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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: beezzer
I've seen a lot of passionate posts from the pro-choicers. Passion for women's rights.
I know the pro-lifers say that Margaret Sanger wanted to kill all black people, but that's not the Margaret Sanger I have been reading about. The Margaret Sanger I know was very passionate about freeing women from the burden of having child after child after child. She saw so many women slowly dying from having 6 or 8 or 10 or more children, living in poverty, sometimes alone. She saw those women who felt their only choices were to keep popping out kids and ruin their health, or take another chink out of their humanity by ending their sexuality altogether, to keep from getting pregnant yet again. She wanted them to be free to be sexual beings, just like the men, without having to live with the fear of pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy. She was first and foremost, a proponent of education and contraception. She looked at abortion as a viable, but last resort. And she was concerned for ANY woman in poverty, not just black women.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Sure whatever. Deny the fact that you were creating a PC argument while simultaneously complaining about it. If you don't want to be called a conservative because you don't want to make this a political argument, fine, but know this, YOU started it when you brought up PC in your op.
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: beezzer
I've seen a lot of passionate posts from the pro-choicers. Passion for women's rights.
I know the pro-lifers say that Margaret Sanger wanted to kill all black people, but that's not the Margaret Sanger I have been reading about. The Margaret Sanger I know was very passionate about freeing women from the burden of having child after child after child. She saw so many women slowly dying from having 6 or 8 or 10 or more children, living in poverty, sometimes alone. She saw those women who felt their only choices were to keep popping out kids and ruin their health, or take another chink out of their humanity by ending their sexuality altogether, to keep from getting pregnant yet again. She wanted them to be free to be sexual beings, just like the men, without having to live with the fear of pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy. She was first and foremost, a proponent of education and contraception. She looked at abortion as a viable, but last resort. And she was concerned for ANY woman in poverty, not just black women.
And that is the truth as you perceive it.
originally posted by: theMediator
We also say eggs instead of unborn chicken matter.
Collateral damage, insurgents, rebels, Palestine...those are words with moral dilemma.
I don't see no dilemma with other people's abortion because it isn't my life and not my damn body.
originally posted by: beezzer
I wonder why those that are for abortion are countering this thread?
It's just terminology, right?
We are all free to call it what it is, right?
You can say, "clump of cells".
We can say, "Baby killer".
The truth is with the perception of the act.
You all, who want this, look at it with dispassion.
Our perception of the act is something entirely different.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
And we love you too, Charlie. We won't all agree on everything all time, and that's okay. It's what makes the world interesting.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: beezzer
I've seen a lot of passionate posts from the pro-choicers. Passion for women's rights.
I know the pro-lifers say that Margaret Sanger wanted to kill all black people, but that's not the Margaret Sanger I have been reading about. The Margaret Sanger I know was very passionate about freeing women from the burden of having child after child after child. She saw so many women slowly dying from having 6 or 8 or 10 or more children, living in poverty, sometimes alone. She saw those women who felt their only choices were to keep popping out kids and ruin their health, or take another chink out of their humanity by ending their sexuality altogether, to keep from getting pregnant yet again. She wanted them to be free to be sexual beings, just like the men, without having to live with the fear of pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy. She was first and foremost, a proponent of education and contraception. She looked at abortion as a viable, but last resort. And she was concerned for ANY woman in poverty, not just black women.
originally posted by: theMediator
We also say eggs instead of unborn chicken matter.
Collateral damage, insurgents, rebels, Palestine...those are words with moral dilemma.
I don't see no dilemma with other people's abortion because it isn't my life and not my damn body.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Your problem is with people speaking clinically about these terms? That's like getting mad because a scientist called a dog a canine.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: beezzer
I've seen a lot of passionate posts from the pro-choicers. Passion for women's rights.
I know the pro-lifers say that Margaret Sanger wanted to kill all black people, but that's not the Margaret Sanger I have been reading about. The Margaret Sanger I know was very passionate about freeing women from the burden of having child after child after child. She saw so many women slowly dying from having 6 or 8 or 10 or more children, living in poverty, sometimes alone. She saw those women who felt their only choices were to keep popping out kids and ruin their health, or take another chink out of their humanity by ending their sexuality altogether, to keep from getting pregnant yet again. She wanted them to be free to be sexual beings, just like the men, without having to live with the fear of pregnancy after pregnancy after pregnancy. She was first and foremost, a proponent of education and contraception. She looked at abortion as a viable, but last resort. And she was concerned for ANY woman in poverty, not just black women.
And that is the truth as you perceive it.
That women have the right to protect their own health? Yep.