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originally posted by: recapitulated
heating structural steel is like
pouring hot syrup on a pancake.
it dissipates and bleeds off.
a reply to: recapitulated
451 degrees Fahrenheit. However plastic . However plastic
and other hydrocarbons burn at 9-1100 Fahrenheit.
WikiLeaks Dump Vindicated Bush and WMD's in Iraq
Progress Report on the Analysis of Red/Gray Chips in WTC Dust
The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.
There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite.
Who PAID for this study?
Were the submitted samples really what they were purported to be?
Would the thermite residue still be non-degraded after 14 years?
Was the scientist of record, whose name appears at the top of the report, really unbiased, and without government connections?
The waters will continue to be muddied, but one thing is still very clear: 911 was an inside job, thermite or no thermite.
originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Lazarus Short
Well....since there was not any thermite in 2001, not sure why you would wonder about its condition 14 years later...... And, what makes you think "inside" job?
originally posted by: samkent
You seem very distrustful of the scientific study of the dust/chips.
Are you just as distrustful of conspiracy sites where they make their money solely on the back of said conspiracies?
It was an inside job because you can see the cutting charges going off just ahead of the collapse.
Such things take weeks to set up,...
Brent Blanchard: Demolition Expert
Undicisettembre: Since you already mentioned thermite, let's proceed with this topic. What do you think of thermite? Is it even vaguely possible to demolish the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center with thermite?
Brent Blanchard: No. In explosive demolitions thermite is never used.
The thermite assertion first came out three or four years after the event; there was no talk of thermite until 2004 or 2005. All of a sudden this new theory came out because all other theories were very easily proved impractical or impossible.
There was a professor over here in States that decided back then that thermite was his new theory, but the more you look into thermite the more you understand that the way it causes the metal to fail is not consistent with what happened. Then he changed his theory into nano-thermite and now he might even come out with double-nano-thermite. There are always variations that pop up about how thermite might have been used.
In order for thermite to work you have to have a release of the chemical and the chemical has to actually cause the steel to deteriorate. I don't how they think it can be done to an H-beam, or to any very thick steel beam. Thermite doesn't work horizontally, it works vertically. You can't cause thermite to cut horizontally through steel. You can't attach thermite to a bunch of columns, dozens and dozens of columns, and expect it to start cutting clean through all those columns at a predetermined time or especially finish at the same time. I don't understand how it can even theoretically occur. And it's never been articulately explained by the theorists.
Thermite folks just tend to assert that a bunch of guys went in there, put thermite on columns that happened to already be exposed, them somehow triggered it all, and the thermite somehow cut horizontally through a bunch of columns at the same time and caused the building to fail. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Thermite also burns very hot but very slow and it's uncontrolled. When you see tests for thermite you often see it burning on a steel plate, it creates a lot of fire and reaction, but none of these reactions were seen in the Twin Towers. And again, it doesn't burn horizontally through columns that are load bearers. I don't know how it can happen.
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
a reply to: skyeagle409
Who PAID for this study?
Whatever annihilated the WTC was definitely not paper/office fires.