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originally posted by: Kapusta
a reply to: AlongCamePaul
So is this the story you are painting as if you know exactly what happened.
How do you know he didn't have permission to be on the property ?
he looked calm to me walking up to the house , they didn't appear to be acting out of duty prior .
It was a neighborhood dispute , they were conducting an investigation , once you start talking to an LEO you enter into a contract with them for their services .
Simply Put you don't know exactly what happened , yet you are painting a whole story based on hearsay.
Why do you discount the aggressive dog ? , The LEO had every right to pull his gun if he felt threatened and based off the sound that dog made and his actions I would say he felt threatened. You nor anyone here can assume he was going to pull the trigger on that dog . That's all speculation, yet everyone acts as if THEY KNOW he was going to shoot the dog if had that woman not jumped in the way .
His force upon the woman was a excessive no doubt and maybe disciplinary action should be in order for him.
Need I say more ?
ETA:
No he did not shoot the dog, he drew his weapon on the dog... that is called 'intent to use deadly force'... One of the things they teach you when you are obtaining a lawful permit to carry is do not draw your weapon unless you intend to use it. Because whether you use it or not the intent is still there.
That's crap , When I obtained my CCW, the gun should only be drawn when necessary to act as a deterrent , this is why trigger safety is important . you pull the gun to deter a possible attack and you fire when you know you are going to be harmed or someone else is being harmed . the gun should be used as a means of intimidation and not necessarily used to take a life , when dealing with these types of situations . This is why cops pull people over at gun point .
When I was a cadet/explorer , I went on many ride along , and got to witness felony stops . When they pulled someone over with guns drawn one LEO would be on the right side of the car and every time a person would step out if their were multiple people in the car , he would cock his empty shotgun to intimidate whoever was getting out of the car. It was a safety measure.
but if we go with what you said then , pulling a gun means to shoot every time ? ....right ?
Do you have any information suggesting that this was a home dispute? Please post it! It might change my perspective.
It was a neighborhood dispute , they were conducting an investigation , once you start talking to an LEO you enter into a contract with them for their services .
West Virginia state troopers were called to a house after a neighborhood argument got heated. When one of the cops approach the house a dog (who is chained up and WAGGING HIS TAIL) gives a bark prompting the cop to of course pull out his gun.
Since when had a gun being pointed at a dog ever deterred it from protecting its property from an intruder? Oh wait! It hasn't.
One of the things they teach you when you are obtaining a lawful permit to carry is do not draw your weapon unless you intend to use it
I did however see/hear a dog almost attack a police officer, and that officer showed good restraint not not immediately shooting the dog...