"This Privately Owned Business is a Muslim Free Etablishment"

originally posted by: EA006

originally posted by: nullafides

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: nullafides
Then a forum is not your ideal place.
You'll be wanting a blog.

In the years I've come here...I have never once cared what you think.

Not once.

Less than one year?

*wink*

a reply to: mOjOm

I am not trying to argue anything at all.

I am not looking to be right. Or to prove you as being wrong.

originally posted by: babybunnies
In NAZI Germany, they used to say "No Jews Allowed" and many people thought it was perfectly reasonable.

Far Right Christians are slowly being turned into a National Front, and they don't even see it coming.

By the time the Concentration camps are setup for Muslims, it will be way too late.

Wanna know what those "FEMA" camps are really for? I think we've found the answer.

Someone is directing the anti Muslim hatred behind the scenes. When they come to power, everyone will say that they never saw it coming, and never thought it would get this bad. Just like they did in Germany, in 1938.

Pre-Hitler Germany never had an indigenous two party system. So any parallels with NAZI Germany applied to the US would have to be executed by both parties, because the US has always (except for maybe 29 years) had a two party system. Either both parties will be saying the same thing or each party will be dovetailing with the issues of the other. Which is kind of what we have, Both parties want bigger government, each party lets the other grow its side so that in return it can grow it own side.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: mOjOm

I am not trying to argue anything at all.

I am not looking to be right. Or to prove you as being wrong.

Ok, but this is sorta a place for debate where people discuss topics and debate different sides of the issues and stuff. By argue I don't mean fight either, I mean debate opposing sides.

But if you just want to discuss it that's cool. What exactly are you wanting to discuss??

a reply to: nullafides

Been discussed already
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a reply to: vonclod

Same sheep, different state. This one's in Oklahoma. Apparently this is a new fad.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: vonclod

Same sheep, different state. This one's in Oklahoma. Apparently this is a new fad.

While inclined to just agree with you and go forward, ignorance has to be denied from every angle. One of my favorite comedians, Ron White, said, You can't fix Stupid.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: Swills

No...I'm stating my opinion. I've not once said you were wrong.

I often just state my opinion. Then I shut up.

You want to control the conversation.

a reply to: BubbaJoe

Absolutely. I love Ron White too, he has great delivery.

So, here's the summation of my point on this thread...

I could care less if someone believes someone else is wrong, and refuses to make money off of them.

What I do care about, is the fact that we ridiculously have laws that put one parties beliefs above anothers.

I actually believe that commercialism and general business will act as evolution. Hence, the reason why I said I felt the shop / gun range owner was an idiot for turning away good money.

But I also support their individual right to be stupid.

a reply to: nullafides

What I do care about, is the fact that we ridiculously have laws that put one parties beliefs above anothers.

Actually, the point of the law is to avoid that sort of thing.

a reply to: Annee

Nope. Not one bit. I am curious as to the thoughts and beliefs of others.

Sometimes it's good for a laugh. Sometimes it's good for a tear.

It is what it is.

What I will not do, is wear the burden of group think.

a reply to: Phage

F A N T A S T I C

I think it's a ridiculous law.

a reply to: nullafides

What I do care about, is the fact that we ridiculously have laws that put one parties beliefs above anothers.

One party believes in the Constitution and the other doesn't?

a reply to: Kali74

Oh my bad, yes same kind of deal..just dumb.

a reply to: nullafides

Nobody is being put above anyone else. The same right to do business freely is the same right given to everyone. The gun owner has that very same right too when he goes to do business somewhere.

So nobody is getting anything special here. Everyone is just getting the same thing.

If you flipped it, it would be the same. A Muslim owner who tries to deny "Gun Owners" or whatever would also be acting illegally in doing so.

You see the difference. Nobody is being allowed anything more or less. Everyone is being treated the same.

a reply to: nullafides

I think it's a ridiculous law.

So, you think it's ok for the beliefs of one group to trump those of another? It's a stupid law that is meant to prevent that? But wait... didn't you say this?

What I do care about, is the fact that we ridiculously have laws that put one parties beliefs above anothers.

What law puts the beliefs of one party above that of others? Who is allowed to discriminate?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: nullafides

What I do care about, is the fact that we ridiculously have laws that put one parties beliefs above anothers.

One party believes in the Constitution and the other doesn't?

Maybe. But my beliefs don't deserve to eclipse yours, nor yours mine.

a reply to: Phage

You are putting a rather large amount of effort into proving my opinion is wrong. Or that it is illogical.


Opinion is neither wrong nor wrong, or logical or illogical.

It simply is.


I do not feel the need to "win" here. Therefore, I do not feel the need to be right. Or to be logical. If you agree, awesome. If not, c'est la vie.

a reply to: nullafides

No beliefs trump any other belief. Neither side, regardless of their belief means anything in this case. The law is what is being enforced here.

The law says that everyone has the right to enjoy the services of businesses the same as anyone else. It's equal in other words.

In this case it's the Gun Owner who's wanting to have the special right to deny service to certain people. That is against the law in the way he's doing it.

It's not that the Muslims are being given something over the gun owner. The gun owner want's something special and the law is saying No. The same as it would say No to the Muslim for wanting the same thing.