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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 11:37 AM by wraith30
Originally posted by sleeper

So you are saying that America should have stayed out of Hitler’s way?

America should have let the Soviet Union swallow up Europe?

When should America get involved?----After the world has went to hell in a hand basket?

Have you seen what is out in the world? Haiti, the Middle East, Africa, China, South America.

America is by “virtue of the gods” the one place that reason prevails and is the only country in the position to referee in this quagmire of madness engulfing much of the world.

Or you can stay in your protective bubble, and pretend that the world can live in harmony as soon as the Age of Aquarius kicks in.



Did you happen to forget about the fact that the USSR saved our butts in WWII by defending Staligrad and preventing Hitler from havign a staging ground to attack from the east? I dont suppose the UK even had anythign to do with the successfull campain against the Axis either...

When shoudl the USA get involved? well that would depend on how you mean involved.. if you mean by preemptivy striking at countries simply because we dont loike the way they run their country? I would say never. If you mean by supplying diplomatic influince, santions, and political strength to prevent outbreaks of violence and stop potential wars theni woudl say when it is needed. If you mean acting with the world community to give aid to countries who have suffered sevier natural disasters so that we can try and rebuild national relations.. well apparently Bush feels that his vacation is more important than that.

Yes I have infact seen what is out in the rest of the world, Sweedan, Iceland, France, Canada, Japan, India, Nepal. What is facinating is the ammount of mass instability created by Bush's actions in the name of freedom. Much like Hitler claiming his actions were in the name of god and the good of germany, or the Inquisition acting in the name of god, or the Crusaids actign int eh name of god, Funny how it all was really in the name of power, influince, and wealth.

America is the only place in the world where reason prevails..... ...... If you honestly believe this then there really is no point in pointing out historical, political, or socio-economic facts, quotes, or numbers because you will blindly believe what you are told to believe.

Ohhh and BTW... astronomicly I believe we have already entered the age of Aquarious for a number of years.


reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 04:51 PM by Kageki
Originally posted by sleeper

So you are saying that America should have stayed out of Hitler’s way?

America should have let the Soviet Union swallow up Europe?

When should America get involved?----After the world has went to hell in a hand basket?

Have you seen what is out in the world? Haiti, the Middle East, Africa, China, South America.


I think its worth mentioning that there were some people in the US that supported Hitler, basically bunch of right-wingers. William Randolph Hearst and the IBM corporation come to mind. Some people argue that Germany alone could have never been that successful if it weren't for outside help. Go figure. I doubt any liberals would say we should have stayed out of WWII, but the US did wait until they saw that even Britain was in danger of being conquered.

The whole, have you seen what is out there quote is amusing. Are you implying the US should invade all those countries you listed? That's alot of work you conservatives have made out for yourselves. You do realize that the dictator Allende had the blessing of the US right? Also why didn't the US invade Indonesia under the Suharto regime, but instead supplied them with arms and military training? I'm glad you say the Middle East and not Iraq, Iran or Syria because according to Bush we really should be taking over that entire region and convert them all to christianity as Ann Coulter have stated. I don't think liberals are necessarily against the idea of war, but see the hypocrisy in US foreign policy.

Off course the left do not want to see terrorists here, but like Kerry said we should be fighting a smarter war. Tell me, has the war on terror under Bush Sr. had any effect? Or even the war on drugs? Kerry was one of the originators of pursuing the terrorist by freezing their financial assets which proved to be very effective. The recent Pentagon report states we should be employing more psy-ops. This is what the left is saying. Did the "shock and awe" campaign do anything to mitigate the insurgency? Didn't seem so. Don't forget that Bush Sr. didn't reign in Saddam when he had the chance because there was no "viable exit strategy" at the time. Whoa did Pappa Bush sound like a lefty there?


reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 05:28 PM by cargo
A SECRET HISTORY - The harassment of Italians during World War II has particular relevance today and serves as a warning of what could happen.


Al Bronzini's father lost his business and his mother lost her mind. Rose Scudero and her mother were exiled. Doris Giuliotti's father ended up in an internment camp. And Anita Perata's husband was held in a detention center and her house ransacked by the FBI.

They don't want reparations, apologies or pity. They simply want the history books rewritten to say that, almost 60 years ago, it was a crime to be Italian.

During World War II, 600,000 undocumented Italian immigrants in the United States were deemed "enemy aliens" and detained, relocated, stripped of their property or placed under curfew. A couple hundred were even locked in internment camps.

It's not something most people know about.

"This story has legs because people are so stunned that this happened to the Italians," said writer Lawrence DiStasi of Bolinas, part of a group of Bay Area Italian Americans who have led a nationwide campaign to exhume this chapter of American history.

"And we want to educate our own people, too, not just the rest of the public," DiStasi said. "Because if you don't know what happened to you, then in a certain sense you don't know who you are."

The past year has been pivotal. After almost six decades of virtual silence, the issue has acquired a timeliness and sense of urgency - even more so since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the United States and subsequent backlash against people of Middle Eastern ancestry.



reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 09:40 PM by sleeper
Originally posted by cargo
A SECRET HISTORY - The harassment of Italians during World War II has particular relevance today and serves as a warning of what could happen.


Al Bronzini's father lost his business and his mother lost her mind. Rose Scudero and her mother were exiled. Doris Giuliotti's father ended up in an internment camp. And Anita Perata's husband was held in a detention center and her house ransacked by the FBI.

They don't want reparations, apologies or pity. They simply want the history books rewritten to say that, almost 60 years ago, it was a crime to be Italian.

During World War II, 600,000 undocumented Italian immigrants in the United States were deemed "enemy aliens" and detained, relocated, stripped of their property or placed under curfew. A couple hundred were even locked in internment camps.

It's not something most people know about.

"This story has legs because people are so stunned that this happened to the Italians," said writer Lawrence DiStasi of Bolinas, part of a group of Bay Area Italian Americans who have led a nationwide campaign to exhume this chapter of American history.

"And we want to educate our own people, too, not just the rest of the public," DiStasi said. "Because if you don't know what happened to you, then in a certain sense you don't know who you are."

The past year has been pivotal. After almost six decades of virtual silence, the issue has acquired a timeliness and sense of urgency - even more so since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the United States and subsequent backlash against people of Middle Eastern ancestry.

I'm Italian but the fact is Italy, Germany and Japan declared war on America.

Although most Italians Germans and Japanese in America were not spies the few that were posed a real danger-----the stakes were high in WW2---the Axis powers were a real peril to all the countries in the world----America had to do what it had to do to win that war.

The war on terror is a serious one, more so because much of the world has no intention of doing anything about it-----if only Hitler had it so easy, the world would be a much different place today.

If America doesn't prevail the world will be a much different one in a few years.

By the looks of your posts you are probably counting on it.
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