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Chicago Public Schools Announces Hundreds Of Teacher Layoffs, Pending And Pension Cuts

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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

Cool beez, true to form.

Are you denying that private schools don't do better because they get more money?
Maybe it is just better kids that go to them /shrug.

Or are you going to talk about spiders again that have zero to do with anything


It has everything to do with it.

13,041 is spent every year per student in public school.
8,549 is spent every year per student in private school.
8,001 is spent every year per student in charter school.

All are averaged www.edreform.com...


But by all means, lets spend more!




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Reallyfolks

Charter schools are not bound by the same state laws and testing requirements as public schools. I say if charter schools can do a better job let them try. The only catch is make sure they have to meet the same requirements as existing public schools. In addition, they can't be selective on what type of student they can accept. They should also have to accept the hoodlums, the low achievers, and the I don't care students. If they disrupt their classrooms, tough, work around it because if they expel a kid they'll lose funding for their charter school. Yep folks, every kid in the public school system has a price on their head.

If Detroit is any example, most new charter schools close after a year. Maybe the grass always looks greener on the other side? If you want public schools to work, get the Federal and state control out of these schools and start letting teachers teach. Schools should be managed locally and the bar should be raised and kept in place without political influence and pressure for social promotions. Teachers across this country have been complaining about the apathetic climate among students. Years of social promotion and pressure to improve graduation rates has caused this. Politicians and school administrators care only about statistics and they don't address and ignore the root cause.


Blaming teacher's is an easy scape goat. ...I'm glad I'm retired.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

100% agree, probably the person was lobbied for by Charter School corporations.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

Charter Schools aren't doing better in any public school district anywhere in the country.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: WeRpeons

Charter Schools aren't doing better in any public school district anywhere in the country.


Doesn't matter.

It's still a big government failure.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Or a corporate corruption problem.

So tell me, with the middle class disappearing and unable to afford private school for their kids... how do we educate American children now?



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Yup, get the classes smaller and get them better teachers.

That is going to cost money.

And I have seen different numbers for everything you listed.

Seems the average is the same 10k per kid both private and public.
ETA:
Also you posted the tuition of the private and charters, does that show how much they spend on each kid? Or is that what they charge to cover it?



PRIVATE SCHOOL STUDENT-TEACHER RATIO: 10.7:1

CATHOLIC SCHOOL STUDENT-TEACHER RATIO: 14.1:1

Smaller class sizes, you think we accomplish that for free?
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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: xuenchen

Or a corporate corruption problem.

So tell me, with the middle class disappearing and unable to afford private school for their kids... how do we educate American children now?


Corporate corruption is a product of big government failure.

Successful government is the answer.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Cool. Now about educating our kids?



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

Yup, get the classes smaller and get them better teachers.

That is going to cost money.

And I have seen different numbers for everything you listed.

Seems the average is the same 10k per kid both private and public.



So just raise taxes and throw money at the problem.

(see any more spiders?)



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Did an edit as well.

Not throw money at it, use the money to emulate what makes the private schools work so well.

See any spiders we need to go to war with?

We can cut military spending before we raise taxes.
I would rather have that.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: xuenchen

Cool. Now about educating our kids?


Successful government will do the trick.

Are there any examples?





posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I don't care about the debt. I think it is overrated. Debt is just another word that has imprisoned and ruined many lives in the United States. Here is another one.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

The problem with the left is this;

If we are on a boat that leaks, rational people will find a way to plug the hole and stop the leak.

Leftists will solve the problem by buying more buckets.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

The private schools seem to be doing ok without much, if any, government tax money.

How would extra money from military cutbacks help?

Is there enough to fuel the corruption in big government failures?




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: xuenchen

I don't care about the debt. I think it is overrated. Debt is just another word that has imprisoned and ruined many lives in the United States. Here is another one.


Debt is the problem.

Just ask all the failed governments.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Sremmos80

The problem with the left is this;

If we are on a boat that leaks, rational people will find a way to plug the hole and stop the leak.

Leftists will solve the problem by buying more buckets.


And they would even buy buckets with holes.

All made to government specs of course.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Ignore the debt and educate the children. Start over. Failures are just challenges. Ask Trump, four times he failed. Now he might be the President.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: xuenchen

Ignore the debt and educate the children. Start over. Failures are just challenges. Ask Trump, four times he failed. Now he might be the President.


Governments *HAVE* been ignoring debt and educating children haven't they.

It's almost like the failures coincide with the debt.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Sremmos80

The problem with the left is this;

If we are on a boat that leaks, rational people will find a way to plug the hole and stop the leak.

Leftists will solve the problem by buying more buckets.


And the right wingers will just drown everybody

Or better demand that those weak, sick, and infirm get thrown overboard



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