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Bernie Sanders says that billionaires have “psychiatric issues.” He’s not entirely incorrect.

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posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

The debt means nothing?

Just like it means nothing when people get stuck like in 2008.

Our what about Greece? Spain?

Big bank loans to governments?

Definitely means nothing.

ROFLOL





posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: crazyewok

The debt means nothing?

Just like it means nothing when people get stuck like in 2008.

Our what about Greece? Spain?

Big bank loans to governments?

Definitely means nothing.

ROFLOL



I think you need to understand debt verse deficit.

Ideally no debt is of course good. And your right the lower the debt the better to deal with financial crisis like 2008.
That why the Scandinavian country weathered the recession better than most other cause they HAD a low debt.

But high debt does not automatically signal =Doom

High deficit is what you should worry about as that's the inability to pay back debt.
As long as you can pay the debt back and there is no deficit there is zero problem.

A national debt with no deficit is like having a credit card and paying it back comfortably every month with plenty to spare. Which is what the Scandinavian country are doing, unlike the USA which is in massive deficit and that like getting a new credit to pay off the old one, which is unsustainable.

And the only reason the Scandinavian have a debt is nothing to do with social policy's but the cluster of 2008 and the Euro Zone.

Greece and Spain that you mention are example of high deficit not debt. The debt that caught up cause they ignored the deficit.

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posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: johnwick

Capitalism doesn't seem to be working too well either. If he tries to enact a socialist government and it fails, guess what, we're in the exact same spot as we are now. The way I see it, we have nothing to lose at this point, we're already spiraling into oblivion as it is.


Except socialist gobs are totalitarian, and overly oppressive, and invade every aspect of every citizens life on a scale even NSA spying could never hope to accomplish.

No thanks, I would rather have the freedom I have now, and be dead broke, struggling not to starve to death.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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Of course they have psychiatric issues, they have no remorse for what they do or sympathy for those they screw over time and time again


That's because psychopaths make good businessman.

I'm not talking about the stereotypical psychopaths that we see in movies, I'm talking about the personal traits-Psychopaths are self centered, apathetic and unapologetic-three traits that makes a 'good' businessman. They'll get the job done regardless of who they hurt on the path to success.

Murdoch could be a psychopath-his disdain and disregard for anyone below him makes him a perfect candidate-not to mention psychopaths can be quite inventive liars.

"This is the most humbling day of my life" Keep telling yourself that Rupert while you grasp your sons hand in mock guilt.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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S & F

Bernie just calls them as he sees them.

But then an awful lot of us have seen business leaders are psychopaths, remember Enron!



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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Maybe we need psychiatrists to run for public office.




posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Doesn't matter.

A bust-out is a bust-out is a bust-out.




posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: crazyewok

Doesn't matter.

A bust-out is a bust-out is a bust-out.



And the Scandinavian country are not bust or anywhere near bust.

And you only go bust if you deficit gets out of control and and you cant pay your bills. IE Greece

Sweden, Norway , Sweden and Denmark are a long long way from being bust and in fact going the opposite way. They are paying there bills quite comfortably. They are not even the same league as Greece or Spain or even the USA when it comes to budget issues.

UK is about to clear its deficit in the next couple of years so we too will be out of the bust zone.

Time for the USA to reduce its deficit

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posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

A bust-out is a bust-out is a bust-out.




posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: crazyewok

A bust-out is a bust-out is a bust-out.



Ok it looks like you cant grasp simple economics

Lets make it more simple shall we for your mind to comprehend.

The Scandinavian country's ARE NOT BUST. Nor are they near to being bust. Simple?


Greece is BUST

Argentina is BUST

Spain Is nearly BUST

Italy is nearly BUST

USA is going BUST

UK nearly went Bust

Norway is NOT bust
Denmark is NOT bust
Sweden is NOT bust
Finland is NOT bust


Comprehend?



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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Anyone who holds an office or has large sums of money tend to possessed psychopathic traits. Too many studies have been conducted that suggests it for it to be anomalous.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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the wealthy can move their capital in seconds, and remove themselves and family from a country in a few hours....the rest of us have been programmed to fight each other....the real battle is to fight the wealthy on a world-wide scale. however, this is something I will not see in my lifetime. there have been revolutions in the past that have succeeded, due to lack of/or speed of mobility for the wealthy....not in this day and age...let's remember that the Bush family has purchased 5000 acres in Paraguay over one of South Americas largest fresh-water aquifers...that wasn't for some looney-tune reason. the rest of the world's wealthy have well-stocked retreats, in various unknown locations. their survivability is fully intact, all the while the rest of us will spend years of suffering.
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posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

It's not hording money, it's hording power. Influence.

Money, since they have so much, means little to them. It's the power that can come with it that matters.

Cut back on the ability to influence, and the hording would, I believe, be cut way back.

But since there are always going to be folks to whom money speaks...

To be honest, if I'm a politician, and some guy named Gates wants a moment, or twelve, of my time, and is willing to bankroll my campaign/lifestyle in return for a bit of influence? I'd probably take him up on it. I know how to say no, but tell me, how tempting would it be to take a few million under the table? Kids college taken care of. Medical bills for my Dad taken care of.

Of course I'd tempted, I'm no saint.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: crazyewok

A bust-out is a bust-out is a bust-out.



Ok it looks like you cant grasp simple economics

Lets make it more simple shall we for your mind to comprehend.

The Scandinavian country's ARE NOT BUST. Nor are they near to being bust. Simple?


It's almost like the countries that take a responsible view towards their tax rates are stable. Unlike say the US which increases spending every year but has 50% of it's politicians signed on to a no tax pledge.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: seagull

To be honest, if I'm a politician, and some guy named Gates wants a moment, or twelve, of my time, and is willing to bankroll my campaign/lifestyle in return for a bit of influence? I'd probably take him up on it. I know how to say no, but tell me, how tempting would it be to take a few million under the table? Kids college taken care of. Medical bills for my Dad taken care of.

Of course I'd tempted, I'm no saint.


And doing so should be considered corruption and should be meet with server penalty's.

If a politician faced 20 years in general pop then I doubt they would be so keen to take Gates money

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posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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I agree! Strip George Soros of his money immediately, and give it to charity!



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

You're not wrong.

But there's no denying the influence that that money brings. That's sheer unadulterated power.

...and there's ways around those laws. Who better to know 'em, then the folks who wrote 'em. Take a look at the homes of some of these pols...no way in hell can they afford them on the pittance the govt. pays 'em.

It would take a man/woman of breathtaking honesty/conscience not to be tempted--a lot, when someone comes into your office offering quite litteraly a suitcase full of cash.

More power to them if they're that honest. But after years and years of temptation? Eventually, even the hardest rock splits under a constant hammering.

I don't think such penalties would come close to curtailing it. Or not much... These are ego driven people. They're smarter than everyone else...ask 'em, they'll tell you, they can't possibly be caught.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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One of the clichés of wealth is of the self made millionaire, who was born disadvantaged or poor and vowed to never be poor again and made a million dollars by dint of his own sweat and toil and genius . . . and if it stopped there, I would stand and applaud this person, but it doesn't stop there . . .

He goes on to make another million and another, though he no longer needs the money and though he will never be poor again, guaranteed. In some cases he goes on because he has a bigger vision and something of great benefit to offer on a grand scale, but most often he goes on because he has become a neurotic with tunnel vision who doesn't know how to live.

He then follows his tunnel vision, like a compulsive neurotic, amassing a great fortune, which is another way of saying sequestering vast amounts of wealth to which he has access, but no-one else. He becomes a oner, who rose out of poverty by creating the conditions in which millions live in poverty.

Believe it or not folks, these head cases control the world. I think that's what Sanders was getting at.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

"the wealthy can move their capital in seconds, and remove themselves and family from a country in a few hours"

Knocked that one outa the park! Every time I read the comments of these arm-chair wanna be socialists, I have to laugh. They have absolutely no idea how incredibly mobile and resilient the wealthy are. They want a socialist revolution to beggar the wealthy and hand out the wealth like amateur Robin Hoods and if not careful, they'll end up not only beggaring themselves but putting into power a system interested only in crushing them even further. Not that any of it will work. The "President" of the US is powerless without a cooperative Congress and no one has ever accused Congress of being cooperative.



posted on Aug, 2 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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