Do women REALLY need Planned Parenthood?

a reply to: dawnstar

I keep looking, but no new progress. Like you said they've lifted the restraining orders for now.

originally posted by: kellyjay
maybe someone could fill me in, is it private funding or state funding that pays for the abortions at PP?

It's a combination of fees charged and private contributions.

Planned Parenthood's 2013-2014 annual report shows that it received about $528 million in "Government Health Services Grants & Reimbursements" — about 41 percent of its total funding. It also received about $305 million from non-government health services revenue — 23 percent of its funding — and $257 million in private contributions and bequests, according to the report.

www.bustle.com...

a reply to: kellyjay

but if you feel the state shouldn't be paying for the abortions in your healthcare system, then I imagine the same principle would apply for the insurance companies.
here in the US, there's the same sentiment towards birth control....
so, well, I have to ask...
do you know what kind of toll pregnancy after pregnancy causes to a women's body?? wouldn't preventing that kind of damage be considered a healthcare need of equal worthiness as any other?
if not, well, why????

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: kellyjay
maybe someone could fill me in, is it private funding or state funding that pays for the abortions at PP?

It's a combination of fees charged and private contributions.

Planned Parenthood's 2013-2014 annual report shows that it received about $528 million in "Government Health Services Grants & Reimbursements" — about 41 percent of its total funding. It also received about $305 million from non-government health services revenue — 23 percent of its funding — and $257 million in private contributions and bequests, according to the report.

www.bustle.com...

do we have proof that it was ONLY these funds used to do abortions?

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay
the same could be said of insurance then, which you seem not to have a problem with....
all the policy holders pay their premiums, some of the money is taken out and used to pay the administrative costs, and the rest goes into a pool, and well as the insured people need healthcare the money in that pool it taken out and used to pay for the services.
ain't no different.
except that the administrative costs probably take out a greater portion of the money paid by the policy holders so that the people on the top of the food chain can enjoy their extra hundred dollar pay raise and big ass bonuses!

i dont think there should be a need for insurers, just cut them out of the equation and thats another step towards a socialised healthcare system....i dont need to deal with insurers here, i pay 20% income tax and a portion of it goes towards the publically owned NHS, if i break a leg i go to the hospital and get treatment...no forms need to be filled out, no insurance providers need to be called etc.....get rid of them

I so wish we could.

The insurance lobby has many politicians in their very deep pockets - it is a huge industry that employs thousands of people and brings in BILLIONS of dollars every year. It is quite sick. The Double Game of the U.S. Health Insurance Companies

Maybe someday, at least for the majority of us, that can become the reality. I won't hold my breath, though!

We most definitely agree on this...

- AB

a reply to: ~Lucidity

You are correct, it is a personal choice.
And I choose not to have my taxes contributed towards the murder of unborn children.
What about my rights and choice?

Our taxes should never be paying for this.
Someday, hopefully, people will wake up and make the right "choice".

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay

but if you feel the state shouldn't be paying for the abortions in your healthcare system, then I imagine the same principle would apply for the insurance companies.
here in the US, there's the same sentiment towards birth control....
so, well, I have to ask...
do you know what kind of toll pregnancy after pregnancy causes to a women's body?? wouldn't preventing that kind of damage be considered a healthcare need of equal worthiness as any other?
if not, well, why????

you assume im against conraception?

im not.....in fact im all for FREE contraception, because prevention is key, and will greatly reduce the number of abortions needed.....

we get free contraception here in the uk

a reply to: kaylaluv

All of which clearly shows that big money is involved.

Big enough to trigger a takeover attempt.

Just because PP is a "non-profit", doesn't mean some other organization wants the money.

This whole PP thing might be a corporate takeover in progress.

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: kellyjay
maybe someone could fill me in, is it private funding or state funding that pays for the abortions at PP?

It's a combination of fees charged and private contributions.

Planned Parenthood's 2013-2014 annual report shows that it received about $528 million in "Government Health Services Grants & Reimbursements" — about 41 percent of its total funding. It also received about $305 million from non-government health services revenue — 23 percent of its funding — and $257 million in private contributions and bequests, according to the report.

www.bustle.com...

do we have proof that it was ONLY these funds used to do abortions?

Well, they have been audited by a third party. What kind of proof do you want?

a reply to: kellyjay
no, that isn't how the US works....
you have to find proof that they are using gov't money for the abortions.
ya know innocent till proven guilty!

a reply to: BlueAjah

Current and extant Federal law strictly prohibits tax dollars being used - except in cases of rape, incest or to save the mothers life.

In other words, the current system already is what you want - you are buying into misinformation.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay
no, that isn't how the US works....
you have to find proof that they are using gov't money for the abortions.
ya know innocent till proven guilty!

uhuh ..tell that to those in guantanamo

a reply to: kellyjay

No, they don't.

You pay your taxes. Do you try to follow those pounds through the system?

You pay your taxes. That becomes government revenue, which is used to cover government costs.

"Derp" right back atcha.

a reply to: kellyjay
well, we didn't here, obamacare did try to address this and now most insurance policies have to provide it free of charge. but well, some had a fit over it claiming that it was against their religious principles so well, they don't have to provide coverage for it...look up hobby lobby...
some religions have a thing about blood transfusions, but the supreme court when deciding the hobby lobby case made it a point that their decision couldn't not be carried over to blood transfusions. that's a battle that would have to be fought on it's own merits....
so well, for a women who knows that her health will be endangered by a pregnancy, maybe even life threatening, how is her need any different from someone who needs a blood transfusion?

a reply to: kellyjay
started by bush, another one of those compassionate christians on the far right.......
what he did was a war crime!!!

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: kellyjay

No, they don't.

You pay your taxes. Do you try to follow those pounds through the system?

You pay your taxes. That becomes government revenue, which is used to cover government costs.

"Derp" right back atcha.

you are trying to play semantics with me and it wont wash....the NHS is owned by the public whos taxes fund it...the NHS do abortions ergo tax payers fund abortions

the government does not own the NHS the people do

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay
started by bush, another one of those compassionate christians on the far right.......
what he did was a war crime!!!

doesnt matter one iota to me who started it....so why even mention bush?

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: ~Lucidity

You are correct, it is a personal choice.
And I choose not to have my taxes contributed towards the murder of unborn children.
What about my rights and choice?

Taxes already DON'T pay for abortions... (except in extreme circumstances)

Our taxes should never be paying for this.
Someday, hopefully, people will wake up and make the right "choice".

How about YOU wakeup and go and read the law?

Hyde Amendment

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay
started by bush, another one of those compassionate christians on the far right.......
what he did was a war crime!!!

i men if you want to start throwing shade at presidents i can go there

Inside Guantanamo Bay – President Barack Obama signed an executive order on January 22, 2009, to close the detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year. Nearly six years later, the prison for terrorism suspects remains open

edition.cnn.com...

a reply to: kellyjay

and.....
THE US IS STILL GUILTY OF WARCRIMES!!!

planned parenthood have been investigated beyond belief.... every aspect of it, from congressional committies, to states, to courtrooms....
show me where they were found to be guilty of anything more than zoning ordinances?