Does the Discovery Kepler 452b Kill the Existence of God?

a reply to: RealTruthSeeker

I thought the Babel Fish already disproved God....

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

That's the tricky part. I would suspect that maybe the laws and concepts would be different for them. They may not need things like salvation or repentance. It could be that they actually obeyed and never strayed from whatever message they received. I don't think it would be fair to say that, if they don't believe in Jesus then that makes Jesus on this planet irreverent. Heck we might be the only creatures out there who actually need a Savior because we are so screwed up. Life on other planets could have been like "Ok, we get it and will obey" whereas here on Earth we just want to do and think how we want without acknowledging our Creator.

I've heard this before... but...

Think about what this means: "intelligent life"
What is that? First, it is a cognitive being that
can make choices 1) to believe things that are true,
and 2) believe things that are not. ...often not knowing
which is which (our whole lives long).

The non-human "person" (ET/Alien) IF "intelligent"
is just as in need of redemption/forgiveness as
we are... why? because FREE WILL produces the
same problem for them as it does for us.

Second, if there is "intelligent life" out there,
it means these "people" will have vastly different
opinions from us as they do each other. In the mix
you would expect to find "true believers" as well
as the "secular scientist" and the guru/mystic.

How could it be otherwise?

None of this proves God exist.

In fact, if there was no god,
then we'd expect the world
to be exactly as it is.

Belief in God is not a issue of intelligence.
It is a issue of EMOTION, and a need to BELIEVE.
Faith is real, even if the object of faith is not.
It can be measured and yes it often has a positive
effect on a persons physiology--faith is good for you.
So, we CHOOSE to BELIEVE (something/anything).
"Everything happens for a reason" etc, etc.

WE believe because we can.
Nothing science discovers will change that.

We believe because we desire/need to.
We want our lives to matter, we need God.
And if there is no GOD, our desire creates him
and our emotional need makes GOD real (to us).

That is what "intelligent life" means in
the context you are using it. It means a
troubled soul in need of redemption.
But the "fact" there are other troubled
souls on other worlds does not prove
that God is... who we say God is.

The truth is we just don't know.
So believe what you want to believe.
I'm OKAY with that.

originally posted by: ketsuko
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We are saved through grace by faith and not through works. Following the Holy Book to the letter would be salvation by works.

That is incorrect.Paul wrote:

" BY GRACE are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God."

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker

originally posted by: 321Go
Logic killed God a long time ago.

K452b confirms or refutes nothing until we find out more about it.

What kind of logic are you talking about?

Flawed logic is my guess.

And we all know how good you are at guessing. Shots in the dark are your MO after all.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker

originally posted by: 321Go
Logic killed God a long time ago.

K452b confirms or refutes nothing until we find out more about it.

What kind of logic are you talking about?

Flawed logic is my guess.

And we all know how good you are at guessing. Shots in the dark are your MO after all.

My only MO is humour that goes above your air filled head.

a reply to: RealTruthSeeker

Maybe someone should tell him habitable =/= habitated