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Is Conservatism a Mental Illness?

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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Liberals and conservatives are like salt and pepper.
To much of one ruins your steak, but the right balance makes it perfect.
To bad both sides are to thick headed to understand that.


Exactly.

There needs to be balance with all things.

No one wants a single party state do they?




posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: luciddream
Ill probably be worried about those that watch Fox news, cleaning their gun to shoot the next target laid out by Fox.



Fox doesn't have enough viewers to be a threat to society.

It's the viewers that watch the Big3 Networks that are the problem.

ABC, CBS, and NBC have the "lion's" share of the propaganda outlet complex.

And they are free as opposed to cable.




posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 10:58 AM
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Conservatism - derived from the word 'conserve' (to protect, retain, preserve) - denotes and ideology which spurns progression in favour of stagnation; fear instead of understanding; confrontation instead of resolution.

It is no coincidence that conservatives are usually intolerant, insular, close-minded, religious, bellicose, fear mongering et al.. The ideology attracts this very demographic of mindset, nurtures its prejudices and propagates them.

Conservatism is the opposite and anathema of progressivism.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: artnut
I guess our founding Fathers were mentally ill then. I think most of the people that helped found the country were conservative, it took incredible fortitude to survive colonization. Just like growing a business. I know a lot of successful business owners who are conservative, they seem pretty normal to me. I fall somewhere in the middle of the political divide, but I have met crazies in both parties.


Actually they varied a lot.

Some would be what you would call conservatives and other would have been progressive for that time period.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I don't know if it's a mental illness or not but I have observed that conservatives have a tendency to listen to the radio and hear someone like Rush and magically transform the radio program into what they see as original thought. Never even thinking to give Rush credit. They thought they came up with the ideas on their own. curious....

Listen to Rush then check out the threads on ATS...itso, itso....


Just like lIberals listen to Obama, Ernest, MSNBC, Huff Post, Politico to come to their conclusions about the issues! Both sides listen to what they want to hear to validate their ideology!

Personally Im a conservative but I like listening to MSNBC, CNN, and reading Huffington post and other left leaning news sources. Maybe I'm weird but it helps me to look at both sides and confirm or re assess my position on the issue's!

As of late the amount of MSM coverage for a lion at th expense of PP is really bugging me! Like seriously wtf does a died Lion thousands of miles away have to do with the multitude of other issue's?


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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: olaru12
I don't know if it's a mental illness or not but I have observed that conservatives have a tendency to listen to the radio and hear someone like Rush and magically transform the radio program into what they see as original thought. Never even thinking to give Rush credit. They thought they came up with the ideas on their own. curious....

Listen to Rush then check out the threads on ATS...itso, itso....


Just like lIberals listen to Obama, Ernest, MSNBC, Huff Post, Politico to come to their conclusions about the issues! Both sides listen to what they want to hear to validate their ideology!

Personally Im a conservative but I like listening to MSNBC, CNN, and reading Huffington post and other left leaning news sources. Maybe I'm weird but it helps me to look at both sides and confirm or re assess my position on the issue's!

As of late the amount of MSM coverage for a lion at th expense of PP is really bugging me! Like seriously wtf does a died Lion thousands of miles away have to do with the multitude of other issue's?



That is very true. People want the comfort and the affirmation of their own biases and opinions, because anything else scares the hell out of them and "does not computer."

I have noticed, however, that one side of the fence tends to be so rabidly against *anything* that doesn't fit in with their beliefs that they will not even *consider* alternatives, while the other side is usually at least *open* to considering an alternative(if that alternative is at least reasonable), and not simply waiting for a chance to denounce it.

I've seen all of that first hand.

******

Looking at a variety of sources is good. I don't watch those big media channels (none of them) but I do read stuff from all of them. And I notice clear biases in reporting.

As far as the lion stuff, although I think it's certainly terrible, the coverage is simply the flavor of the week meant to occupy and sedate the masses, as the media are wont to do: see cait jenner, baby prince what's his name and his "burfday", the crap over PP that the right is using as a crusade, and a host of other crap that is beaten into the ground while more important things are happening.
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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Liquesence

If you're comfortable in your ideology, does it matter what someone else calls you?


No, I don't care at all. But if by being comfortable in my ideology I try to change things that negatively affects others by making them conform to mine (both right and left), then there is a problem.


Then you're in luck.

The liberal/socialist/progressives are running things.



And conservatives are trying to ruin things for people when it doesn't affect them at all. Why do conservatives seem to care so much about what other people do when it doesn't affect them?


If someone tries to kill someone else, I have no say in the matter, but on a moral basis, I try to step in because sometimes, it's the right thing to do.


So what about the whole, you know, gay marriage thing? That comes to mind.


When have I ever been against that?

Please show me where I said that I am against gay marriage.

I'll wait.


Never said you were.

But conservatives in general are up in arms against it, including most of the presidential candidates. That's the point.


no they are not.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Liquesence

If you're comfortable in your ideology, does it matter what someone else calls you?


No, I don't care at all. But if by being comfortable in my ideology I try to change things that negatively affects others by making them conform to mine (both right and left), then there is a problem.


Then you're in luck.

The liberal/socialist/progressives are running things.



And conservatives are trying to ruin things for people when it doesn't affect them at all. Why do conservatives seem to care so much about what other people do when it doesn't affect them?


If someone tries to kill someone else, I have no say in the matter, but on a moral basis, I try to step in because sometimes, it's the right thing to do.


So what about the whole, you know, gay marriage thing? That comes to mind.


When have I ever been against that?

Please show me where I said that I am against gay marriage.

I'll wait.


Never said you were.

But conservatives in general are up in arms against it, including most of the presidential candidates. That's the point.


no they are not.


You're seriously saying that hard-line conservatives and the majority of their presidential candidates are *not* against gay marriage?

You're seriously saying that?

I've seen and heard it first hand. With my own eyes and ears.

Or are they just the "minority?"



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: Liquesence

I don't know any hard liners. Do they still exist? If so they are in the minority when it comes to social issues,

Now I know a lot of very conservative people that vote democrat .

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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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I can't help but feel the broader, more important aspect of this topic is being missed.

It's not that conservatism is a mental disorder in and of itself, it's that those with mental issues or other problems are attracted to conservatism. Better yet, they are attracted to the Republican party as it stands today, and conservatism has very little to do with the Republican party.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Is that why all the asylums are closing up?




posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Truth is not an idea. It is fact and no one person can take credit for it. Take global warming for example. NOAA changes history by changing temperatures from data taken 30 years ago and claims the earth is heating up. That is not truth. NOAA can take credit for that and no one in their right mind would try to steal that idea as their own. Truth is that the earth is not heating up and the data was changed. That has been widely reported in the scientific world. No one person can take credit for that....it is just fact.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Liquesence

Again, I don't think you know as much about conservatives as you've been told.



I know what I see. Daily. On a massive scale.

And I also know my entire family is rabid conservative.

Hence, I know what I see, not what people tell me.


I could tell you about some of the things I see from liberals, daily, on a massive scale too. Do you know why I ask if people are going to be there marching me and mine to the trains someday? It's prompted by what I see from them.


Oh yes, the whole "marching to the trains for a free ride to the Hillary camps." Get real.
Good night.


You were the one who tarred and feathered conservatives with the brand of online ugliness. I mentioned what I did because I was pointing out that liberals are equally ugly.

You cannot take a moral high ground on that score.


This fact has never kept you from taking the moral high ground in whatever you post.

Besides that, how childish. "Don't play with your excrement, Mary!" ... "But Mom, Johnny was doing it too!"

/boyiwishwehadaneyeroll


*yawn*

You bore me.

If we're talking about religion or those kinds of issues, then talking about morality is kind of implicit. Whether or not I assign those specific morals to myself is another story.


Then our feelings are approximately mutual, except that I find you generally hypocritical as well as boring.

I say hypocritical because just as in this thread you take a position of superiority, but then when you're called on it, you do nothing but mutter off in relatively meaningless sentences like this post. If you're a relativist, why not say so, and further, why not at least make your "ATS Personna" fit your statements and supposed "values."

If you're not a relativist, and your actual beliefs are as transient and or pliable as your argumentation style here ...

Actually, nevermind. I have a proposal, let's just ignore each other from here on out as we find each other equally repellent.

Deal?


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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: introvert

Is that why all the asylums are closing up?





Nope, you have President Reagan to thank for that.

Just keep saying to yourself ... "there is no such thing as mental illness, and if there is, I don't want none of my tax dollars going to help the crazies."



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
I can't help but feel the broader, more important aspect of this topic is being missed.

It's not that conservatism is a mental disorder in and of itself, it's that those with mental issues or other problems are attracted to conservatism. Better yet, they are attracted to the Republican party as it stands today, and conservatism has very little to do with the Republican party.



You raise an important point.

Let's look at this again:



Dr. James Whitney Hicks discusses 50 signs of mental illness (link is external) including denial, delusion, hallucination, disordered thinking, anger, anti-social behavior, sexual preoccupation, grandiosity, general oddness, and paranoia. Now I'm no clinician, but in my (admittedly biased brown) eyes it seems that prominent Republicans have evidenced each of these ten telltale signs of mental illness over the past year:

1) Denial: humans did not evolve (link is external); Obama is not a native-born American Christian (link is external)

2) Delusion: climate is not changing (link is external)

3) Hallucination: God ordained me to be President (link is external)

4) Disordered Thinking: being for small government that's huge in the bedroom (link is external); being anti-contraception and anti-abortion (link is external)

5) Anger: Newt Gingrich’s perpetual scowl (link is external)

6) Anti-social Behavior: toward women (link is external), gays (link is external), minorities, anyone without an umbilical cord or trust fund

7) Sexual Preoccupation: a fervent compulsion to control when we can mate, with whom we can mate, and precisely how we are allowed to mate (which I lampoon in Why Do Politicians Want to Police Dick and Jane's Private Parts?)

8) Grandiosity: even Rick Santorum recognizes (link is external) Gingrich’s “over the moon” grandiosity (link is external)

9) General Oddness: Ron Paul (link is external)

10) Paranoia: pretty much all of them, all of the time (link is external)

Even (the not necessarily dumb (link is external)) Pope Francis appears to recognize (link is external) that “it is a serious illness, this of ideological [conservative] Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

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That list was supposed to be humorous, but some of those mental attributes are very attractive to the mentally unstable.

I have yet to hear about a "NWO mass murderer, killing in the name of a one-world government". I have yet to see a mass murderer going around killing racists.

Paranoia, anti-social behavior and fear are all very "conservative" attributes, and all of these can be found in people that snap. You don't see someone with a lot of compassion for people they don't know going on a killing spree.

Liberals are generally more inclined to want to help people they don't know, and not be xenophobic to outsiders.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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There a lot of very conservative people that vote democrat, you figure it out.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Thank you. You have summed it up nicely.


originally posted by: Stormdancer777
There a lot of very conservative people that vote democrat, you figure it out.


Replace the word "conservative" with right-wing extremism and I think you will understand the premise a bit better.



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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I think anyone who takes this seriously, is nuts.




posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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I wonder what a mentally insane "liberal"" would look like?

Joe Biden?



posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

I was under the impression that anyone who disagreed with the left was a troll with mental issues and had a mental disease.




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