Scientists Say Climate Change Has Reached the ‘Point of No Return’

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Do we know enough to reproduce what is observed?

What do you mean? Reproduce an observed increase in temperatures?
That's what's happening.

No, it's not.

And I mean computer models filled with all the variables we think we know. They can't reproduce the past, and when they are modified to replicate the past, they cannot reproduce the present. We may know some, but we don't know enough.

So now we can all stop arguing over this and just get ready for all the bad stuff that is going to happen, right?

Because, you know, because everything was just fine before. No droughts, flooding, really bad hurricanes, tornado outbreaks, snow in places that do not get snow normally, etc, etc.

So when does it all start?

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
Well it's a good thing solar is set to be the main source of energy for our species by mid century. Those trees are also more plentiful now than a century ago in countries like the US, thanks to conservation efforts.

hmmm, "all we have to do, is make sure we keep talking" -- Stephen Hawking

PS I'm going vegan in 9 weeks for my 33rd bday, totally selfish, don't want the heart attack and cancer.

Problem is, we don't have till mid-century.

a reply to: beezzer

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
So now we can all stop arguing over this and just get ready for all the bad stuff that is going to happen, right?

Because, you know, because everything was just fine before. No droughts, flooding, really bad hurricanes, tornado outbreaks, snow in places that do not get snow normally, etc, etc.

So when does it all start?

I wish I could give this more than one star.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Well it's a good thing we're searching for that Earth 2.0 and looking into developing a means of getting there. LOL, so many options, so little room for doom porn.

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
So now we can all stop arguing over this and just get ready for all the bad stuff that is going to happen, right?

Because, you know, because everything was just fine before. No droughts, flooding, really bad hurricanes, tornado outbreaks, snow in places that do not get snow normally, etc, etc.

So when does it all start?

It's already started but I'll predict here that we have three years tops before only simple idiots can deny global warming any longer. Before common sense rather than scientists need spelling it out. You say all these "bad stuff" events have happened before and you're correct, but the point you're overlooking is that never has so much happened in so very little time. Take for example in my neck of the woods up here in northern Wisconsin, we've rarely ever had hail storms and I mean with the size like golf balls. We had a major storm last September with golf ball size hail and the roof damage companies moved right in, never happened before, and already this summer we just had a hail storm with tennis ball size hail (even made the national news with the photographs) and it looked like it snowed outside and took 20 minutes to melt. Within days every one in town has been getting calls from hail damage companies as far away as Chicago. I even had one of their salesman show up at my door at 8:15 pm. Rare events have become commonplace whether you want to believe it or not.

Russia, the biggest country in the world, is estimated to be 49% covered in trees, then there is south America, especially the Amazon basin, also we have the large swathes of forest in Asia, small and large woods and hedge rows throughout Europe and America, just why do those people keep bleating about "the end of the world" it wont end, we might, it wont.

originally posted by: Rezlooper
You say all these "bad stuff" events have happened before and you're correct, but the point you're overlooking is that never has so much happened in so very little time.

And you know this, how?