Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a Creator to the universe. Come debate me.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: 321Go

Ok I'll play let's follow the evolution allowed for by creation until we are at the great great great grand daddy all the way back to its origin...

Let's call it the original kfc chicken supreme the ultimate Big Crunch...

what Came first the ultimate Big Crunch Chicken or the ultimate Big Crunch chicken egg???

a reply to: Mugly

you would of course be wrong again...

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Annee

Nothing can not create friction

Nothing can not create a spark

Nothing can not create heat

Small things are still not nothing...

Nothing is the absence of all things...

You are the one that keeps harping on Nothingness.

Science has been presented to you that space is not completely void.

You want to take that tiny bit of "flash" in the "vacuum of space" as proof of a Creator.

You're grasping at straws. You have nothing but belief.

Now, you're saying you aren't here to prove God/Creator. But, that's what the thread is about. So, why are you here?

Why is space a vacuum ?

Because, given enough time, gravity tends to make matter clump together. Events like supernovae that spread it out again are relatively rare. Also space is big. Maybe someone could calculate the density if visible matter were evenly distributed in visible space. I imagine it would be pretty thin. physics.stackexchange.com...

a reply to: Annee

there you go putting words in my mouth again...

Or in other words lying...

I said that is proof that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum and that nothing can not create anything...

That is of course unless you are the supreme being aka God existing beyond the laws which govern creation...

oracle, i have another question
why do you keep referring to god as he?

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Annee

there you go putting words in my mouth again...

Or in other words lying...

I said that is proof that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum and that nothing can not create anything...

That is of course unless you are the supreme being aka God existing beyond the laws which govern creation...

I know this game. It's called Mirror. I'm done "playing" it.

You are not presenting anything of value to support your position of belief.

a reply to: Mugly

Because before men made war like male gods people referred to her as she.
God was mostly a girl before evil men made up the Abrahamic religions.
I think she is more of a she...super hot also .
But I don't know and will not have the gall to claim I know.

a reply to: Mugly

because I choose to...

Male still is the dominant factor in the replication of things...

but really if you once again would have read the thread you would see I have already answered this question...

I can try to refer to God as they or the Creator if that is easier for you to comprehend...

originally posted by: Mugly
oracle, i have another question
why do you keep referring to god as he?

I think he mentioned somewhere along the line that God/Creator is genderless.

I think that makes God/Creator an "it".

a reply to: boymonkey74

Oh and it was done to take power away from women.
Keep them silent like the bible wants.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Mugly

because I choose to...

Male still is the dominant factor in the replication of things...

but really if you once again would have read the thread you would see I have already answered this question...

I can try to refer to God as they or the Creator if that is easier for you to comprehend...

trying the best i can. i have not read every post in a 57 page thread though.
can you refer to god as the fictional being?
that would make it much easier for me to comprehend

a reply to: boymonkey74

what world do you live in?

Women...truly not the entire world over,but for the most part rule the world ...
because even if it is from their own household hold claim the lions share of power in this day and age...

And I do believe behind every man stands an even better woman...

And men who struggle can lay part of the blame on their not so good woman...

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: boymonkey74

Oh and it was done to take power away from women.
Keep them silent like the bible wants.

There is a big push to create Gender Neutral pronouns.

Its been around for a long time, but with focus on "gender differences" its picking up steam again.

One suggestion is to drop the "h" and "sh" and just use the letter "e".

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Yeah then explain why women have been second class citizens for years.
They only got to vote in the last hundred years.
Many religions including yours demonise women.
Eve for example.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle

I said that is proof that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum and that nothing can not create anything...

That is of course unless you are the supreme being aka God existing beyond the laws which govern creation...

An absolute vacuum would be outside of our universe, so there can be such a thing, and it is funny that you suggest nothing can not create anything, well unless you are God...How does this differ in on your side you suggest intelligent design can, and on the other it is suggested non-intelligent design can.

We can basically say that EVERYTHING outside our universe exists beyond the laws which govern creation within our universe.

a reply to: Annee

So we just call it "e" its right Yorkshire that.

Eee by gum.

originally posted by: Annee

One suggestion is to drop the "h" and "sh" and just use the letter "e".

How about "it"? Or just make everything plural...hehe

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: 5StarOracle

Yeah then explain why women have been second class citizens for years.
They only got to vote in the last hundred years.
Many religions including yours demonise women.
Eve for example.

Religion is a major factor in women being 2nd class. Many religions are patriarchal.

Its unfortunate that many women in religion perpetuate this.

Back to creation is spontaneous.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Anything outside our universe not created by our creator ok...

Anything in our universe not created by our creator not...

originally posted by: Annee

Religion is a major factor in women being 2nd class. Many religions are patriarchal.

I think you can just blame it on our evolutionary traits where women are physically smaller, weaker and less aggressive than their male counter parts. We see with many other species the female is the same or even larger than the male and then they are the dominate side.

So with or without religion it has basically been the same unless a situation comes a long where the woman is equal or better than the males.