Bernie Sanders: Tonight's GOP debaters don't care about working people

originally posted by: ColeYounger
“They want to give more tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires at a time when the rich are getting much richer,” Sanders said.


News flash Bernie: In the last 4-5 years, the wealthiest 2-3 percent have gotten richer than any previous time.
Any time in the history of America.
With a democrat in the white house.

Which is why people scratch their head when people call obama anything but an establishment democrat...

Can't be a no good socialist commie marxist saul alinsky tactic using dog when you are making the wealthiest people more money.

Workers vs the super wealthy is hardly a new political paradigm. I like Bernie Sanders and want him to win, but what he's talking about is hardly a new concept its pretty much been the battle all throughout history.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AlaskanDad

Of course they don't care about working people. These are the same men that fight against unions, pay lip service to small business while stabbing them in the back for their corporate buddies and completely dismiss the idea that wages are in serious need of help.

I'm still not completely convinced that Bernie is the guy for me. Even though I'm a socialist, he's not socialist enough for me. But Bernie is consistent and does represent the working man.

Lord knows we could use some socialism right now and I may have to break down and support the guy.

You may need a bit of socialism (the retarded spawn of communism and sister to Marxism), but what you need more is a return to being a Republic, the rule of law, the removal of lobbying, nationalization of the FED and of course viable laws against predatory capitalism. As long those issues I mentioned are not attended to, the US will continue to slide towards increased levels of war, international bullying and third world status.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Minus your comments regarding socialism, I can agree.

There are many things we could do to return this country to what is was designed to be, but I don't see that coming anytime soon.

To the topic, how much should government "care" about working people?

All government does to "working people" is tax them.

Now if they are going to ease taxes, control spending, be fiscally responsible (yeah, even I laughed) then it would concern the "working people".

But that should be about it.

a reply to: beezzer

To the topic, how much should government "care" about working people?

The topic is how the candidates themselves do not care about working people, not government.

They should care as they represent us, but they do not.

The majority of profits go to the shareholders not CEOs. quick to blame the CEO but the shareholders are the ones putting pressure on the CEOs to grow their margin in order to keep pace with inflation.

The reason the economy totally sucks and isn't moving anywhere on a local level is because we've lost ten million manufacturing jobs and entire cities have been crushed. They got rid of the unions and pensions and now if they come back they pay 9$ an hour or use staffing agencies as their primary source of labor.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

To the topic, how much should government "care" about working people?

The topic is how the candidates themselves do not care about working people, not government.

They should care as they represent us, but they do not.

How should they "care"?

a reply to: beezzer

How should they "care"?

By representing our best interests, or serving the will of the people, in their duties as representatives.

It is not their job to represent any interest other than the people's.

a reply to: introvert
Oh your about to waste your energy.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

How should they "care"?

By representing our best interests, or serving the will of the people, in their duties as representatives.

It is not their job to represent any interest other than the people's.

Vague.

So Bernie is just speculating.

I mean, don't all representatives represent us?

Obama got 51% of the vote, but he represents 100% of us.

How can a GOP candidtae illustrate that he/she "cares" about the "working people"?

Simply by saying that they are for our best interests?

a reply to: AlaskanDad

Yeah, i read on. And to be honest, i am less than impressed with Sanders statements.

What he has to say can be summed up thusly: class warfare. His campaign posters should just replace his face on the Che shirts and hand them out to anyone under 25.

The Pied Piper of the Poor.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

How should they "care"?

By representing our best interests, or serving the will of the people, in their duties as representatives.

It is not their job to represent any interest other than the people's.

God, wouldn't it be nice if such a person existed?

Is that anything like George Bush doesn't care about black people?

It's a remark in extremely poor taste.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

But...but...companies and corporations ARE people, and we can't take away their free speech by limiting their donations!

/sarcarsm

a reply to: onequestion

I know.

a reply to: beezzer

How can a GOP candidtae illustrate that he/she "cares" about the "working people"?

By working with, not against, other representatives in congress to solve problems and pass legislation that benefits the people of the United States. Being unwilling to compromise or only representing the corporate interests does not do anything for the people of this nation.

You have to put your money where your mouth is and it appears that Bernie has been that sort of representative.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I think they do exists. May be rare, but they exist.

a reply to: ketsuko

I would agree, but this is not about race and the GOP has a proven track record of not giving a damn about working people.

I don't believe the Dems are completely off the hook either.

originally posted by: introvert

By working with, not against, other representatives in congress to solve problems and pass legislation that benefits the people of the United States. Being unwilling to compromise or only representing the corporate interests does not do anything for the people of this nation.

And they can do that in a presidential debate?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

I would agree, but this is not about race and the GOP has a proven track record of not giving a damn about working people.

I don't believe the Dems are completely off the hook either.

Hell no they aren't off the hook. They do not provide principled leadership. They provide pandersing to a base. They stoke the ego of the working class. Well, that and buying off the nonworking class.

Take minimum wage as an example....the problem with the minimum wage is the value of the dollar. It isn't that $7.25 wasn't a decent wage when it was first instated as the law of the land. Its that the dollar has continued to decay. And each time the minimum wage is raised, it just consumes a little more of the working class.

a reply to: beezzer

Of course not. The premise of the thread is that when you hear these candidates speak tonight remember that they have a proven track record of not representing the working class.