Nature Lovers Outraged: Bear and Cubs That Killed Hiker to Be Put Down

a reply to: boymonkey74

My brother took down one at 13 when we were hunting for deer with a 308 in Idaho.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Some lose their fear of humans. Some say that bears develop a taste for them and actively stalk them. Then again, they defend their territory. If you don't want hurt, stay out of it.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: CynConcepts

Also, we'd capture the humans, prosecute them, put the children into foster care with therapy and attempt to rehabilitate them and give them a life.

Not hunt them down and butcher them.

According to the source article this is what the park is basically doing with the bears. They are awaiting DNA testing to confirm whether this bear is the man eater. If determined to be the bear, she will be sentenced to be euthanized. Her cubs may not be euthanized if they can find an alternate solution aka foster care.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Seeing as people here think humans are animal crack, I doubt they have a clue. They don't even know most sharks think we taste like crap. Too many jaws sequels I guess...

a reply to: MOMof3

Are they endangered or protected? are there enough of them I don't know btw so only asking .

a reply to: CynConcepts

Did anyone watch this and want one as a kid?.



Clint Howard...Ron's brother lol.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Sometimes you do everything right and spook animals, was it bad luck probably... bear probably won't go hunting humans... But as someone that likes to bc hike, I'd prefer they error on the side of caution, and not wait for more deaths before they take steps.

and i like to camp so please error on the side of caution..

a reply to: boymonkey74

I can't give the answer you are fishing for. Our family does not go into the wilderness unless we can take weapons. The rest is luck.

Edit: If you are asking if you can kill an endangered species in self defense, yes. You can google but it is in some act from 1970's.

I'm an avid outdoorsman, hunter and I've studied wildlife management through various orgs as well as in college.

At heart, I'm with the bears. Simply looking at this through natural eyes, there's no discrimination, if you're in that animals habitat your rightfully on it's menu. There's far too many of us, obviously. This is not disputed amongst wildlife experts. It is a fact that the increase in attacks on humans by natural predators is due to human expansion an overpopulation. The rise in shark attacks are a pretty good example. I've got a college buddy who works for NOAA that goes on about this all the time.

On the flip side, the reason the officials must take the animals down, is the simple fact that bears are very habitual eaters, especially some being cubs, these bears would develop a taste for humans and would definitely put other live at risk. Also any other non participating bears observing an attack on humans would adopt these actions as well, a meme learned amongst the species. Again, the same thing that is happening with many shark species, we're slowly being added to the menu.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: boymonkey74

Some lose their fear of humans. Some say that bears develop a taste for them and actively stalk them. Then again, they defend their territory. If you don't want hurt, stay out of it.

I say no its my territory, if you dont want to get shot dont eat my friends.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

It goes to show there is no cure for stupidity.

it's sad for the families but jeez-common sense goes a long way. The animals in question did nothing wrong and they should not have to die because we don't respect the animals and their environment.

The same thing happens with sharks- we intrude on their environment and we wonder why we get attacked-So what's our response? we kill them!

a reply to: alienjuggalo

Every response I could think of to get my point across broke the rules set forth by ATS so not responding here.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Bloodydagger

I hate when crap like this happens. There's a tribe in africa where if you get eaten by a tiger, they shrug, they don't seek revenge, they accept that well, it's what tigers do.

I didn't know Africa had Tigers... I knew about lions, but I've never heard of any tribes in Africa that live among them, not caring if one of their own is killed by them

originally posted by: alienjuggalo

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: boymonkey74

Some lose their fear of humans. Some say that bears develop a taste for them and actively stalk them. Then again, they defend their territory. If you don't want hurt, stay out of it.

I say no its my territory, if you dont want to get shot dont eat my friends.

This is a very ignorant, asinine, narrow minded and shortsighted view.

No wonder people get attacked and killed in the wild. They have your uneducated point of view.

Yeah I got the geography wrong on the tigers, the rest is right

a reply to: boymonkey74

No, I was hooked on GIzzly Adams tv show and wanted one as a kid. my own experience with bears was in Idaho too. I came up to a cliff edge and on the hillside across from me I watched a couple of baby cubs playing and tumbling like a couple of puppies! Had no clue where mama was. Even though I had my husband's 308 on me, I boogied back to camp and didn't stick around! My husband and I had to take turns scouting since we had a baby back then. We decided to break camp and move on away from that camp spot. No sense in taking any chances.

Edit correction: not a 308 but had a 30-06! Lol. I was thinking about 308 due to a previous posting.

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: boymonkey74

No, I was hooked on GIzzly Adams tv show and wanted one as a kid.

my own experience with bears was in Idaho too. I came up to a cliff edge and on the hillside across from me I watched a couple of baby cubs playing and tumbling like a couple of puppies! Had no clue where mama was. Even though I had my husband's 308 on me, I boogied back to camp and didn't stick around! My husband and I had to take turns scouting since we had a baby back then. We decided to break camp and move on away from that camp spot. No sense in taking any chances.

And you did what any educated outdoorsmen would do. That was smart.

a reply to: alienjuggalo

What makes it human territory? Humans being human? Where is the animal territory? Humans are part of the food chain, just like everything else.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: alienjuggalo

What makes it human territory? Humans being human? Where is the animal territory? Humans are part of the food chain, just like everything else.

Hes probably one of "those" that fillets fish and cooks in his camp spot. Then wonders why bears and other predators creep up on him and his camp for.

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: alienjuggalo

What makes it human territory? Humans being human? Where is the animal territory? Humans are part of the food chain, just like everything else.

I agree. I dont think we should kill all the bears like most of you seem to think I do. Just the ones that have eaten someone..

Dang