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What is Baphomet?

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posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7




I think this is Elephas Levi's drawing


On yeah, there's a few out there.




posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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I don't believe in magic and tales told to scare the wee kiddies.



posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
I don't believe in magic and tales told to scare the wee kiddies.



Deep ... Lol



posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: Swills




Whatever you do, don't go searching for answers on YouTube because you will be bombarded by loons and their crazy thoughts.

Have you done an ATS search?



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

You should probably do a quick history lesson on ATS and YT. Fun fact, ATS is much older than YouTube.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:36 AM
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Its a religious deity among the Knights Templars, the religious aspect of between the Masonry and the Templars are ancient symbolics and the idealistic values. In some sense you could link them together, but the fact is they share very little in common. Knights Templars didnt support a human deity like the king of France, but the necessary control over the trade routes and a Banking system, was actually their doom in France. They lived on in England until they also had to disperse from there.

The Knights Templar holds mysticism, cause well, mysticism is involved. There were thoughts about resurrecting it, but in my concern its a bad idea. Cause the idealism in a Knights templar has gone Nationalistic, which its not.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: yulka
Its a religious deity among the Knights Templars, the religious aspect of between the Masonry and the Templars are ancient symbolics and the idealistic values. In some sense you could link them together, but the fact is they share very little in common. Knights Templars didnt support a human deity like the king of France, but the necessary control over the trade routes and a Banking system, was actually their doom in France. They lived on in England until they also had to disperse from there.

The Knights Templar holds mysticism, cause well, mysticism is involved. There were thoughts about resurrecting it, but in my concern its a bad idea. Cause the idealism in a Knights templar has gone Nationalistic, which its not.


Proof that a lie told often enough will eventually be accepted as truth.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: network dude

The main aspect of whom the Knights Templars were isnt that great, they had very little to do with society in general. The truth is better hidden, so the stories can live about their escapades.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: yulka

the lies were made up by the Pope and the King to steal the wealth of the Templars. It's been historical fact for quite some time now.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: nonjudgementalist

A very long and weird road that could possibly lead to Saturn. The Baphomet is a catch-all phrase for occult, especially regarding Hollyweird. No one knows the truth, but people with open eyes see a pyramid and an eye throughout society. A road littered with bull#, truth encrusted with fiction....and designed that way.

Music is modernized chant. Entertainment is ritual. People are clueless.
Is-Ra-El.

There is a house. One enters it blind and comes out seeing.
edit on 6-8-2015 by Flesh699 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 07:19 AM
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There is a bloodline called Merovingians which holds a power structure or a symbolic meaning for men to follow, a human deity so to say. You have the Cardinal Virtues which a theologian scholar ( Aristotle Thomas Aquinas 1225- 1274 ) should teach the "Symbolic persona" an Elite or a royalist how to behave as a Symbolic figurine for humans in society.


King Philip IV and Pope Clement

The whole ordeal was the aim for power and war with England


As Duke of Aquitaine, the English king Edward I was a vassal to Philip, and had to pay him homage. Following the Fall of Acre in 1291 however, the former allies started to show dissent.[7] In 1293 following a naval incident between the Normans and the English, Philip summoned Edward to the French court. The English King sought to negotiate the matter and sent ambassadors to Paris but they were turned away with a blunt refusal. Negotiation was for kings, Edward was addressed by Philip as a duke, a vassal and nothing more, despite the incident having been an international one between England and France and not an internal one involving Edward's possessions within the kingdom of France. Attempting to use their family connections to achieve what open politics had not, Edward sent his brother Edmund Crouchback (who was both Philip's cousin and step-father-in-law) to come negotiate with the French Royal family and avert war. Also, Edward was at that time betrothed by proxy to Philip's sister Blanche, and Edmund was to escort her to England for the wedding in the event of the negotiations being successful. An agreement was indeed reached; it stated that Edward would voluntarily relinquish his continental lands to Philip as a sign of submission in his capacity as Duke of Aquitaine and in return Philip would forgive him and restore his land after a grace period. In the matter of the marriage, Philip drove a hard bargain based partially on the difference in age between Edward and Blanche; it was agreed that the province of Gascony would be retained by Philip in return for agreeing to the marriage. The date of the wedding was also put off until the formality of sequestering and re-granting his French lands to Edward was completed. But Edward, Edmund and the English were deceived. The French had no intention of returning the land to the English monarch. Edward kept up his part of the deal and turned over his continental estates to the French but Philip used the pretext that the English King had refused his summons to strip Edward of all his possessions in France, thereby initiating hostilities with England.[7] The outbreak of hostilities with England in 1294 was the inevitable result of the competitive expansionist monarchies, triggered by a secret Franco-Scottish pact of mutual assistance against Edward I; inconclusive campaigns for the control of Gascony to the southwest of France were fought in 1294–98 and 1300–03. Philip gained Guienne but was forced to return it. The search for income to cover military expenditures set its stamp on Philip's reign and his contemporary reputation. Pursuant to the terms of the Treaty of Paris (1303), the marriage of Philip's daughter Isabella to the Prince of Wales, heir of Philip's enemy, celebrated at Boulogne, 25 January 1308, was meant to seal a peace; instead it would produce an eventual English claimant to the French throne itself, and the Hundred Years' War.[citation needed]


Drive for Income


Drive for income See also: Coinage of Philip IV of France See also: History of the Jews in France § The Great Exile of 1306 Sledgehammer denier during Philip the Fair In the shorter term, Philip arrested Jews so that he could seize their assets to accommodate the inflated costs of modern warfare, expelling them from his French territories on 22 July 1306. At this point in his reign Philip was faced with extensive financial liabilities, partially inherited from his father's war against Aragon and partially incurred by the cost of his own campaigns against the English and their allies in Flanders. His financial victims also included rich abbots and the Lombard merchants who had earlier made him extensive loans on the pledge of repayment from future taxation. Like the Jews, the Lombard bankers were expelled from France and their property expropriated. In addition to these measures Philip debased the French coinage which by 1306 had led to a two-thirds loss in the value of the livres, sous and denirs in circulation. This financial crisis led to rioting in Paris which forced Philip to briefly seek refuge in the Paris Temple - headquarters of the Knights Templar.[8] Philip was condemned by his enemy, Pope Boniface VIII in the Catholic Church[9] for his spendthrift lifestyle. When he also levied taxes on the French clergy of one half their annual income, he caused an uproar within the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy, prompting Pope Boniface VIII to issue the Bull Clericis laicos, forbidding the transference of any church property to the French Crown. This prompted a drawn-out diplomatic battle between Church and King. Philip convoked an assembly of bishops, nobles and grand bourgeois of Paris in order to condemn the Pope. This precursor to the Etats Généraux appeared for the first time during his reign, a measure of the professionalism and order that his ministers were introducing into government. Philip emerged victorious, after having sent his agent William Nogaret to arrest Boniface at Anagni, when the French archbishop Bertrand de Goth was elected pope as Clement V and the official seat of the papacy moved to Avignon, an enclave surrounded by French territories.[citation needed]


A mans greed was the fall for the Templars.

The one who you should look at is Pope Clement V

Philip was a pawn.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: Flesh699

Catch up on history, not sure how you got Saturn and Israel politics in the same reference.

El



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree


I see the similarities here.


I think this is much closer:




posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

how nice....



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

so, a fair amount of the world's male population keeps humpin a goat head, right? i knew all along that there was some perversion involved but never thought that it'd be taken that far, jus wow... o_O



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: jamsession

so, a fair amount of the world's male population keeps humpin a goat head, right? i knew all along that there was some perversion involved but never thought that it'd be taken that far, jus wow... o_O


Well, I liked it, so I put a ring on it.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 02:33 PM
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So all life was conceived in a goats head?
It's all starting to all make sense now.
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posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: nonjudgementalist
So all life was conceived in a goats head?
It's all starting to all make sense now.


Ahh...hmmmm....

No.

One is a Satanic scourge that has been tormenting man from his primitive days. The other is a goat's head.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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I starred your comment for the enthusiasm you displayed in your response to me. Btw, this ties into the matter at hand and the object at the centre of this discussion: Enthusiasm literally means "the God (entheo) inside (iasm)."



I should mention, you probably won't get this unless you're past a certain age.


Age is only a number. I notice that fact every morning as I watch people daily commute their existence away as I sip my tea. One will not "get it" (its symbolical nature) if they are beyond the age of reason...



I'm still not, and furthmore wary of wasting time by attempting to... If you get it you get it, and if you don't you don't


Oh...the magician that has always dwelt within me and kindly nurtured by others since youth gets it very much (with eyes closed). The deeper question is: Do you "get it?"

Signpost #1:

The imaginatio, or the act of imagining, was thus a physical activity that could be fitted into the cycle of material changes that brought these about and was brought about by them in turn.” ~ Carl Gustav Jung

As Above; So Below. As Within; So Without.

Signpost #2:

books.google.ca... sa=X&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAWoVChMI29netKSVxwIVClY-Ch2nowWV#v=onepage&q=fantasia%20esotericism&f=false

Signpost #3 (actually listening/following this one as I type away):





My understanding is that it's a state of being, rather than an intrinsic part of our nature or some kind of deity.


One of out of three is not bad for the unitiated. If you accept "intrinsic part of our nature" and "Some kind of deity" as being YOU symbolically represented in many ways and many forms all being equal, you will perfect your vision and attain a higher degree of overstanding in life and of others as it relates to Self.



Anyway
I wanted to talk about some possible connection to the mafia (or "the mob"). But wasnt sure how to put that into words. I'm still not, and furthmore wary of wasting time by attempting to...


*Sighs* - Yeah....that would indeed be an extreme waste of time, my friend.



Where is it pointing? What is it pointing?


IT points everywhere and to everything that the blind cannot see and the deaf cannot hear...



But I still don't fully get what it means of what it is. I mean is it a metaphor, a signpost, or a deity? It can't be all three.



The living experience of God through one's relationship with the imaginatively created philosophers’ stone will easily answer your question.


edit on 6-8-2015 by Involutionist because: grammar and punctuation SUCKS!



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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LOL!




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