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Bernie Sanders and "top secret" emails are catching up to Hillary Clinton

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posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Jesus TTP...is that what you got out of that?!?

How about your outrage be directed at the electoral system that can't seem to yield a better group of candidates.


Hey, while the media and all the talking heads are focused on the jackasses, Bush is getting bypassed by all the dirt diggers. Nothing wrong with the system.




posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: AlaskanDad

I have not a clue
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Don't worry much , with another 40K stars or so, you might get a taste.



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Jesus TTP...is that what you got out of that?!?

How about your outrage be directed at the electoral system that can't seem to yield a better group of candidates.


Hey, while the media and all the talking heads are focused on the jackasses, Bush is getting bypassed by all the dirt diggers. Nothing wrong with the system.

We have a winner!!!!
someone gets it.



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: theantediluvian

So you'd be fine with large population centers determining every election, then?

Do people living in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago represent the views of everybody in America?

Obviously you missed the point of the electoral college.


They are GAMING th eelectoral college now though,and it needs modification. No more WIn all decisions. THat is th emain problem. you vote fro someoen else and they dont win your vote goes to someone you didnt want to vote for basically.


Pipe down and enjoy your drink. You don't have to post while having a Dos Equis but when you do, please spell check.
edit on 12-8-2015 by notmyrealname because: ...piping down myself.



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
as of 2014, Wyoming had a population of 584,153.... and had 2 senators in congress.....as of 2014, California had a population of 38,802,500....and had 2 senators in congress.....yeah...that's fair representation...
fcw.com...

so in the senate, 584,000 people in Wyoming, represent the amount of senate legislative power as 38.8 million people in California


The job of a senator is to represent state interests. The job of a representative is to represent the interest of citizens. All states stand next to each other equally in one branch of Congress.
edit on 13-8-2015 by Aazadan because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: notmyrealname

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: theantediluvian

So you'd be fine with large population centers determining every election, then?

Do people living in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago represent the views of everybody in America?

Obviously you missed the point of the electoral college.


They are GAMING th eelectoral college now though,and it needs modification. No more WIn all decisions. THat is th emain problem. you vote fro someoen else and they dont win your vote goes to someone you didnt want to vote for basically.


Pipe down and enjoy your drink. You don't have to post while having a Dos Equis but when you do, please spell check.


I should report you for TnC violations of slander but ill let the post stand as a example of how NOT to reply to someone.



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
He kinda looks like the Ron Paul of 2016 (irrelevantly popular). But is starting to smell more like Obama (cult fanatic following not based on reason)


Bernie does have sort of a "cult following" (or grassroots movement), but it's TOTALLY based on reason. It's very reasonable to think that he is concerned about the "people" and will do what he says, because he has MANY years of demonstrating that he does just that. I will agree that Obama's following was cultish, but Bernie's popularity is a different story. He's got experience and we KNOW him from his years in government.

I agree with Mystic, too, that Donald Trump also has a cult following, but the reason people love him is that he is rude, not afraid to insult anyone (even when they have done nothing to deserve it) and should he become president, he would be the wealthiest president we've ever had. Wealth appeals to many on the right. It's the epitome of success.



Whatever Trump is worth, the rest of the candidates simply aren't in his league. The second wealthiest candidate is Carly Fiorina, with a net worth of about $80 million. Hillary Clinton is a distant third, at about $15 million. At the low end of the scale, we have Democrat Bernie Sanders, with a mere $500,000.

The media tends to attach moral value to wealth and poverty. Depending on who you talk to, Trump is an embodiment of the American Dream or a bloviating oligarch. Whatever the reality, a President Donald Trump (startling as the thought may be) would be the wealthiest president in U.S. history.


Source



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad
You're right....I should have added FDR to my list of socialists...in typical despotic behavior he sought to rule-for-life only seeing his bid to reshape America end by his death.
His first new deal was patently unconstitutional....and only through stacking the courts with high minded liberal elite social engineers was he able to pass the second new deal as well as his innumerable other social programs.
Thanks for pointing out my list to be lacking.
-Christosterone



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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Man, ATS used to really hate political parties until Bernie Sanders came along. A burnt out geriatric socialist Jew, great choice way to turn over a new leaf everyone. I mean I can't even look at the front page without seeing 3 topics about this guy. Is it just a small group of rabid fanboys? I see a lot of the people making and hanging out in the same topics.

-whacked out collectivist bull# wealth inequality views
-wants to increase the minimum wage which does absolutely NOTHING and only decreases the worth of others making that now
-wants to repeal tax deductions for companies which PROVIDE JOBS TO CITIZENS
-pro-union shill - making them even more of a problem than they are now
-global warming shill that will probably implement some #ty carbon tax policy, restricting us more

The dude is a legit, actual socialist. I've never called any figure that, even Obama. He is the real deal. Anyways keep it up guys, I enjoy laughing at how hilarious you are for whining about politics then falling hook line and sinker for some upstate northeast clown who will tax us to death and destroy business.
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posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: LiberLegit
Man, ATS used to really hate political parties until Bernie Sanders came along.


I still hate political parties. I think they should be abolished. I fail to see what his religion has to do with anything, though.



I mean I can't even look at the front page without seeing 3 topics about this guy.


Ooh! That's good news! Thanks!



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Wow these guys are really upset that the normal corporate owned politicians have a challenger.

Go Bernie!



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: LiberLegit

Something tells me you're not feeling the Bern.



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Wow these guys are really upset that the normal corporate owned politicians have a challenger.

Go Bernie!


Is this reality, or just your perception? I mean, i know he is getting most of his dough from PACs. Which funnel private donations to his campaign.

I also see he has enormous union support. Which isnt exactly a win in my opinion.


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posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I mean, i know he is getting most of his dough from PACs.


Do you mean Bernie accepts money from PACs?

There are several PACs that have formed and are running ads, but he can't stop that.



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Could it be both my perception and reality?


"A lot of these people are young people, working class people, who understand that both the economics of America today and the politics of America today are rigged in favor of the wealthy and the powerful," Sanders told NBC's Andrea Mitchell in the first interview since a New Hampshire poll showed him with an apparent lead over Hillary Clinton in that key primary state.

Sanders said that his momentum is "not just in polls," but also in his burgeoning crowd sizes. Over 20,000 people attended each of his rallies in Los Angeles and Portland in recent days.

"People are saying 'enough is enough,' and I think we're seeing a lot of support for our campaign as a result," he said.


source

I find it interesting that Sanders is speaking out against the status quo, and more interesting that he is not running a smear campaign.


"I honestly believe the American people are tired of old-fashioned politics where you're supposed to be beating up all your opponents," he said. "We're trying to run a campaign which is not negative, but which talks to the needs of middle class and working families, which creates an economy that works for everybody and not a handful of billionaires."
This quote is also from the above source



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LiberLegit

Something tells me you're not feeling the Bern.


Quite the opposite, I am feeling the Bern and it's pissing me off. lol



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: LiberLegit

While it seems to upset you that an Independent from Vermont is running as a Dem, it should not be surprising. It is quite refreshing to see a candidate that is for the people rather than the usual corporate clowns we have for politicians.



Go Bernie!!!



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

well...if he continues to not screw up...i may be inclined to cast a vote this time around. Been awhile since I felt compelled to vote for a president.



posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I've been paying attention to Sanders for a few years now and I still have my reservations.

But then again I just don't have faith in, nor hold trust for politicians, it is hard for me to believe anything will really change.




posted on Aug, 13 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I mean, i know he is getting most of his dough from PACs. Which funnel private donations to his campaign.


Can you explain this? I really want to know if he's receiving PAC money... Do you have a link or something? I can't find anything on it.




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