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Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a Creator to the universe. Come debate me.

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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I suppose so...

the Alpha and The Omega...

the smallest and largest...



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Annee

I suppose so...

the Alpha and The Omega...

the smallest and largest...



So basically, several of us have provided scientific proof of Space Vacuum that spontaneously creates.

You say: "God is" - - and that's it.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: Annee

It is your quote which backs me up stating " a vacuum is never completely Empty"...

Not empty = no creation from nothing...

Perhaps you didn't read that or maybe you don't understand what u read...



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
I have lived on my own since 16...
I earn over 300k a year
I am a contractor residential as well as commercial construction wood framework/timber frame
I know enough...


I just feel I should give you some applause for being able to have such a lucrative and profitable career at the age of 17 which allows you to post on forums like this for so many days in a row. That is like a fantasy job in construction.


I imagine it all probably doesn't allow you extra time to further your education which is a shame because you seem to be interested I some of the sciences and education would certainly help you grasp some of concepts you are trying to talk about.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

I'm my own boss, I have a phone...

I do not always have to be the one doing the tasks at hand, although it's boring and not as lucrative to not be hands on...

I do have enough time to entertain my self if I so choose...

And I am not the one introducing scientific concepts I do not understand...

it's not my fault they want to pretend their vacuum is empty when it is admitting a vacuum is never completely empty...

Not empty = something else there
Not creation from nothing...
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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Annee

It is your quote which backs me up stating " a vacuum is never completely Empty"...

Not empty = no creation from nothing...

Perhaps you didn't read that or maybe you don't understand what u read...


The out of context "pick and choose" you keep trying to use is not helping your argument. The information provided says a lot more - - - that you choose to ignore.

The OP - - is about proof. Where is yours?



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Annee

A vacuum is never completely empty...

Already in existence...

No creation from nothing...

I'll pick what I see to offer up evidence but you will still believe in your delusions...

But still be wrong...



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:14 PM
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nm

Already got an off-topic "hand slap" today. One's enough for me

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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:14 PM
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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

Obviously you are not going to try to prove your side of the "debate".

I'm kinda tired of the Merry-go-round.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Too bad for your brother...

he must not be a business owner, I was not even that busy last year...

My lowest paid man earned over 50k
My highest paid man earned over 100k

How is this relevant to creation...
Or your not completely empty vacuum?



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: Blue_Jay33




An atheist that believes in an afterlife, now that is ironic.


Whats strange about that...or do you get to tell people what they may or not believe? I don't think you know the meaning of irony by the way.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
I just feel I should give you some applause for being able to have such a lucrative and profitable career at the age of 17 which allows you to post on forums like this for so many days in a row. That is like a fantasy job in construction.


Must be one of those paid trolls people are always complaining about.

Not that I'm accusing him of being a paid shill of course, I just jest.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
this is how God is defined the number one reference...

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the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.

I believe this to be accurate because nobody can show me a credible example of how things pop into existence in this universe from Nothing that is the keyword...

I say this is evidence of a creator who has set in motion all things in the universe and has even allowed for things to evolve or progress in his creation...

I say all things are bound by the rules set in place which govern his creation...

this is why I have said he therefore would have to exist outside of his creation because, thus he is not bound by the same rules of its confines...

he can therefore not be judged by these rules and can therefore have no need of being created as all things in the universe...

I have said your soul is eternal I did not say it had no origin perhaps eternal is not the best word because I believe it has an origin, I just believe it has no end...

not have I said your soul originated here in this universe nor have I said it will remain in this universe when the connection is severed from your physical being...


This is on topic...



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: JuJuBee




PROOF is ALL AROUND US!


Ah nature/flowers - Pantheism...you heretic!



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: WakeUpBeer

If at 17 I had to choose between higher education and a construction job that paid 300k a year I would have skipped out on learning the sciences as well.


Considering that then it is understandable why the conversation isn't going anywhere and opinion keeps on being presented as evidence.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

I understand.

I'm just not interested in his chest beating or even sure why it came up.



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I was asked and replied no real mystery and sorry if you have taken it for more than that...

I suppose I should be proud of myself... but truth is... I can and will do better...



posted on Aug, 8 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Grimpachi

I understand.

I'm just not interested in his chest beating or even sure why it came up.

This.




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