the mexicans thrown in, would define you as a racist. I have PHd in African Engineering from the Tuskegee Institute according to the certificate on my wall.



posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: Simmderdown

I didn't need to. English is my first language, it was perfectly clear the point he was trying to make.




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