USA Today: Millions of fish dead in Pacific Northwest — Ocean conditions have ‘gone to hell’

a reply to: autopat51

It's not loading..I thought I wrote that, and energy news is a fukushima doom porn site fyi...

a reply to: Profusion

Why isn't everyone worried?

Because that time has passed. It's much to late for worry now.
The fear is what's missing. But the window of opportunity
is closing in on the ignorance of that mentality exponentially.

But.....but.....Where is Al Gore? I......I thought he, I thought he cared about planet Earth?

Oh that's right, Environmentalism was just a good liberal issue to run on.

Course to be fair to Al, where is Greenpeace and the rest of them? I mean, it's a serious question? ~$heopleNation

I have watched Fukushima from day 1.

It's a bad bad bad situation with no hope of fixing it.

That being said, I don't believe that the problems with the salmon are due to radiation from Fukushima, but other causes. Die offs like these are cyclical in nature and tend to occur through our history, long before Fukushima.

As far as the sores and what not, bacteria breeds faster in warmer water.

If there was enough radiation coming out of Fukushima to cause fish on the western coast of the US to have sores from it, then common sense tells me that every single living thing in the ocean would be dead or close to death, and people who live on the coast would be sick and dying as well. That just isn't the case.

fukushima is the doom that dare not speak it's name. virtually undiscussed, much less considered, outside of forums like this one. scarily absent from the popular/mainstream zeitgeist. one big twinkie.

a reply to: wantsome

From that article:

Most of the animals were too decomposed for sampling

Oh, how convenient!

Even decomposing animals can be sampled, just like decomposing humans.....what an absolute crock. Their silence is deafening......I'd be very cautious of all seafood in the northern pacific now.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: FyreByrd

What's with the repeated posting of the same thing?

Unlike certain members, I'm not perfect and I punched the button twice. Big conspiracy.

a reply to: FyreByrd
That's happened to me, but never minutes apart.

Thats not good...

a reply to: arimass101

Oh boy.
Here we go.

Not salmon Noooooooooooooo !

Welp I get my Salmon farm raised anyway but still this is quite ominous. These huge die offs dont seem to be going away any time soon.

Damn you Japan ! "Waves fist"

This is probably Karma for Hiroshima

a reply to: Mianeye

Kinda like not being able to figure out that suns not any hotter... lol

TELL ME SOMETHING NEW

The Rapture? HAARP? Reptilian fishing trawlers...?!

a reply to: LightAssassin

Even decomposing animals can be sampled, just like decomposing humans.....what an absolute crock. Their silence is deafening......I'd be very cautious of all seafood in the northern pacific now.

A lot more rotting and stinking will be going on soon with So. pac.
islands leaking plutonium and all the crap we've dumped in the oceans
reaching past their contaiment life expectancy. It's all got a come
to ahead somewhere sometime. No doubt the generations coming up
will see the doom we only ridiculed and scouffed at. That's pretty
messed up all by itself.

It has everything to do with ocean temperature and the environmental conditions of the rivers. It has NOTHING to do with Fukushima. Nothing.

Woods Hole Institute and University of Victoria (among others) have said categorically that the levels in the ocean of the West Coast of the Pacific Northwest is insignificant.

Drought, El Nino, and environmental degradation of salmon spawning rivers are what is behind the problem.

Nothing short of the Ninja Turtles emerging from Venice beach is gonna wake people enough for them to give the issue a second thought...

Most of the people on page one want to ignore that the reasons are very well listed on the article. It tells you about fungi and bacterial diseases, no word of fukushima anywhere.

I volunteered for the local Cedar River Salmon project. Salmon have been dying off for a few years now in alarming numbers, and it is not just them. Many fish that return to spawn have also been affected. They definitely agree it is something in the ocean, but haven't pinpointed it. Fukushima, though, has been mentioned more than a few times, amongst other things.

This year's salmon death I think is higher than normal due to the heat, though. Salmon are cold water fish, they need cold, oxygen rich water to live in. Warm water has less oxygen, and thus, the poor fish end up oxygen deprived or even suffocating, if it gets to warm. And believe me, this year's summer here in the Pac Northwest has been abnormally hot and dry. The water temps up here in the rivers sometimes feel like the gulf of Mexico, which is completely abnormal.

It is bad up north as well. Bad enough that a Yukon River First Nations tribe has volunteered to not fish Chinook Salmon for an entire live cycle for the river. That will be eight years.

The Yukon River is managed by Canadian and American fishery departments jointly, but without the agreement of the Tr'ondëk tribe it would be meaningless.

For them to forgo Chinook for eight years and take Chum instead is a big deal.