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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Nova937
Oh yeah that guy. Said he saw loads of bodies after he said for at least 4 times prior there were no bodies and no plane wreckage! Did he decide to change his glasses? Or just his testimony after being told to.
You are trying to twist his words just like all the conspiracy sites do.
When he said no bodies most people know he means no complete bodies.
The only way conspiracy believers can make their beliefs work is to twist peoples words and facts.
Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified
Investigators have positively identified the remains of another 14 persons aboard United Airlines Flight 93 and Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said the investigation could conclude more quickly than expected.At the same time, the high winds that buffeted the area over the last few days have dislodged additional airplane parts -- seat cushions, wiring, carpet fragments and pieces of metal -- from trees near the crash site."It's all aircraft parts, no human remains," Miller said. "We've collected them in 10 recycling bin-sized containers and eventually we'll turn them all over to United."
Yesterday's confirmation of victims' identities by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology DNA lab in Rockville, Md., means that 34 of the 44 people who were aboard the jetliner crashed Sept. 11. have been identified.
4 more Flight 93 passengers identified
The Somerset County coroner said yesterday that officials have now identified the remains of 16 of the 44 passengers aboard United Airlines Flight 93, the plane that crashed into a former strip mine in rural Stonycreek Sept. 11.
The addition of four names to the list came through DNA sampling -- the first DNA matches made in the identification of remains, Coroner Wallace Miller said yesterday.
Identifications of remains of the first 12 passengers, made through the beginning of last week, was done using dental records and fingerprints. Investigators had exhausted that avenue and have since been relying exclusively on DNA, which will enable the coroner's office to identify more remains at a steady pace, Miller said.
originally posted by: samkent
If someone proved one of your sticking points that has prevented you from accepting the OS would you change your mind about the entire conspiracy?
Lets say Joe Schmoe's son is going through his deceased fathers things and finds a camcorder.
So he charges and hits play.
The tape was shot in DC and out the hotel window is the Pentagon and it clearly shows the plane hitting.
More debris is found between NYC buildings.
Again a camcorder.
This time it was shot on one of the planes clearly showing the hijackers doing their thing.
Would evidence like this stop your conspiracy in it's tracks?
And there's another thing. They found a bandanna and a hijacker's passport. Our passport office should change our passports to be made of the same stuff those apparent hijackers passports are made of. They are apparently indestructible!
With Shanlsville and the Pentagon there is no evidence of a plane and or bodies at the scene until later on when they plant evidence, photograph it, pass it to the Lamestream Media to report and sit back and watch the Gullible Sheeple take it all in.
They then as you do nod their heads and say 'Yeah it was Osama Bin Laden and 19 Muslim Hijackers that did it!'.
Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11
Usama bin Laden made his first televised appearance in more than a year Friday in which he admitted for the first time ordering the Sept. 11 attacks and accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people.
Injecting himself into the campaign four days ahead of the presidential election, bin Laden said the United States can avoid another Sept. 11-style attack if it stops threatening the security of Muslims.
In the portion of the tape that was broadcast, the Al Qaeda leader refrained from directly warning of new attacks, although he said "there are still reasons to repeat what happened."
Al-Qaeda statements after 9/11
Al-Qaeda's spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, said in a video sent to al Jazeera and broadcast in October 2001 the following:
The Americans should know that the storm of plane attacks will not abate, with God's permission.
Look at that Shanksville Video. No plane, No bodies, a 'Scar' shape that was already there and the only thing added was a smoking hole. A week or 2 later and there are coroner reports saying there were bodies after saying there were none, evidence of a plane starts coming out when on that day there was none!
Same sh*t as the Pentagon. No evidence of a plane, no videos
The mockery is the Official story and the sheeple that believe it. LaBTop in the other thread explains it to you better!
LaBTop in the other thread explains it to you better!
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
from the perspective of someone who has extensively researched both the conspiracies and the official story in my time i have noticed that many truthers hold their belief in the 9/11 false flag with the same commitment that a priest holds his belief in God.
Now not all truthers are like this so it does very much depend on the individual.
But there are many truthers who will spout the same debunked rubbish over and over again and no matter how much it is explained to them they will just keep going on about it.
The thing is what is debunked?
often hear some on this site talking about the "pentagons missing $2.3Trn" as a motivation stating that the attacks were used to cover this up in some way. Thats utter crap.
The Pentagon and the $2.3 Trillion
The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
Accounting for the $2.3 Trillion
Billions of dollars of DoD taxpayer-provided money haven't disappeared, Zakheim said. "Missing" expenditures are often reconciled a bit later in the same way people balance their checkbooks every month. The bank closes out a month and sends its bank statement, he said. In the meanwhile, people write more checks, and so they have to reconcile their checkbook register and the statement.
DoD financial experts, Zakheim said, are making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. And, he added, the amount continues to drop.
Just like saying WTC-7 fell at free fall speed into its own footprint,...
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: skyeagle409
yup there are quite a few statements that truthers will make because they heard it in a documentary or read about it online that are really huge mistakes or in some cases have been entirely fabricated but which they hold to be true because these "facts" fit with their cognitive bias towards 9/11
And where did the Sheeple get their info from? Santa Claus? The Terror Government? The Orchestrator's of this event?
originally posted by: loveguy
I'd ask for an actual piece of wtc concrete flooring with pan to do the test, best there wasn't anything left to test?