Bernie Sanders and "top secret" emails are catching up to Hillary Clinton

a reply to: AlaskanDad

Not to mention the entire ideal of Social Security, police, firehouses and trucks - it's all socialist in construct.

It's funny how people fear socialism, yet don't even realize there are socialist programs that HELP in our country - yet have no quarrel with capitalism.

I only know what has been publicized about Bernnie, and its absent any dissension beyond "he's a commie and wears pink". which isn't dissension. Its opinion.

Like BH says, we have a year to vet this guy. But i still don't hold out hope. He kinda looks like the Ron Paul of 2016 (irrelevantly popular). But is starting to smell more like Obama (cult fanatic following not based on reason)

Time will tell. But i'd rather it be Bernie that Hillary (or Trump). At least, if my vote was today. And I was forced to choose a lesser evil.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: theantediluvian

So you'd be fine with large population centers determining every election, then?

Do people living in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago represent the views of everybody in America?

Obviously you missed the point of the electoral college.

as of 2014, Wyoming had a population of 584,153.... and had 2 senators in congress.....as of 2014, California had a population of 38,802,500....and had 2 senators in congress.....yeah...that's fair representation...
fcw.com...

so in the senate, 584,000 people in Wyoming, represent the amount of senate legislative power as 38.8 million people in California

Good.

Californians have a history of supporting laws that the rest of the country thinks are nuts.

It's fair because every state gets an equal number of votes on issues that affect the entire nation. I sure as hell don't want California's nutball congresspeople having more power than they currently have in the senate and house. If you want change, keep it in your own state. That's the whole point of the system.

a reply to: jimmyx

There's that pesky Constitution again !!

But California has a lot more Reps in the House than Wyoming does right?

a reply to: AlaskanDad

Couldn't happen to a nicer lady (sarc). I have always been a fan of Sen. Sanders and listening to him speak during his campaign has been music to my ears.

Now if the rest of America could snap out of the Fox News induced haze they are in and see Donald for what he is...well, we may just have a chance at putting an honest man in the White House for a change.

a reply to: AlaskanDad

Nothing will happen to her, she is to well connected and knows way to many dark little secrets about other politicians, and powerful people. You can see the smug look in her face, I mean look at the US media when she was giving her testimony about the Bengahzi incident her words about the murders that took place, and whether the white house and her department knew and did nothing then lied about the reason behind it, She said sorry that should be she shouted: "WHAT DOES IT MATTER. WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF AN AMERICAN WAS KILLED. IF IT WAS A VIDEO THAT STARTED IT. WHAT DOES IT MATTER?' and what did the media do? They spent a week or so on it and then poof something else needed the attention because she no doubt made a few phone calls and got it thrown into the trash.

Remember this is the woman who was rumoured to be pulling strings when Clinton was in the white house. I wont go on but I'll end it with this - If the people of the United States elect this woman or another Bush, they are in major trouble. The country needs fresh minds and fresh eyes. At least you have a choice to vote for a number of people, over where in the UK we're pretty much stuck with people voted in by their own party members and then we have to vote for either one of them.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Well to be fair, Trump's kind of giving me that culty-fan vibe too.

I saw a video yesterday of Trump on WWE Smackdown knocking Vince McWhatever his name out.

And that man wants to be president...

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: theantediluvian

So you'd be fine with large population centers determining every election, then?

Do people living in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago represent the views of everybody in America?

Obviously you missed the point of the electoral college.

I didn't miss the point of anything. The intent is quite obvious as states have exactly as many electoral votes as Congressmen but this sort of weighted appropriation scheme makes a lot more sense when it comes to representation in Congress than it does in Presidential elections.

When it comes to electing the President, I want the guy who gets half a million more votes to win every time. Why should Wyoming, Vermont, North Dakota or D.C., which all have about a 30th of the population of New York, get a 10th as many electoral votes? That means that every persons' vote in NY is effectively worth a third as much.

So there's point #1 (it makes the popular vote effectively meaningless) and #2 (it disproportionately favors those in less populous states).

#3 - Creates "swing states" that get undue focus during election years. Related to #2.
#4 - It tends to favor the current two party system because in a given state if either one wins, the third party candidate's votes are meaningless.

Give me a few minutes and I can probably come up with another handful.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I only know what has been publicized about Bernnie, and its absent any dissension beyond "he's a commie and wears pink". which isn't dissension. Its opinion.

Like BH says, we have a year to vet this guy. But i still don't hold out hope. He kinda looks like the Ron Paul of 2016 (irrelevantly popular). But is starting to smell more like Obama (cult fanatic following not based on reason)

Time will tell. But i'd rather it be Bernie that Hillary (or Trump). At least, if my vote was today. And I was forced to choose a lesser evil.

So the poor choices you see, drive you to the commie pinko.....Stalin is laughing in his grave.

I'm not yet sold on Bernie, but one thing that caught my eye recently is that he is in favor of reinstating Glass-Steagal.

That is a huge deal, in my opinion. That right there would make a much needed change to our financial systems and once again separate investment banking and holdings.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Stalin would be laughing at you for comparing Sanders to a communist.

Come with me, comrade.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Stalin would be laughing at you for comparing Sanders to a communist.

Come with me, comrade.

The person I responded to painted Bernie as commie and pink, and stated he would choose him over the others. Therefore the perceived commie is getting a nod in a US election.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

That's not what he said. Re-read his post.

originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: AlaskanDad

Nothing will happen to her, she is to well connected and knows way to many dark little secrets about other politicians, and powerful people. You can see the smug look in her face,

Some people think other people are prodding her to expose some of those other politicians !!

Nurses back Bernie Sanders:

Bernie Sanders secures first endorsement from national trade union

National Nurses United, which has 185,000 members nationally and is the profession’s largest representative, announced its backing for Sanders at a rally with him in Oakland, California.

She also expressed regret that there was not more alignment between her unions’ interests and the policies of Clinton.

“It’s so fundamentally disappointing that we can’t have a female presidential candidate lined up with our values,” she said. “[But] what Bernie represents is social change and we are organisation dedicated that.”

DeMoro also criticised the Clinton campaign, which she claimed was holding back her more radical tendencies.

“I wanted the Hillary before the consultants go ahold of her campaign,” she said. “I sat in the AFL-CIO meeting and trying to nail her down was extremely difficult,” added DeMoro.

“She is very sophisticated, she is polished, and she can speak to the issues. But in terms where the commitments resting behind the discussion, they weren’t there.”

Bold added for emphasis

source

A very interesting article, my small excerpts do not do it justice.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TinfoilTP

That's not what he said. Re-read his post.

It is exactly what he said. He made known he knows of the commie pink label, states he would pick the one with the commie pink label over the other choices.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Jesus TTP...is that what you got out of that?!?

How about your outrage be directed at the electoral system that can't seem to yield a better group of candidates.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TinfoilTP

That's not what he said. Re-read his post.

It is exactly what he said. He made known he knows of the commie pink label, states he would pick the one with the commie pink label over the other choices.

The "commie pink label" is, as i said, pure opinion.

Humorous aside: i used that phrase ironically, to play on the disdain i have for the stereotype of its typical user.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Well to be fair, Trump's kind of giving me that culty-fan vibe too.

I saw a video yesterday of Trump on WWE Smackdown knocking Vince McWhatever his name out.

And that man wants to be president...

Trump is Idiocracy in real life. As you once said: we will eventually elect a POTUS named Beefy Supreme

originally posted by: Answer
a reply to: theantediluvian

So you'd be fine with large population centers determining every election, then?

Do people living in New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago represent the views of everybody in America?

Obviously you missed the point of the electoral college.

They are GAMING th eelectoral college now though,and it needs modification. No more WIn all decisions. THat is th emain problem. you vote fro someoen else and they dont win your vote goes to someone you didnt want to vote for basically.