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"Because I exist," you must surrender your merits and achievements...

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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6




Now, I ask you with full sincerity and a set jaw, is there a reason outside of "because they exist" that those receiving government tax redistributed handouts as their routine method of income "deserve" for those policies to continue when it is paid for off the blood, sweat, and tears of those actually busting their asses to either advance themselves or just to stay afloat in this taxed to hell environment?


The reason people are looking for a handout is because corporations are not using as many of our work force as before. So they cant take care of themselves and need handouts. Simple as that.

You cant tell me then get out there and try harder... like i said the jobs are dried up... focus on the problem which is corporation seek automation rather than hiring people.




posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: crazyewok

Because he's not making Cuba a allie or even a friend. Just opening a embassy and establishing formal diplomatic relations.

UK has formal diplomatic relations with cuba but we are not exactly friends and sure as hell are not allies with them.


Save your chickenhawk crying for if the US signs a defence pact with them or trys s to sell them weapons then I might share your selective outrage.




Many other people disagree with your claim...


We're Finally Friends with Cuba Again
December 17, 2014

By Grace Wyler

Politics Editor

After 50 long years of a pretend war, the US and Cuba are finally making up. On Wednesday morning, the White House announced that the US will restore full diplomatic ties with the island nation just 90 miles off the coast of Florida, and open up an embassy there for the first time since Dwight Eisenhower was president.
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www.vice.com...


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That's what Jaime Suchlicki, director of the Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies at the University of Miami and an opponent of the thaw, said was behind Obama's move.

"He comes with a philosophy based on the idea that you make nice with your enemies and they become your friends," Suchlicki said. "The President is doing this based on his own mindset, not on the reality of what is happening."
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www.cnn.com...

You should save your insults and grow the hell up once and for all.




And you should learn to actually read.

Again all it says is the US is opening a embassy and formal relations not signing a alliance.

Just because some random professor from a secound rate university says otherwise doesnt make it so.

Grow up? I think your the one thats needs to grow up as it seems your still stuck in the 1950's.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 06:05 AM
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originally posted by: mymymy
I see the "blame the poor" heavily in this rant. Can I ask what YOU do that is so important to society that you have reached the pedestal you currently are standing on?

I get sick of this "minimal skills" crap. Skip that and go to the importance of the job. Sure being a McDonald's "burger flopper" doesn't take much skill, but as of right now, without it, I'm pretty sure McDonald's would fold in about 3 minutes. The POSITION is very, very vital to them, who cares who fills it? I bet people like you would quit in less than an hour and say it's"beneath" someone of your "skill"
People in, say, marketing, are extremely overpaid. It doesn't take much skill for McDonald's marketing team to basically say "Hey, keep eating here", oh but let me guess, they all have some sort of degree so they're entitled to more money?

Always remember, just because you could afford to get a degree, or have the government pay for you to get one, YOU are just as easily replaceable as the burger flopper


Erm no im not just as easy replaceable.

A burger flipper though important to a company can be replaced in a day.

When working for a pharma company as a microbiologist / immunologist I would take a year and thousands of pounds to replace.
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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Could you expand on that? Not being snarky or anything. Why would it take thousands of pounds and a year to replace you? I'm sure you're not the only microbiologist / immunologist in the UK, and I am also sure you document your work so that others can work on it in case something happens to you.

Again, not being an ass, I am now just genuinely curious



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: mymymy

In this specific case, crazy is pretty much correct

Yes there will always be another immunologist, etc but there is a vast difference in replacing a front line cashier versus a scientist. When a new scientist comes aboard there are hours and days and weeks of training he/she has to go through to understand and learn new processes. Often times scientists working with dangerous chemicals, diseases or in a gov't post have to go through at least a Conf or Secret background clearance which is really expensive. Granted my background was for TS with CNWDI (nuclear weapons) but that clearance cost the gov't a solid 60,000+

But even if Crazy documents all the work, the specific position and new scientist has to be spun up and that doesn't happen in a week or a day.

Understand I am pretty much hard left on this topic and firmly believe that this "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" thing is total BS, but I was adding my specific take on that explination
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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: KyoZero

Thanks for the reply. I had actually thought of editing my original comment, but it being a Friday night, I was already out and about when the thought occurred.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: MoonBlossom


People have forgotten what president Kennedy "a democrat" said.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"


I was gonna say the same thing, just add that he'd rolled over in his grave so many times now, he's drilled himself to china.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You should read some of the books of Father Malachi Martin about what has been happening in the Vatican. Including satanic rituals which he described were being done by certain members of the high hierarchy of the Vatican. Father Malachi Martin was not only a catholic priest, and a Jesuit. But he was also a learned man, a scientist and was one of the researchers who translated the Dead Sea Scrolls.

He was secretary to Cardinal Bea during the second Vatican council in which was debated whether or not to tell the people about the Third Secret of Fatima.

He was a friend of various Cardinals and even popes in the Vatican, and knew what the Third Secret of Fatima was about. According to him part of the third secret of Fatima was that Satan himself had entered into the Vatican even at it's highest levels.

Eventually many Catholics are going to catch up as to what the Vatican has become, and there will be a mass exodus of believers from the church.

Anyway, most of the Vatican, not only the present pope, are in favor of the socialist/fascist world government.



posted on Aug, 9 2015 @ 03:54 AM
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originally posted by: mymymy
a reply to: crazyewok

Could you expand on that? Not being snarky or anything. Why would it take thousands of pounds and a year to replace you? I'm sure you're not the only microbiologist / immunologist in the UK, and I am also sure you document your work so that others can work on it in case something happens to you.

Again, not being an ass, I am now just genuinely curious


For starters it takes six months alone just to be certified to enter a cat 3 bio lab. Another six to be allowed to do the work without supervision. Then there are the mountins of SOP's one has to memorize and rhe mandatory vaccines the company has to folk out for.....



posted on Aug, 9 2015 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant




What are "minimum skills" in a market based economy?


Minimum skills are a lack of education or vocational training. Much of which is provided through free educational benefits via various government programs. I'm not a huge fan of these programs, but my distaste for them might actually be a result of their low usage rates by people who would rather complain about their lot in life while simultaneously expressing how "unfair" it is that someone else who has more skills and education makes more than them.




You can make millions of dollars by putting a soccer ball in a net.


No one in the US makes money playing soccer. lol (It's a joke)




However most teachers in actual colleges & universities make crap wages because of the whole "adjunct professor" scam. And someone else can graduate from that college with a bachelor's or master's degree; but if there are no job openings, they won't even be able to make minimum wage.


Stop getting degrees in History, or Literature, or Fine Art, or Music, or Dance, or "Women's Studies" or any other of the litany of liberal arts degrees that eat up $100k in student loans. Instead get a degree in mechanical engineering, applied science degrees, physics, computer science, medicine, so forth and so on.

Try actually getting a degree in something that isn't a degree whose curriculum was developed by a hippie in Eugene, Oregon while he was high off his ass and you might be able to pay back your student loans and make a nice living for yourself.

Either get the skills that will pay, or don't complain that you don't make the cut.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

There is one flaw in your ideology.

What about those who do not possess the aptitude to do anything other than min wage work?

It is easy for someone with your educational aptitude to tell the world to gain more skills, because this is something that is easy for you.

I have managed and supervised minimum wage workers for a good portion of my life. And I would estimate that more than half of them do not have the mental aptitude to either move up, nor get any form of degree to find a skilled job.

These are the people flipping your burgers and stalking the shelves at your local retailers. Do they not deserve a living wage, simply because they don't possess the aptitude to advance?


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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 02:28 AM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

Did it ever occur to you that America's cycle of welfare, subsidized lives, and provided for care is one of the reasons today's minimum wage is so disconnected from a living wage? Think about it... When you have issues like subsidized housing in which the minimum rents in your area are all income controlled thanks to state subsidies... Meaning if you make 35,001 per year you're stuck paying $500 additional min rent vs the dude who avoided the subsidy cuttof because he made $29,999 last year.

The free market only works when it is free..



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: burdman30ott6

There is one flaw in your ideology.

What about those who do not possess the aptitude to do anything other than min wage work?

It is easy for someone with your educational aptitude to tell the world to gain more skills, because this is something that is easy for you.

I have managed and supervised minimum wage workers for a good portion of my life. And I would estimate that more than half of them do not have the mental aptitude to either move up, nor get any form of degree to find a skilled job.

These are the people flipping your burgers and stalking the shelves at your local retailers. Do they not deserve a living wage, simply because they don't possess the aptitude to advance?



Unless you are serverly mentally disabled there are plenty of jobs people who are not academically minded can do aside from flipping burgers.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Malachi Martin may have known people in the 60s but he's best known now for his sensationalist fiction.

A bit like the idea of a socialist/fascist world government.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: nullafides


Maybe Americans will lose some weight when fast food prices go through the roof to cover the $15/hr wages.

One irony about the minimum wage hikes is that many low wage workers in Seattle are asking their bosses to scale their hours back so that they don't earn too much to qualify for Medicare, EBT, welfare, etc.




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