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5th Planned Parenthood Video Released

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SpaDe_

Have you watched the video? Because in the video when they were discussing the 20 week old, it was about an intact brain not the entire baby. In fact, in the video the PP person DOES say that the older the fetus the harder it is to have a fully intact one. Then there are some selective edits and leading questions that make it LOOK like the lady is saying that she can deliver a fully intact baby that old.

Not to mention the undercover is literally asking the PP person to change their procedures so that they can accommodate the request. The lady was talking up to a point about whole organs being delivered, then the undercover starts talking about whole fetuses. Not to mention, the PP person is acting as an intermediary between a company that they are supposed to get this fetus from.

There are so many damn edits and video skips that it is hard to get a good peg as to what is REALLY going on though. Just got to the part where they show the 20 week old fetus, it's completely chopped up. Lol. So much for fully intact...



I want to highlight your last couple of sentences:

Just got to the part where they show the 20 week old fetus, it's completely chopped up. Lol. So much for fully intact...

Perhaps you are just referring to the fact that you think it proves a point...but the total lack of any humanity at adding a LOL to the end of a casually made comment about cut up babies is just....well, sick. The whole topic is sick, and that anyone would defend it is beyond my understanding.

Everyone needs to check themselves.

Do you even comprehend anymore what you're talking about? It's not a wart that's been cut off. Or, most of you supporters seem to refer to these babies that way, so maybe you really DO think of them in the same context. Like I said: sick.
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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: 2wheelvet

They're "fake" in that they misrepresent the truth, to implicate PP for doing something illegal -- which they aren't.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to understand.


How do they misrepresent the truth? You can watch the full length ones, they say the same damn thing, its just longer winded



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t



I often wonder what defense of the einsatzgruppen of the western world would look like,now I know.




I want a Lamborghini.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: 2wheelvet

They're "fake" in that they misrepresent the truth, to implicate PP for doing something illegal -- which they aren't.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to understand.


You are the one who seemingly can't understand simple facts
The truth of PP doing something illegal is spoken of by the PP doctors themselves.

The PP doctors themselves are speaking of getting around the law. Period.

You having your PP sacred cow caught in the act does not make the facts any less true

Deal with it.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: xuenchen

Have to resort to guilt-tripping and religious ranting?

How do you expect to get through to anyone with that sort of tactic?


Thing is we all know that no matter what, no one will get through to you.

There could be a video (I am not saying there is, this is hypothetical)
of a crying blob of fetal tissue of 40 weeks
(full term) being dissected alive
and you would say
"It's the woman's body and the woman's choice."

And another person would chime in, it's faked,
it's all fake, it's highly edited to make the baby look alive,
and to make planned parenthood look bad, it's all fake.

Your heart and the hearts of others on this thread
are so hardened that we all know that for you
and others on this thread, there is absolutely no hope
of you ever caring about even the babies
who were mature enough that they would have lived
and been normal if they had been
born rather than aborted (those over 24 weeks - 9,000 per year;
and certainly those over 27 weeks).

We don't know how many were over 27 weeks
because abortions are categorized with 24-40 weeks lumped together.

24 weeks is when an infant can survive on it's own
and has a good chance of survival if allowed to be born.

But since that is sooooooo rare, only 9000 per year in the US;
we mustn't think of it in your world view.

9,000 why that is
hardly any at all is it? It's only around 1% of all abortions
performed every year, so rare.

What if an organization went around killing 9,000 unwanted
adults per year who were incapable of caring for
themselves. The organization kindly tells
the family that the "person" is now just a blob of organs;
because no one really wants the 9,000 people so they
could be classified as blobs of organ tissue and
disposed of.

I imagine you would applaud such an organization
for their kind and compassionate treatment of the
families of the adults who
required a great deal of care,
people the families
did not want and could not afford to care for.
Even if, behind closed doors the blobs of tissue
were dissected alive and with no anesthesia,
as is done to the 9,000 24+ week old fetus'
each year in the US.

Nope, we will not move your heart nor change your mind.
No use trying.
It is made up.

You have no emotions to move when it comes to abortion.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ~Lucidity



Of *Course* she asks questions that nobody can immediately respond to.

What a clever tactic.

And all her bouncing and bobbing and weaving too.



What did you think of her haircut?

Because that is more related to the matter at hand than anything you just said.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

I think what is most
disgusting about the
sick, macabre fantasies that
those who claim to be
PRO life come up with is the
most obscene, torturous
descriptions of what they
fantasize might be happening.

No one who knows that the only
reasonable, equitable, and
legal way to handle this sad
fact of life, is for the matter to be
between
a woman and her own conscience,
because in the end, whatever happens
She is the one who must live with the
Choice.

I've heard people say that we should
allow for "abortion" up to and including
kids the age of 5 years old. What
kind of monster would say something like
that? And moreso, what kind of Mengleled
personality would contemplate that injecting
poison into a viable baby (at 40 weeks) is the same
as what happens to over half of all fertilized
human eggs ... and in the minds and eyes
of these ... people ... there is no difference.

I am glad that I do not believe in their god,
because if I did, I would be terrified of
what was waiting for me in
eternity, after dreaming up such horrors.

Many of those who believe
in Choice, hate the fact of abortion,
and would do anything to avoid that act,
prevention and education being
number one and two. However, those
who claim to love Life over Control,
don't want to waste their money, on
easy and early prevention of
any more fetuses
laying on a
table.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: 2wheelvet

They're "fake" in that they misrepresent the truth, to implicate PP for doing something illegal -- which they aren't.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to understand.


You are the one who seemingly can't understand simple facts
The truth of PP doing something illegal is spoken of by the PP doctors themselves.

The PP doctors themselves are speaking of getting around the law. Period.

You having your PP sacred cow caught in the act does not make the facts any less true

Deal with it.


Yeah, except ... none of that is what is on these videos.

I know that's what you people see, but that is not what is there.

And I've finally realized how serious our problem is in this country; we live in two totally different worlds.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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So what should they do with the dead babies ? Throw them away or sell them to science ?



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Foderalover
So what should they do with the dead babies ? Throw them away or sell them to science ?


Elect them to congress.

They'd probably do better than the lot we have now.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

A fetus at 24 weeks has basically a 50% chance of survival outside the womb.

The same as every fertilized egg; a 50% chance of being aborted naturally.

At 40 weeks, if the mother's life is in danger, every one of you has said you approve of abortion.
In the case of incest or rape, many of you have said you approve of abortion.

Abortion is abortion. If it is murder, it is always murder.

Except that many in favor of Choice do not see termination before viability as Murder. Right or wrong.

When we consider the necessity of the Choice, we are not "killing a baby."

But those who stand against Choice, at least many of you, are ...

Do you see the difference?

Do you see the irony in calling yourselves "pro" life?

Murder is acceptable ... SOMETIMES.

You chill me to the bone.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Foderalover

Sell them to Mitt's old company. Mmmhmmm.
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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Foderalover
So what should they do with the dead babies ? Throw them away or sell them to science ?


Elect them to congress.

They'd probably do better than the lot we have now.


Abortion is going to be a fact.

Should the remains be thrown away, or used for medical advances?

There's an obvious answer there for anyone with a conscience.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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The cognitive dissonance on both sides is an interesting social experiment, in my opinion.


You have some, who believe in war and murder, but detest abortion/termination...

Then you have those who are very crass & almost snide, lexically, to defend this, who otherwise abhor murder & war...



It's not very telling from my own standpoint, but I'm sure there are a few social engineers watching these debates online and studying hard.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I resigned myself to the fact that you will never change my mind, I will never change yours..

In the face of horror, I can only laugh.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Foderalover

Sell them to Mitt's old company. Mmmhmmm.


I wonder if Mitt made a profit?

If he did, he only paid 15% tax on it, if at all.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

I resigned myself to the fact that you will never change my mind, I will never change yours..

In the face of horror, I can only laugh.


Funny, I don't laugh in the face of horror, I still cringe and shed real tears,

... as opposed to cartoon ones.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66



It is killing a baby, trying to justify it using legalese does not lessen the murder.





I want a lamborghini.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
The cognitive dissonance on both sides is an interesting social experiment, in my opinion.


You have some, who believe in war and murder, but detest abortion/termination...

Then you have those who are very crass & almost snide, lexically, to defend this, who otherwise abhor murder & war...



It's not very telling from my own standpoint, but I'm sure there are a few social engineers watching these debates online and studying hard.


Abortion has been a fact of human life since there has been human life. No women who does not wish to be pregnant, no matter what her reasons, is going to stay pregnant. So that isn't the discussion here. The discussion is do we take away choices and safety leave women to hang out there on their own for abortions and for other care or do we try to impose our own personal values on them.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

It's occurred to me more than once in this matter, Charlie, that all of us are not the matter of the experiment ...

... we're the results.



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