USA Today: Millions of fish dead in Pacific Northwest — Ocean conditions have ‘gone to hell’

*pulls up a chair and awaits fukutards*

a reply to: Profusion


You think that is bad? This is , but the calm before the storm. Remember theeeeeee Agenda, and remember it well. It is about depopulation, and we are or have been in the middle of an unseen war. You think it was all just an accident? Think again!

This is a war tactic, and one of the key elements to winning a war is the shortening of supplies of the opponent. Only in this case, the opponent happens to be the great majority of the population around the world.

Do you think those underground bunkers are empty? They probably have generations worth of supplies and food stored and something tells me, they are targetting OUR food supplies to have us either, starve to death, resort to cannabism, or kill one another for the food that remains. The future is hell ladies and gents. And guess what? While the powers that be may have been the true geniuses behind this evil plot, but we; WE are ultimately to blame for this mess, for being so damn naive into putting trust where it never belonged.


Humanity gets what it ultimately deserves. As long as Ignorance rules people, people deserve to die. Warn someone not to step in the fire, they step anyways? well its their fault, not yours. You warned them so you played your part. They didn't listen? They should pay attention to what happens to those who ignore things in movies. They usually end up killed. (Usually its the blond chick who is so dumb and oblivious to the signs that walks into every trap.) Well humanity I compare to that blond airhead.

feel offended? You should, because if the events like fukushima doesn't grab people's attention, then people deserve harsh words thrown back at them. Especially with the part they themselves played in the destruction of the planet, and possibly all life in general.

... This is a sad day...

s&F OP... dark signs are everywhere. If there is a God, now would be a good time to show up.

Are we looking to a possible Salmon extinction? That's a very sad news.....

Anyway, i really don't think Fukishima has anything to do with that. Fishes can easily die if the water conditions are not good.

Here's a crowd sourced ocean monitoring program. Nothing but background levels of radionuclides detected anywhere on the west coast.
ourradioactiveocean.org...


Another sophisticated detection program. Showing nothing from Fukushima.
kelpwatch.berkeley.edu...

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

I would be interested in seeing any pictures that you could refer to.

Between the 'heat' wave the Pacific NorthWest has be experiencing this summer and the drought it is no wonder Salmon are dieing and it must be an awful sight (best fishing ever on the Columbia during a run).

They will not come back strong either between Global Warming (which is creating ever more extreme El Nino events), continuing drought (primarily due to lack of snow pack - warming again - on the Pacific Coast), general pollution including Fukishima, plastic, oil spills (not so much in the Pacifc YET - but once Artic drilling starts watch out) and general waste dumping I don't think the Salmon (hey - don't forget the GMO Salmon) have very long.

This is the culmination of various factors exacerbated by El Nino conditions.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

our weatherman on the local news said a few days ago that we would be getting a "cool-down" in temperatures....we did....from 105 to 98.....woopie!!!! brrrrr....it's now freezing in the central valley of California...(sarcasm, of course)

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

I would be interested in seeing any pictures that you could refer to.

Between the 'heat' wave the Pacific NorthWest has be experiencing this summer and the drought it is no wonder Salmon are dieing and it must be an awful sight (best fishing ever on the Columbia during a run).

They will not come back strong either between Global Warming (which is creating ever more extreme El Nino events), continuing drought (primarily due to lack of snow pack - warming again - on the Pacific Coast), general pollution including Fukishima, plastic, oil spills (not so much in the Pacifc YET - but once Artic drilling starts watch out) and general waste dumping I don't think the Salmon (hey - don't forget the GMO Salmon) have very long.

This is the culmination of various factors exacerbated by El Nino conditions.

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

I would be interested in seeing any pictures that you could refer to.

Between the 'heat' wave the Pacific NorthWest has be experiencing this summer and the drought it is no wonder Salmon are dieing and it must be an awful sight (best fishing ever on the Columbia during a run).

They will not come back strong either between Global Warming (which is creating ever more extreme El Nino events), continuing drought (primarily due to lack of snow pack - warming again - on the Pacific Coast), general pollution including Fukishima, plastic, oil spills (not so much in the Pacifc YET - but once Artic drilling starts watch out) and general waste dumping I don't think the Salmon (hey - don't forget the GMO Salmon) have very long.

This is the culmination of various factors exacerbated by El Nino conditions.

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

I would be interested in seeing any pictures that you could refer to.

Between the 'heat' wave the Pacific NorthWest has be experiencing this summer and the drought it is no wonder Salmon are dieing and it must be an awful sight (best fishing ever on the Columbia during a run).

They will not come back strong either between Global Warming (which is creating ever more extreme El Nino events), continuing drought (primarily due to lack of snow pack - warming again - on the Pacific Coast), general pollution including Fukishima, plastic, oil spills (not so much in the Pacifc YET - but once Artic drilling starts watch out) and general waste dumping I don't think the Salmon (hey - don't forget the GMO Salmon) have very long.

This is the culmination of various factors exacerbated by El Nino conditions.

a reply to: FyreByrd

i have seen pics in the local news, but the OP has some good photos as well.
i also have to wonder what effect this will have on all the animal life that feed on fish.
very sad things are happening.

click on link to article

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

I would be interested in seeing any pictures that you could refer to.

Between the 'heat' wave the Pacific NorthWest has been experiencing this summer and the drought it is no wonder Salmon are dieing and it must be an awful sight (best fishing ever on the Columbia during a run).

They will not come back strong either between Global Warming (which is creating ever more extreme El Nino events), continuing drought (primarily due to lack of snow pack - warming again - on the Pacific Coast), general pollution including Fukishima, plastic, oil spills (not so much in the Pacifc YET - but once Artic drilling starts watch out) and general waste dumping I don't think the Salmon (hey - don't forget the GMO Salmon) have very long.

This is the culmination of various factors exacerbated by El Nino conditions.

a reply to: FyreByrd

umm..you can stop now.

originally posted by: autopat51
the sores and bloated belly's the fish are displaying is very telling that something besides warm water is at play here.

Why are people starring this post when the person didn't post the pictures! Or a link! That is so ridiculous! What is wrong with people? If you do have pictures of dead salmon, guess what they are decomposing. There is a thing called shelf life with any fresh, raw food, everyone start using your common sense. Think of a dead anything, they rot and decompose, it's a natural process for all life on earth. Cookie Cutter sharks also put perfect circular bites on fish, not saying that is what it could be, but sores on fish could be from predators in the ocean. The OP's link isn't loading fyi...and I haven't seen these "pictures" but I'm pretty sure the OP and other's are just misidentifying the sores. Especially since these ATSer's are not posting any links, pictures, or well written paragraphs to explain their claims.

If salmon cannot make it back to their spawning ground due to rivers drying up do they die? Also USA Today's title is so misleading as is the OP's who copied it. Millions of fish dead? No not fish, plural, but only one species, sockeye; and not millions, estimated 300,000, less than 1 million. Also this is the Columbia River, what about the other locations for wild salmon? How about Fraser River? Cook Inlet? Bristol Bay?

No one in this thread is considering last year's wild salmon run which was massive....Um hello???

There are a good number of people who are still ignorant to the importance of temperature. The fishing and seafood industry has to closely monitor the temperature from hook to plate or harvest to plate. You have to have constant temperature control all the way to the dinner plate or else the fish will go bad. People arguing about temperature are arguing against facts which is completely ignorant. Can intense heat kill life? Yes it can and that includes things in the ocean and rivers.

An estimated quarter-million salmon, more than half of the spring spawning run up the Columbia River, perished, probably because of a disease that thrives in warm water and causes gill rot, officials said. Normally cool streams in the river basin are 13 degrees warmer than the 60 degrees preferred by salmon, Brigham said.

Link

So Fukushima is heating up the Pacific Ocean? Or the planet for that matter? Oh well look at that back to global warming, well folks the fishing and seafood industry has to monitor the temperatures so if they have been reporting for years that ocean temps are rising, then what can you argue? Facts are facts.

Only 272,000 out of the more than 507,000 sockeye salmon that have swum between two dams along a stretch of the lower Columbia River have survived the journey, said Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife fisheries manager John North.

Link

a reply to: game over man

So Fukushima is heating up the Pacific Ocean?

Uh huh.
And the tributaries to the Columbia River as well. Cuz warm water flows upstream. Somehow...not sure how..but it does.

The warmer-than-usual water temperatures are promoting bacterial infections in the sockeye, Korth said.

“These salmon are constantly getting scraped, scratched and poked as they go over rocks and climb fish ladders and escape predators,” he said. “That’s not a big problem in cold water, but in warm water the bacteria that’s in an aquatic system gets around the wounds and proliferates faster. We’re seeing big gaping sores on these fish.”

www.spokesman.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: game over man

So Fukushima is heating up the Pacific Ocean?

Uh huh.
And the tributaries to the Columbia River as well. Cuz warm water flows upstream. Somehow...not sure how..but it does.

The warmer-than-usual water temperatures are promoting bacterial infections in the sockeye, Korth said.

“These salmon are constantly getting scraped, scratched and poked as they go over rocks and climb fish ladders and escape predators,” he said. “That’s not a big problem in cold water, but in warm water the bacteria that’s in an aquatic system gets around the wounds and proliferates faster. We’re seeing big gaping sores on these fish.”

www.spokesman.com...

Why are you posting that Fukushima is heating up the Pacific Ocean with no link or proper explanation?

And here's another possible contributing factor (found while looking for info on Middle Eastern 'heat dome':

Scientists fear toxic algae bloom spreading on Pacific coast

america.aljazeera.com...

a reply to: FyreByrd

And here's another possible contributing factor (found while looking for info on Middle Eastern 'heat dome':

This fish are dying because of high temperatures in rivers.
But algal blooms can certainly have an effect on salmon numbers in the ocean.

An additional concern relates to salmon stock. The bloom has almost no crustaceans, but instead has a large number of gelatinous zooplankton, which is worrisome, Perry said. Young salmon typically migrate out of rivers and migrate along the coast of the Island at this time of year. “Because they’re small, they need to feed a lot and grow quickly to avoid predators. But with the lack of crill and other crustaceans, there is a concern they won’t find as much food,” Perry said.

The consequences could be seen in lower salmon stocks returning to rivers in two to four years, he said.

www.timescolonist.com...

Double Post

a reply to: FyreByrd

What's with the repeated posting of the same thing?

a reply to: game over man

umm..the pictures are in the OP if you had bothered to read it.