The Bilderbergers are poised to win with a mandate.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: MotherMayEye

If that was the case the media would have been pushing him into the spot light since he said he was going to run.

The outright ignoring of his campaign is proof enough to be that he's no establishment shill.

~Tenth

Hm...perhaps we read different media sources? For example the DailyMail, which has a large conservative readership -- he gets nearly every political headline there.

I see Trump's name in the headlines more than anyone else's, to be honest.


[EDIT: I am trying to find a breakdown of the media coverage for the candidates, so far no luck. It may be too early for those kinds of studies. Sorry to have to give you an anecdotal reply.]

[EDIT 2: Sorry, I thought you were referring to Trump in portion I quoted, not Bernie.]

a reply to: MotherMayEye

That's because Trump is who they want to win. Bernie has only received major coverage starting the last two weeks. Before that, no major news channel was touching him. Sure there were op eds in in a select few publications, but nothing the likes of Hillary or the GOP clan.

It's quite reminiscent of Reagan's early campaign IMO, before he actually had to start talking policy.

Donald is going to continue to build momentum until he's forced to talk policy and then he won't have anything, OR he'll have hired enough writers and aides to help him write some semblance of a platform.

~Tenth

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: MotherMayEye

That's because Trump is who they want to win. Bernie has only received major coverage starting the last two weeks. Before that, no major news channel was touching him. Sure there were op eds in in a select few publications, but nothing the likes of Hillary or the GOP clan.

It's quite reminiscent of Reagan's early campaign IMO, before he actually had to start talking policy.

Donald is going to continue to build momentum until he's forced to talk policy and then he won't have anything, OR he'll have hired enough writers and aides to help him write some semblance of a platform.

~Tenth

That's one of the things Bernie has going for him. As of now, he's the only other 'contender' for democrats. With Hillary's ongoing 'trickling out' email scandal in the headlines daily, Bernie pretty much just has to sit back and wait for Hillary's campaign to self-destruct.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Donald is going to continue to build momentum until he's forced to talk policy and then he won't have anything, OR he'll have hired enough writers and aides to help him write some semblance of a platform.

~Tenth

Trump supporters are solidified because he keeps them busy 'supporting' him non-stop with his mildly vague crass statements that forces them to explain what "he really meant," all the time.

Like when he said that black people were "WORSE under Obama," rather than "WORSE OFF under Obama." Or the Megyn Kelly comment -- did he mean "nose" or was he referring to her period?

I think he could never come up with any reasonable plans or policies -- and his supporters will stay locked in.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think he could never come up with any reasonable plans or policies -- and his supporters will stay locked in.

I don't think he will come up with anything concrete either. But he might hire policy advisers who will.

Look at what he said in Iowa to solve immigration, just deport 11 million people.

That's not a solution, it's a talking point.

~Tenth

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I think he could never come up with any reasonable plans or policies -- and his supporters will stay locked in.

I don't think he will come up with anything concrete either. But he might hire policy advisers who will.

Look at what he said in Iowa to solve immigration, just deport 11 million people.

That's not a solution, it's a talking point.

~Tenth

So far he has ignored his advisors and Roger Stone left his campaign in quite the peculiar way, eh? I find the fact that their private little feud made its way to the press very, very strange. As if they wouldn't discuss how to announce his departure to the media.

"An extraordinary account of a private conversation between the two men also emerged on political website POLITICO. Stone told friends on Saturday that Trump is 'losing his grip on reality,' claims the site . And that 'he has these yes-men around him. And now he's living in a parallel world."


Let's review a portion:

Stone: Donald, stop with the Megyn Kelly sh*t. It's f**king crazy. It's killing us.
Trump: What do you mean? I won the debate. People loved it.
Stone: You didn't win the debate.
Trump: Yes I did. Look at the polling. Look at Drudge.
Stone: The Drudge Report poll isn't a scientific poll. You won't give me the money to pay for a scientific poll. And you're off-message.
Trump: There are other polls.
Stone: Those are bullsh*t polls, Donald. They're not scientific polls. We need to run a professional campaign and talk about what people really care about.
Trump: We're winning.

My BS alarms sounded when I read about Stone's departure. But, I am ok if it's just me that finds this all very scripted-feeling. I am not backing any democrats nor republicans, so I have accepted I belong to a very tiny minority.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
I don't think he will come up with anything concrete either. But he might hire policy advisers who will.

Look at what he said in Iowa to solve immigration, just deport 11 million people.

That's not a solution, it's a talking point.

~Tenth

I meant to say I very much agree with you, too. No one can expect anything but 'talking points' from Trump.

I think Stone's departure letter confirms that....and honestly everything I've said about Trump's campaign being a 'dirty trick.'

Here's more of Stone's 'private' letter to Trump that somehow made it's way to the internet:

Stone's letter to Trump

Keep this in mind about Roger Stone, too:

After Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, Stone worked for the administration in the Office of Economic Opportunity. After Nixon resigned, Stone went to work for Bob Dole, but he was fired after columnist Jack Anderson publicly identified Stone as a Nixon dirty trickster.

Roger Stone wiki bio

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Look at what he said in Iowa to solve immigration, just deport 11 million people.

That's not a solution, it's a talking point.

~Tenth

ALSO (sorry to keep adding)....isn't it interesting that Trump has already flip-flopped on his immigration policy? This was his 'immigration policy' three weeks ago:

Trump's Merit System Path to Citizenship

During Friday's interview, Trump said the U.S. should take a two-step approach to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the country.

"Well, the first thing we do is take the bad ones — of which there are, unfortunately, quite a few," said Trump, who owns three New Jersey golf courses and once owned three Atlantic City casinos. "We take the bad ones and get 'em the hell out. We get 'em out."

But he said the country should take a different approach with "the other ones" — i.e., undocumented immigrants who have "done a good job" since arriving in the U.S.

"I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

I also wonder if people have considered the role of Fabian Socialism in U.S. politics. After all, Fabian Socialists use methods of infiltration to accomplish their objectives.

My feeling is that Sanders, Clinton, Trump, the Bushes, all of them are Fabian Socialists who can pretend to be republicans, democrats, marxists, capitalists....whatever they need to pretend to be to accomplish the objectives of Fabian Socialism. My feeling is based, in part, on the fact that no candidate ever seems to actually be they person the campaigned as.

A fundamental principle of Fabianism is to collect a Brain Trust as an elite class to plan and direct all of society. Shaw pointed it out succinctly:

The Fabian Society succeeded because it addressed itself to its own class in order that it might set about doing the necessary brain work of planning Socialist organization for all classes, meanwhile accepting, instead of trying to supersede, the existing political organizations which it intended to permeate with the Socialist conception of human society.

Fabian Socialism

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I doubt the Bilderbergers want Bernie Sanders as president.

A progressive antiwar tax the rich guy IS NOT the candidate of the Bilderbergers I assure you


Most of the GOP clowns would be acceptable and of course Hillary is probably their choice.

Remember she and Obama had that secret get together in 1988 when the Bilgerberger annual meeting was in Virginia.


They might have promised Hillary that this is her year

Or they promised her she and Bush can fight it out

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I doubt the Bilderbergers want Bernie Sanders as president.

A progressive antiwar tax the rich guy IS NOT the candidate of the Bilderbergers I assure you


Most of the GOP clowns would be acceptable and of course Hillary is probably their choice.

Remember she and Obama had that secret get together in 1988 when the Bilgerberger annual meeting was in Virginia.


They might have promised Hillary that this is her year

Or they promised her she and Bush can fight it out

See? This is the trite crap you can find on every 'progressive' website. I am looking for deeper insight. I got this much in 1988 when I graduated high school.

Socialism does, in fact, serve the powerful, influential and the wealthy. The Fabian Society is a testament to that fact.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I doubt the Bilderbergers want Bernie Sanders as president.

A progressive antiwar tax the rich guy IS NOT the candidate of the Bilderbergers I assure you


Most of the GOP clowns would be acceptable and of course Hillary is probably their choice.

Remember she and Obama had that secret get together in 1988 when the Bilgerberger annual meeting was in Virginia.


They might have promised Hillary that this is her year

Or they promised her she and Bush can fight it out

Seldom have I encountered any other minds capable of seeing beyond what's fed to the cattle, here. I am disappointed that there are so few able to- or old enough to dig in beyond what the progressives and neocons put out as 'radical ideas.'

Bleh.

Nothing new here. Moving on.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye


Seldom have I encountered any other minds capable of seeing beyond what's fed to the cattle, here. I am disappointed that there are so few able to- or old enough to dig in beyond what the progressives and neocons put out as 'radical ideas.'

Bleh.

Nothing new here. Moving on.

Moving on, HOWEVER, I will pull this thread back up when I am correct, in November 2016.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

If Sanders is involved with the Bilderberg Group, it would be the biggest public 180 in Political History, because everything the Bilderberg Group stands for (and their long list of corrupt members), Sanders rails on, and has for 25 years. I do not doubt the owners of the planet have a long term agenda, but this would really be stretching it, in my opinion. Just because 2 people are Polish, and the country just happened to be divided, with Communist/Socialist elements, doesn't mean that Sanders is a Bilderberg plant... Especially since they already have their candidate in Hillary Clinton.

Thanks for the info on Jozef, I will certainly be reading more on him.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I still think Bernie is The Chosen One: Huge Spending Plan, Huge Taxes, Huge Federal Government with Huge Power.

Why wouldn't he be The Chosen One?

When Bernie wins, the voters will totally believe they beat the Establishment. But they are being taken in.

Everything is smoke & mirrors meant to make it all seem plausible when the system is rigged for Bernie.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: MotherMayEye

No.

Bernie opposes everything this 'group' allegedly 'stands for'.

I think the whole Bilderberger conspiracy theory is just another Alex Jones scam.

No the Bilderberg meetings are real. There is video taped evidence of officials meeting privately in the same hotel under protection from high end civilian security every year.



Bill Clinton admits to going to the Bilderberg meetings.



Obviously these Bilderberg meetings exist.



Rick Perry also was invited to the bilderberg meetings. He says the meetings exist.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I would be happy as hell if it came down to a Bernie VS Trump election.

I am just trying to get a libertarian into office. As much as I cant stand Sanders for his "lets bankrupt everything" ideals, at least he is against free trade, so the trade off JUST MIGHT pay for everything he wants to hand out. We still get immigration reform and that is really one of the most important issues for me.

Also, it seems as though he is anti-establishment and he cant be that bad if thats the case. Even if its just to tear it all down.

I am much more in favor of Trump, but if Bernie wins I can live with that. They agree on enough and I would be happy to watch the bilderbergers and globalists squirm, FOR ONCE.

originally posted by: tadaman
I am much more in favor of Trump, but if Bernie wins I can live with that. They agree on enough and I would be happy to watch the bilderbergers and globalists squirm, FOR ONCE.

Why on earth would they squirm if Bernie wins? He has, by far, the biggest spending plan, so our corrupt Congress can divert trillions into the pockets of the global elite. He also has the highest tax plan, so the power and reach of the federal government will be unprecedented.

Squirm?

lol. Not hardly.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: NewzNose

Ha! Well none of us rub elbows with The Bilderberg Group. But Hillary and Obama attended their annual meeting in 2008.

They are the Puppetmasters -- please do check them out, and the Trilateral Commission.

In a nutshell: "Founded in 1954, Bilderberg is an annual conference designed to foster dialogue between Europe and North America. Every year, between 120-150 political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media are invited to take part in the conference."

Basically, they get together annually to decide the course of the global economy. For example, they were behind the oil crisis in the 1970s.

All of our political leaders are beholden to The Bilderberg Group. Both parties.

If the Bilderbergers are as you hint at, and actually are essentially a group of Socialists, running a kind of global pinko conspiracy...why do so many conservative leaders and party members, those at the top of the world's rich list, royalty, bankers and many other very UNsocialist people regularly attend their annual, secret meetings?

I would have thought any secretive group running a campaign to create a kind of world socialist order...would have checked the invite list.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Yes, the closed, secretive, undemocratic Bilderberg meetings are very real.

They, unlike most topics on ATS are an actual conspiracy (by virtue of their secrecy) that is neither fantasy or a scam.

They are also a travesty, and all who attend them who hold positions in public office, do so while being totally unaccountable to the people who elected them, and should be barred from any public office immediately.

What these meetings are is essentially a tyranny. World agendas are planned and orchestrated with absolutely no accountability to the public. This is not democracy, it's a pre-planned, coordinated and agreed upon tyranny.