Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a Creator to the universe. Come debate me.

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Then I would completely agree with you for the most part.

a reply to: InTheLight

You are strange indeed you say I don't believe and then you ask for an epiphany from me???

Do you portend to know all things or nothing at all?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Congratulations on your evolution!

And thanks for being a man...

a reply to: 321Go

now wait just min you have done little to convince me because where I come birth is derived by parents...

Therefore we must go back further...

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

what if I told you I agree man is to blame for the poor job all religions do at representing him and defining him...

..

Then I would ask why didn't god do a better job making him/her/itself know to us?

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

what If I told you that we once dwelled amongst him, and that through a grave error we removed from his presence and this is where we ended up...

Remember I have already said God exists outside of the universe his creation...

I also asked another if we were ready to move onto extra dimensions...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

I would say - so what? What does that mean?

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

It's the reason he is not so well known to us...
We are removed from his presence...
That's what it means...
Is that easier to understand?
It also means we are no longer what we once were because we lost something when we were moved from him into this plane of existence...
So it also means it's our fault not his...
the action removed us see because we were no longer pure...
And could no longer exist there...
And that is scientific law there let's put it that way...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

I am still wondering why this supposed god would allow that to happen? Why didn't he/she/it do a better job in design? Why not a better job communicating purpose and requirements?

Your statements are articles of faith - not answers to my questions.

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

when he created us in his image and allowed for us to make our own decisions and we also knew we would be held accountable for doing so then how is it a fault?

That's what he chose to do...

I know he also made allowances for just such an occasion after all here we are...

So you see I am answering you after all you just don't like my answers because it is opposed to your beliefs...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

Any statement that starts with "If...." answers itself.

I don't like or dislike your "answers" - I just don't believe they are evidence of anything except perhaps your own faith.

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

I'm not talking about my religious beliefs, science believes in extra dimensions don't ask me for proof I can't go there and bring you any back...

I'm just trying to show you what I believe to be evidence of creation and doing what I can to offer up food for thought if not evidence...

But beware...

when you can admit to a creator of the universe you can no longer be an atheist for the creator is God by definition...

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

And come on...

You like them just a lil bit...

It's ok...

You can still dislike me...

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

what if I told you I agree man is to blame for the poor job all religions do at representing him and defining him...

..

Then I would ask why didn't god do a better job making him/her/itself know to us?

When a man hits on a woman, a decent woman doesn't just drop her panties and say go for it does she? Excuse the brash analogy, but God is going to make sure someone has good intentions before he allows them to know him.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle

. . . when you can admit to a creator of the universe you can no longer be an atheist for the creator is God by definition...

Sorry, but you don't dictate God to me.

Creation, not Creator.

a reply to: Annee

Explain how creation is created without a creator...

More non sense...

a reply to: 5StarOracle

What evolution? My opinion hasn't changed on anything.

a reply to: TheChrome

A particularly offensive analogy.

And still doesn't answer why did n't god do a better job of creation?

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Annee

Explain how creation is created without a creator...

More non sense...

Why does a creator have to be god?

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

And come on...

You like them just a lil bit...

It's ok...

You can still dislike me...

I don't like or dislike you either - I have no idea who you are.

And your answers still are not answers - they are statements of faith.