If Someone Proved one point Would Accept the rest?

Were you aware that all three of your videos have been debunked. BTW,. the sound effects of your second video was added and you fell for it.

Sounds just like the first one, unless the reporter is making it up.. as for as the last how do you debunk the firefighters..

and BTW showing photos of plane parts is not evidence, they could have come from anywhere.. The fact of the matter is the truth movement would not have become what it is if there is nothing to it..

If anyone or thing is flawed it is you, I have already said some of what you said is correct however since you cannot find anything flawed about the OS I will stick with the fact you are , well I will leave that up to ATS members.


We are done sir...

a reply to: wildb

Sounds just like the first one, unless the reporter is making it up..

He perceived the sound as an explosion, which is not evidence of explosives and I heard the sound as well, but i knew that was not the result of explosives because I have heard bomb explosions hundreds of time in war to know what real explosives sound like and remember, firefighters who reported hearing explosions later attributed the sounds they heard to things that had nothing to do with explosives, such as pancaking floors. Even the sound of falling elevators were reported as bomb explosions until it was determined that the sounds were generated when the elevators slammed into the floor.

The fact of the matter is the truth movement would not have become what it is if there is nothing to it..

Let's take a look at what has happened to the Truth Movement over the years.

Disinformation Killed 9/11 “Truth”

By 2009, the 9/11 “Truth” Movement was so inundated with disinformation that it had become a laughingstock. The easily-discredited claims (lies) contaminated the greater issue and soiled dissenters across the board. “Turd blossom” was a Karl Rove phrase that could describe what the movement had devolved into. The media, whether corporate or foundation-funded, could find people ranting about “the Jews” or the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the missiles, holograms, mini-nukes or space beam weapons vaporizing the Twin Towers.

Many trolls, and some public personalities, appeared to be professional disinformation artists hard at work concocting and posting this crap online, which others repeated to their own detriment. One cannot easily prove that a specific person is a paid shill, a disinformation agent, a cyber agent provocateur, but be assured they are out there, and “out there.”

DISINFORMATION TO DISCREDIT

Author Thomas Pynchon wrote, “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” I’ll go one better and in the process explain modern cyber disinformation: If they can get you asking stupid questions, then their lapdog media can dismiss you as a “nut.”

www.911truth....lled-911-truth...

Now, you know why the Truth Movement is now a big joke.

BTW showing photos of plane parts is not evidence, they could have come from anywhere..

False! Over 90% of the wreckage from United 93 was recovered from the crash site of United 93 and no where else.

Photo: United 93 Engine

...
as for as the last how do you debunk the firefighters.

Because the same firefighters who heard explosions are the same firefighters who later attributed the sound of explosions to things that had nothing to do with explosives. A year ago, a replay of the NBC news report was played on TV. In the replay the reporter reported that firefighters said the explosions they heard were from exploding gas lines.

In addtion, exploding gas tanks from vehicles on fire could have been expected as well.

If anyone or thing is flawed it is you,

That is false because the valid references I used to debunked your hoaxed videos and flawed references are verifiable as accurate and viable. Your problem lies in the fact that you didn't bother to do any homework, which would have made you aware that your videos were hoaxed and your references are flawed, which would have pointed out the fact that what the reporter heard, was not the result of explosives.

The fact that you posted that hoaxed video of the WTC Tower as it collapsed was another clue that you are not in the habit of doing homework and instead, relied on websites that are well-known for spewing disinformation and lies.

Question is, how do you know that hoaxed video was not planted in order to discredit the Truth Movement?

a reply to: Informer1958

Damage control is a cover up. Ben Laden had nothing to do with 911,...

Of course Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Countries around the globe had warned the United States that bin Laden and al-Qaeda would attack America with hijacked aircraft. Let's take one example:

Taliban Warns United States of Osama bin Laden Attack

In late July 2001, Afghanistan’s Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil learned that Osama bin Laden was planning a “huge attack” on targets inside America.

The attack was imminent, and would kill thousands, he learned from the leader of the rebel Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, which was closely allied with al-Qaeda at the time. Muttawakil sent an emissary to pass this information on to the US Consul General, and another US official, “possibly from the intelligence services.”

Sources confirmed that this message was received, but supposedly not taken very seriously, because of “warning fatigue” arising from too many terror warnings. [Independent, 9/7/02, Reuters, 9/7/02]

www.historycommons.org...


Taliban Warns of Osama bin Laden Attack on America

On October 4, 2001, British Prime Minister Tony Blair released information compiled by Western intelligence agencies connecting Osama bin Laden to the Afghanistan's Taliban leadership as well as being the leader of the al-Qaeda organization. The Taliban government gave safe haven to Osama bin Laden in the years leading up to the attack, and his al-Qaeda network may have had a close relationship with the Taliban army and police.

According to the BBC, the Taliban later even warned the U.S. that bin Laden was going to launch an attack on American soil. Former Taliban foreign minister Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said his warnings, issued because of concerns that the U.S. would react by waging war against Afghanistan, had been ignored.

www.number-10...ut...


Taliban 'warned US of huge attack'

n aide to the former Taleban foreign minister, Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, has revealed that he was sent to warn American diplomats and the United Nations that Osama bin Laden was due to launch a huge attack on American soil.

news.bbc.co.u...sia...

So, even the Taliban issued a warning that Osama bin Laden would attack the United States.

...
the fact is he was not wanted on the FBI 10 most wanted for 911. Stop spreading disinformation.

Let's take a nother look that you are unaware of because you didn't bother to any homework, so I had to do it for you.

FBI Website: Most Wanted Terrorist Dead Bin Laden Killed in ‘Targeted Operation’

05/02/11

The mastermind of the attacks on September 11, 2001 that killed thousands of innocent men, women, and children has been killed.

Intelligence agencies quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by bin Laden’s terrorist organization, and in October 2001, his name was added to the U.S. Department of State’s Most Wanted Terrorists List.

www.fbi.gov...

Now, that was from the FBI.