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Body Cam Shows What a SWAT Team Sees When they Raid Wrong Home, Flashbang Kids, Kick Cats

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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A judge has ordered body cam footage released of an Indiana swat team raid on the wrong house. There were threats posted to the police online so they tracked th ip address and raided the house it came back to.

Without any other due diligence, like finding out who lived in the house or checking if it was even anyone in that house, they just sent a swat team.

Turns it was their neighbor piggy-backing on their wi-fi. Of course police tried like hell to not have to release the video because god forbid they admit they completely effed up .

This is another one of those cases where the whole swat team and the dumbass judge that signed off on the warrant should be charged with a crime.

My god just a little due diligence before having 12 armed men kick in someones effing door. How hard could that possibly be?


That really was the whole main focus, excessive force. We think the court saw it the way we do and not as police do, and we think the jury is going to see that way too,” said Kyle Biesecker, Mrs. Milan’s attorney.

On June 21, 2012, the EPD SWAT team was responding to anonymous internet posts that were apparently threatening to the police. Instead of investigating the threats, they haphazardly ordered a search warrant to Milan’s home where the IP address was traced. Having conducted no investigation about the occupants of the home, a dozen officers hastily geared up with AR-15s drawn, kicked in windows, threw flashbangs, and held an elderly woman and two children hostage while police tore apart their home.

After assaulting and endangering the lives of this innocent family and finding nothing, police finally conducted a brief investigation and found that the threats were issued by Milan’s neighbor, Derrick Murray. The following day, Murray was arrested and pleaded guilty to making the threats through piggybacking Milan’s open WiFi.

After city attorneys had attempted to protect the EPD from liability for the raid by claiming qualified immunity, a judge called them out for it. In his ruling, Judge Richard Posner wrote:



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eta appeals court decision


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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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I hate to say it....but homeowners would be in the right to defend their home from violent invasions like that. I know it happened in the past, with mixed judicial reults. But in that case, no one wins.

The use of SWAT in this case is the epitome of excessive force. And you can see that the officers definitely left an impression those kids.


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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: alienjuggalo

What are SWAT teams even used for these days? Ruining property and destroying lives? Why do SWAT teams need to show up to this kind of thing? It is a little bit overkill, but I see SWAT teams breaking into houses and harassing more and more people these days for less and less of a reason.

Think of the poor old lady having to pay to have her windows replaced, for one thing. I bet the police department doesn't pony up. What happened to sending a few officers over to knock on the door?
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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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Seriously handcuffing that little girl. WTF. These guys look as though they didnt get enough door smashing in Iraq. I hope something changes, maybe a civil suit brought against each person individually. I get the reason we need SWAT, but for a threat against the police dept, without anyone doing any checking, is a law suit waiting to happen, or worse loss of life to the family or the police. THis is shameful



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Glassbender777
Seriously handcuffing that little girl. WTF. These guys look as though they didnt get enough door smashing in Iraq. I hope something changes, maybe a civil suit brought against each person individually. I get the reason we need SWAT, but for a threat against the police dept, without anyone doing any checking, is a law suit waiting to happen, or worse loss of life to the family or the police. THis is shameful


Yep if that family would have had a dog.. Dead dog..



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: alienjuggalo
A judge has ordered body cam footage released of an Indiana swat team raid on the wrong house. There were threats posted to the police online so they tracked th ip address and raided the house it came back to.

Without any other due diligence, like finding out who lived in the house or checking if it was even anyone in that house, they just sent a swat team.

Turns it was their neighbor piggy-backing on their wi-fi. Of course police tried like hell to not have to release the video because god forbid they admit they completely effed up .

This is another one of those cases where the whole swat team and the dumbass judge that signed off on the warrant should be charged with a crime.

My god just a little due diligence before having 12 armed men kick in someones effing door. How hard could that possibly be?


That really was the whole main focus, excessive force. We think the court saw it the way we do and not as police do, and we think the jury is going to see that way too,” said Kyle Biesecker, Mrs. Milan’s attorney.

On June 21, 2012, the EPD SWAT team was responding to anonymous internet posts that were apparently threatening to the police. Instead of investigating the threats, they haphazardly ordered a search warrant to Milan’s home where the IP address was traced. Having conducted no investigation about the occupants of the home, a dozen officers hastily geared up with AR-15s drawn, kicked in windows, threw flashbangs, and held an elderly woman and two children hostage while police tore apart their home.

After assaulting and endangering the lives of this innocent family and finding nothing, police finally conducted a brief investigation and found that the threats were issued by Milan’s neighbor, Derrick Murray. The following day, Murray was arrested and pleaded guilty to making the threats through piggybacking Milan’s open WiFi.

After city attorneys had attempted to protect the EPD from liability for the raid by claiming qualified immunity, a judge called them out for it. In his ruling, Judge Richard Posner wrote:



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eta appeals court decision



Of course none of these cops will be charged with breaking and entering, kidnapping, or vandalism with a deadly weapon considering it is the wrong house..



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: IamInfinity

How about domestic terrorism?


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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: alienjuggalo

The appeals court decision was a good read. And that they didn't have a no-knock warrant?!?!

This is what is interesting: after at least 24 hours of surveillance from when they received the threats and when they raided the home, they say no one other than the 18 year old female and the 68 year old woman left or entered the home. And then SWAT raided it in the violent manner we saw. HOWEVER, the threats came from just a few doors down (and it appears they didn't even bother to investigate any possibility it could have come from elsewhere), from an individual KNOWN to have made threats against the police in the past and who had been CONVICTED of intimidating a police officer, and when they uncover that it was HE who had made the threats through unsecured Wi-fi, they did NOT send in SWAT, but rather went to his house and said, "hey, can you come down to the station?" That's what they should have done to Mrs. Milan instead of you know...raid her house with flash bangs and SWAT. WTF

Just Sick.


Murray, living two doors away from the Milan home and thus with ready access to Mrs. Milan’s open net-work, and the male Milans. The police neglect of Murray is almost incomprehensible. His past made him a prime sus-pect. A day of investigating him would have nailed him, as we know because a day of investigating—the day after the violent search of the home—did nail him.

It took them only a day to discover that it was indeed he who was responsible—he had used Mrs. Milan’s open network to threaten the police. But rather than give him the SWAT-team treatment, the police politely re-quested that he come to police headquarters, which he did, where he was arrested without incident. (He was prosecuted for the threats, pleaded guilty, and was given a sixteen-month prison sentence.) The police department’s kid-gloves treatment of Murray is in startling contrast to their flash- bang assault on Mrs. Milan’s home.



Precipitate use of flash bangs to launch a search has trou- bled us before, leading us to declare that “the use of a flash bang grenade is reasonable only when there is a dangerous suspect and a dangerous entry point for the police, when the police have checked to see if innocent individuals are around before deploying the device, when the police have visually inspected the area where the device will be used and when the police carry a fire extinguisher.”
Estate of Es-cobedo v. Bender , supra , 600 F.3d at 784–85.


THAT needs to be a precedent, because it seem flash bangs are thrown around irresponsibly all the time, and reminds me of when one was thrown into a baby's crib during a raid here in GA.

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:33 AM
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Basketball players want to basketball.
Fire fighters want to firefight.
Soldiers want to soldier.
Cops want to bust down doors, throw flash bangs and shoot people.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: alienjuggalo

So the morals are:

-Always password-protect your WiFi
-Conduct yourself absolutely calmly like these homeowners did so that you don't mistaken as aggressive and dangerous and possibly get shot
- Get those storm doors that have the safety glass so that this isn't as easy for the officer
- And last but not least, if you're a judge, PULL YOUR DAMN HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND ENSURE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO INVADE AND POTENTIALLY HARM AN INNOCENT FAMILY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS

Did I get all of them? At least the LEOs acted professionally during the assault.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: MrNeo

Basketball players want to basketball.
Fire fighters want to firefight.
Soldiers want to soldier.
Cops want to bust down doors, throw flash bangs and shoot people.


Funny thing...no one got shot.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

All that and then to just ask the real culprit to come down and turn himself in at his leisure.. Is that real? Wtf?



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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Are you serious? Is this a scene from the movie Idiocracy? If I was an American I would be much more afraid of the terror the police than actual terrorists! Will they have to pay for the damages caused to the persons home and will she have to go through even more hassle to get it?

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Yup just a mentally scarred child that will develop Anxiety Disorder anytime she sees a uniform.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:56 AM
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Hey looky that... no wonder that police department get threats posted online! With the release of that video, those SWAT guys are going to be at war with more threats!


It seems the police and SWAT have a total disconnect with reality....
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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: alienjuggalo

So the morals are:

-Always password-protect your WiFi
-Conduct yourself absolutely calmly like these homeowners did so that you don't mistaken as aggressive and dangerous and possibly get shot
- Get those storm doors that have the safety glass so that this isn't as easy for the officer
- And last but not least, if you're a judge, PULL YOUR DAMN HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND ENSURE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO INVADE AND POTENTIALLY HARM AN INNOCENT FAMILY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS

Did I get all of them? At least the LEOs acted professionally during the assault.



How about:

-do nothing wrong, expect a SWAT team to bust in your door.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: imitator

I don't really see this helping the police in the "we're the good guys" PR department.

It's getting really hard to view them in a positive light. The limited install of body cameras has shown a lot of things that would have been put in to question for so long they are forgotten or not reported at all.

They need charge the judge on this one as well since it was his call to preform the raid.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: IamInfinity

Another LEO situation in Greenfield, Ca. LEO'S broke a window, tossed in a flash-based granade, which landed on the sofa, started a fire in which an innocent man died.
After starting the fire, officers exited the burning house and waited for fire dept. to arrive.



Armed with a search warrant, the sheriff's SWAT team surrounded Serrato's house in a military-style operation Jan. 5, 2011, while looking for suspects in a New Year's shooting that wounded three outside the Mucky Duck bar in downtown Monterey.

It was later determined Serrato, 31, was not involved in the shooting and was unarmed in the house. After hailing him for an hour, the family's attorneys said, deputies broke a front window and tossed in the grenade to flush him out.

The device ignited a sofa and fire quickly spread. Instead of trying to help Serrato, who was emitting "anguished cries" and breaking windows, SWAT team members retreated to the transport vehicle, pointed rifles toward the home and awaited the fire department, the suit said.




source



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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Total incompetence. These guys brought a fire extinguisher but left it in their armored swat vehicle .


Precipitate use of flash bangs to launch a search has trou- bled us before, leading us to declare that “the use of a flash bang grenade is reasonable only when there is a dangerous suspect and a dangerous entry point for the police, when the police have checked to see if innocent individuals are around before deploying the device, when the police have visually inspected the area where the device will be used and when the police carry a fire extinguisher.”
Estate of Es-cobedo v. Bender
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supra
, 600 F.3d at 784–85. The police in this case flunked the test just quoted. True, they’d brought a fire extinguisher with them—but, as if in tribute to Mack Sen-nett’s Keystone Kops, they left it in their armored SWAT ve-hicle.

So while the defendants are correct to point out that a r



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Let's see what happens to a private citizen with ONE gun vs. a fully armed/armored SWAT team.

I'm sorry, I'm not into playing martyr. I want to live for another day.




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