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PP - injecting minced baby brains into mice, growing fetuses outside wombs, etc.

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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: Cheddarhead
To me, the real question is, who the hell has PP ticked off? Someone has a serious agenda here, 6 under cover videos now, and probably more to come. There has to be a financial backer with a lot of cash to spend. Why? Is it about causing more division and polarization over hot button issues? Does someone believe there will be a GOP sweep of the presidency, house and senate and Roe vs. Wade will be overturned? Is it an effort to totally defund PP and all the birth control services they also provide and health care for lower income women?


There is some speculation that a few Republican members of congress were behind this since it would give them a lot of leverage in a vote. CMP and a few lawmakers have had some meetings to discuss upcoming releases weeks before they started coming out. Given CMP's shady funding system it's possible that more was going on than that.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 03:51 AM
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I got an idea , why dont all those against abortion line up outside the clinics , then sign a contract binding them to look after the new born for the next 20 years . Perhaps some of our anti abortion ATS members can lead the way. You see the rights of the unborn would not be violated , they get to live and the anti abortion crowd get 20 years of joy and the knowledge that they saved a life . Ok who is first to volunteer .



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: hutch622



to bad there is this little thing called the us government that thinks it owns us.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: fixitwcw

Still no.




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: hutch622

How about a million newborn babies. Every. Single. Year. Let's see how the pro-lifers handle those.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: hutch622

How about a million newborn babies. Every. Single. Year. Let's see how the pro-lifers handle those.


We already know how they will handle them, based on evidence:

"Why should I pay for your birth control?"

"Why should I pay for your abortion?"

"Why should I pay for your kids?"

As you know, the whole thing is predicated not on a concern for Life, for "the babies" or for human beings.

It's about greed, hypocrisy and control.

"Why can't we stop all these abortions!? It's horrifying!"

"Well, will you give $0.002 each year to help others with education and birth control?"

"What, spend MY money on this? It's their problem and they should deal with it."

(NOTE: For all your amateur forensic specialists, this is only a strawman argument if you've never heard these things said (or said them yourself.)

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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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edit nvm you beat me to the punch lol.
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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: hutch622

So you are in favor of "killing the problem" instead of using solutions?




posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hutch622

So you are in favor of "killing the problem" instead of using solutions?




Key facts

6.3 million children under the age of five died in 2013.
More than half of these early child deaths are due to conditions that could be prevented or treated with access to simple, affordable interventions.
Leading causes of death in under-five children are preterm birth complications, pneumonia, birth asphyxia, diarrhoea and malaria. About 45% of all child deaths are linked to malnutrition.
www.who.int...






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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Of course, not getting pregnant in the first place is preferable to abortion. And abortion rates have been going down every year in the U.S. That's a good thing. Thanks to that "liberal" sex education in schools, and thanks to places like Planned Parenthood providing free or low cost contraception.

Now if we could just force those silly Little Sisters of the Poor to provide birth control on their health coverage.... abortion rates might go down even lower.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hutch622

So you are in favor of "killing the problem" instead of using solutions?



Please don't conflate pro-choice with pro-abortion. It is rather insulting and forces us to waste time to correct your rude assumption that you know damn well there is a difference between (or you should at least).
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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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Anti-choice zealots are not big on dealing with the actual facts of any matter. Particularly not those who invade threads with one-liners and emoticons.

You and I and others who favor Choice have repeatedly stated that we are personally against abortion, are in favor of doing everything we can (women's health, education, birth control, education on birth control) to prevent pregnancies and decrease any "need" for abortion (like, you know, the 97% of the services that Planned Parenthood offers) ... but of course, like so much else, those facts don't fit the agenda of the zealots, so that is ignored.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: noonebutme

Well, you still prove my point about ethics
you said they were needless as I believe one
other pro-abortionist in this thread did.
So I do believe it is a common pro-abortion
stance to believe that ethics are more of a problem
and are THE problem with society today.

Ethics derived from nature around us? Those are the only worthwhile ethics?

Animals, sweet animals, kill wantonly and not just for food and not kindly either.
They rip to shreds those who wander into their territory.
So rampant murder because someone walked into your block, is an ethic derived from nature.

Those cute little kittens and beautiful kitty cats, love to torture smaller animals,
to eat? not necessarily, but for fun.
So rampant torture for the fun of it is an ethic derived from nature.

Most male animals in nature rape females as often as they possibly can.
So rape as the normal reproductive behavior is an ethic derived from nature.

Many lovely animals in nature have no problem stealing from each other, especially food.
So theft is an ethic derived from nature.

So beautiful and lovely ethics come from nature? Hardly.
Animal behavior, brutal and terrible come from nature.

I certainly would not want to live in a world where all ethics
are derived from nature.

That is how we ended up with 9,000 babies a year in the US who could survive outside the womb
being torn limb from limb alive and with out anesthesia
having their skulls crushed to insure their deaths once labor is induced
injecting human fetal glial cells into mice and monkeys to create chimera
mice and monkeys with human brains.
That is what is derived from ethics that are solely derived from nature,
terrible, brutal and unfeeling and uncaring.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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In post after post we see anti-choice zealots overtly lie about the issues at hand.

Pro Choice is not Pro Abortion.

Period.

If they lie about such a simple topic ... what else are they lying about?



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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Anti-choice zealots are not big on dealing with the actual facts of any matter. Particularly not those who invade threads with one-liners and emoticons. You and I and others who favor Choice have repeatedly stated that we are personally against abortion, are in favor of doing everything we can (women's health, education, birth control, education on birth control) to prevent pregnancies and decrease any "need" for abortion (like, you know, the 97% of the services that Planned Parenthood offers) ... but of course, like so much else, those facts don't fit the agenda of the zealots, so that is ignored.
a reply to: Gryphon66

look up the page.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: fixitwcw

Still no.





The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir. (Carl Sagan)


this is sad.

hypocrite?



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 08:50 PM
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STEMEXPRESS CUTS TIES WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFTER VIDEO


www.breitbart.com...


The founder and CEO of StemExpress, Cate Dyer, is also the sister of Charlotte Ivancic, the health policy director of House Speaker Rep. John Boehner (R-OH)

hmmm that is interesting



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: TheLegend
a reply to: boymonkey74

I can't tell if your response is satire. I don't care about spinning words. The act of aborting a baby is called "abortion". If you condone the act then it's "pro-abortion". A "choice" is a more generic term and can mean literally anything. I'm "pro-choice" when I choose to drink tea over water, etc.... Since we're talking about abortion, let's be specific.

Anyway just putting the info out. "Arguments" like this one are too pedantic for me. Enjoy.


Wow your very black and white. So I guess your against women having rights? Want to take away their right to vote get them back into the kitchen to have babies at your whim. You male chauvinist pig. See the world isn't black and white.
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posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: fixitwcw

When you have something to say about the issues, instead of personal commentary about me, let me know.

Aside from that, I would be honored if you'd stop replying to me. It's beyond pointless, not to mention, off-topic.



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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The ultimate hypocrisy is that for zealots under certain conditions abortion (aka "baby-killing") is acceptable.

Think about what that means: under certain conditions murder is acceptable.

Yet, they avoid this reality like the plague.

Abortion is not murder. Patently, obviously, medically, scientifically. Quibbling about the "magic moment" at 20/24/26 weeks (I wonder, is it on Monday morning at 8:13 AM or Thursday evening at 6:47 PM of said week that the miracle happens?) when two cherubs fly around the mother 3.5 times with a little uncial banner that says "your fetus is now a human" as pink (or blue) light pulsates from the woman's abdomen ...

Yes, that is absurd. Just as absurd as claiming that a fetus is a fetus one day and a full-fledged human the next.

Abortion is unfortunate, unpleasant, and should be (in any civilized modern society) virtually unnecessary.

I am for abortion being prevented in every way except by giving any government (local, State or Federal) any further dominion over a woman's body.

If you don't want an abortion; don't have one. But don't try to control what other people do with their own bodies, or the almost impossible choices that some times have to be made.
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posted on Aug, 15 2015 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

i hope to see you on the field if the time is ever right and you are still misguided.

i will respect your wishes and stop replying to you as i do not hate you, or even dislike you.

but i won't let you shut me up when what you say will result in many murders when we could nip it in the bud.


i know we will run into each other again and if i remember your name, i will try to remember to not directly speak to you because, believe it or not. it's nothing personal.




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