Body Cam Shows What a SWAT Team Sees When they Raid Wrong Home, Flashbang Kids, Kick Cats

a reply to: MystikMushroom

That's beyond martyrdom; that would be the height of ineptitude.

originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: MystikMushroom

That's beyond martyrdom; that would be the height of ineptitude.

If one person dies defending his or her home from an unwarranted and illegal raid by police, and *if* that one time actually changes policy, I would consider that martyrdom. That's a BIG if, though.

Is that likely to happen? Probably not. But if it did, well...

Saw a number of things that could use improvement:

First and foremost, they needed better intel before conducting the raid.

Piggybacking off wi-fi is commonplace and most anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of how to "evade detection" on the internet knows these methods - why isn't there a greater task force specializing in checking all the possibilities before issuing the SWAT directive?

Secondly, they didn't completely surround all exits before making themselves known. Where I live folks can jump out a back window or door faster than lightning when cops roll up.

Third, no visual confirmation of alleged "cat kicking". Circumstantial speculation.

Fourth, good job on the residents for not reacting violently and my heartfelt thanks to the responder who was kind to the young lady (who no way in hell is 18) and her grandmother.

Fifth - the young man who piggybacked the wi-fi should also be charged with the cost of replacing the front door that was broken during entry, as it was his willful misdirection that ultimately resulted in the raid on the wrong house.

Also, a formal apology to the peaceful residents.

Glad no one got hurt.
Stressful situation indeed, but so glad it wasn't as bad as I had feared upon reading the headline.

We need more cyber specialists in these task forces to insure the right house is on target in the future.

a reply to: Liquesence

Yeah, I get your point. 'm sticking with stupid.

I wonder if the mindset behind this raid was more a reactionary one where the cops sat around and decided they were get this guy and scare the living snot out of him,instead the clowns went to the wrong house screwed up big time and were so embarrassed by their stupidity they let the guy hand himself in,instead of another swat raid.....hmmmm....either way pretty sad situation

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Stand your ground! Protect yourself, your family, your home! Don't expect the pd to do it. The pd is the problem, NOT the solution! No longer do they protect and defend. They enforce, with heavy emphasis on force. Police FORCE.
So stand your ground, Americans!!!

reprehensible. and the cretins were laughing about it. way to protect and serve. best karmic wishes to them all.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Someone will do it and die a martyr. It'll eventually happen and maybe wake people up.

It's bound to happen with as many armed Americans out there...

Of course, the media would twist it around, and make the innocent home-defender into some crazy anti-government whack job so that the SWAT/Police could save face...even in the event of a wrongful entry. Just you watch..

"SWAT forced their entry on the wrong home today, and one member of the team died. The member was shot by a fanatical anti-government activist. Inside the home, a large arsenal of assault weapons was found, as well as constitutional material."

How much you want to bet that exact script would be played if someone shot back after a false entry?

Someone has already done it. A raid on the wrong house caused the homeowner to think it was a home invasion by thugs. Turns out he was correct but the thugs wore uniforms and shot him dead after he fired a shotgun into the ceiling in hopes of scaring the bad guys away from his home.
abcnews.go.com...

And the scumbag thugs beat the charges.
stopthedrugwar.org...

The first story states that Adams fired the shotgun. I can't find the source at present but somewhere there is a link to this story that shows the hole in the ceiling where Mr. Adams fired. He wasn't trying to kill anyone. Too bad the cops didn't have the same attitude.
His wife was paid off by the department. I believe they decided that Mr. Adams' life was worth about $400k!

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
well at least nobody got hurt and the swat were semi friendly.

that being said the dynamic entry and the clearing were sloppy as hell.

I dunno I actually am going to be hanging out this evening with a retired recon marine thats had more than his fair share or clearing buildings and houses when he was a part of the "Baghdad SWAT" thinking he'll say the same thing. sloppy.

"at least nobody got hurt" In our country nobody should be treated in such a manner for watching tv in their own living room. Do you think that child won't have nightmares for a long time to come!

"Semi friendly"
I don't know about you but when I'm minding my business in my home and a bunch of guys break into my home pointing guns at me and putting me in handcuffs---I just can't bring myself to consider that one tiny bit FRIENDLY!
Every freaking one of them deserve to spend a good deal of time in the crossbar hotel cooling their arrogant heels and never, ever, be authorized to carry any sort of badge or weapon.

They are probably bored Iraq war vets.

a reply to: Liquesence

It took them only a day to discover that it was indeed he who was responsible—he had used Mrs. Milan’s open network to threaten the police. But rather than give him the SWAT-team treatment, the police politely re-quested that he come to police headquarters, which he did, where he was arrested without incident. (He was prosecuted for the threats, pleaded guilty, and was given a sixteen-month prison sentence.) The police department’s kid-gloves treatment of Murray is in startling contrast to their flash- bang assault on Mrs. Milan’s home.

Probably had a quota to fill and they already filled it, or they just didn't have enough funds to conduct another raid so soon. Or raiding the wrong house gave them a wake up call and they realized that some times excessive force isn't necessary and simply asking can be enough.