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posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: SPECULUM

pretty sure that's not how it works. I don't know one person willing to violate their sf312.

and yeah I'm pretty sure you need clearance up the Wazoo to work on or even know about any real black projects in any degree of detail.


Not for UFO work...They don't exist...Remember?




posted on Aug, 3 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: icewater
a reply to: BASSPLYR

The Black programs have their own forms with a very specific description of what happens when you violate your clearance. I know I was in a couple of those 'read in' programs and there was no way I was going to talk after signing. I know a couple of guys who worked at Area 51 and they wouldn't say a word about it....nothing....not even what time they went to work. So I know there were some very strict briefings on disclosure. I can imagine what the penalties were because I know what mine were/are. And Lazur would be a complete imbecile to go down that road. Anybody would be.

So based on that....he is a fraud.


However, you're quite happy to talk about it on a world wide forum, so that totally contradicts just about everything you have posted so far. I've known people who couldn't even tell you where one of their parents worked save for, it was "probably in London", so this whole "My friends who worked at Area 51 spiel", strikes me as complete and utter moonshine.

As has been pointed out umpteen times before on this forum, "Yes Sir, three bags full Sir People", rarely make the huge breakthroughs the military lust after. As such, they are forced by historical precedence and sheer common sense, to pull in people they know, in the end, they have no control over. In the late 70s and the whole of balmcake years under Ronnie and his court of jesters, they were absolutely desperate to try and prove they had the whip hand over the Russkis and I can well see how Bob was co-opted into some pretty exotic programmes because he actually walks the walk rather than, spends his life theorising about it.

I can also see that, at the time Bob came out as it were, as a black ops op, it was very much in the interest of the USA for them to appear to have such "exotic technology" however, historical events over took them and 18 months-2 years later, that need had vanished and it was back to "as you were" when it came to UFOs.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: StargateSG7
a reply to: BASSPLYR


Also add in that his top secret security clearance
Would have taken 12 to 18 months to get, so as
A subcontractor Lazar would have been assigned temporarily to another project until he obtained his clearance. Someone needs to find some 80's era employment forms from EG&G or Kellog Brown and Root indicating Lazar was working on Civilian projects before they put him on a CAP or SAP project.
To



Working as a scientist on an ultra black project requires no security clearance, because they Hypothetically don't exist, therefore no clearance required.

Who's going to ever believe you if you spill the beans? and how are you going to show anyone the location if you cant get anywhere near the place, before becoming Vulture pickens?

Unkle Sammy doesn't care about their UFO stuff slipping out...years ago they hired Hollywood to build on propaganda to ensure folks believed they existed, so other programs could debunk them, ultimately creating confusion... plausible deniability, and compartmentalization took care of the rest....No threats needed and no one to answer to



ABSOLUTELY NOT HOW IT WORKS...SAP (Special Access Programs) and CAP (Compartmentalized Access) program have differences in routine but the prerequisite is the same ... A Secret or Top Secret clearance, a polygraph test every year and at the beginning a broad spectrum background check which can take between 12 and 18 months, a team based informational security briefing and an individual operations security briefing after signing your non-disclosure forms (NDA).
You will also receive a base operations and orientation meeting along with a briefing where
Your secure access card and/or biometric systems entry allows you to go within your
Building or Area of Operations Assignment.

If you see MP's as your building guards
your AoO is Secret. IF YOU see Cammo Dudes
you're a Top Secret AoO. AND if you see DEVGRU or 1st SOD-D then you're in a MAJIC AoO and you get to play with the Big Boy toys!!!

There is NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT!
The SAP and CAP induction procedure is the same! Only the level of security and from where your AoO guards are sourced are different.

Only the CIA does the variable and clandestine
Induction system since half their sources are
Basically criminals so their AoO security is more
"weird" and variable!



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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All this is so...I don't know. I read a declassified doc from the late 60's where the FBI investigates the claims of men in black (and to boot these were also Asian) who harrassed a person who saw a UFO. It seems as if actually nobody knows anything.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 08:18 PM
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Try these GENERAL BACKGROUND links to start:

www.google.com...

en.m.wikipedia.org...

www.google.com.ar...

www.google.ca...

en.m.wikipedia.org...


www.google.com.au...


www.technologyreview.com...


en.m.wikipedia.org...


www.technologyreview.com...


books.google.ca... GwFv8k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBsQ6AEwBmoVChMIoZvg9KqMxwIVTxCSCh3hlA_S#v=onepage&q=field%20effects%20propulsion%20engine&f=false

m.techxplore.com...

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MORE SCIENTIFICALLY VALIDATED LINKS:

Here are the Links and Names of Articles, Papers
and other minutae to what I would say are reasonably
peer-reviewed items and generally acceptable principles
for beam-based and field effects propulsion systems.

Some pretty "Heavy Duty" sponsors are listed here.

PEER-REVIEWED and/or Peer-level Sponsors, Patents,
Papers and Symposiums of Research and Development
into Microwave Beam-based Wireless Powering and
Direct Beam-based lift and Propulsion, and
Gravity Wave and Fields Effects systems.

These are papers and articles for which
there is some demonstrable proof or at
least an PEER-ACCEPTED claim for results
within areas of beam-based lift and propulsion
systems and field effects-based propulsion systems.

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EM Drive patents:

British Patents expanding upon work done
by North American Aerospace and Grumman in 1960's

Thrust Producing Device using Microwaves
GB # 2399601
Roger J. Shawyer

Abstract -- A microwave engine, which produces high thrust,
may be used to propel spacecraft where the thrust vector is
at ninety degrees to the main velocity vector. It may also be
used in an airborne vehicle to counteract gravitational force.
The engine comprises a gimbal mounted matrix of a number of
superconducting microwave thrusters 11 which are supplied
with pulses of microwave energy via an array of switches
15 and enclosed in a Dewar 19 which is maintained at low
temperature by liquefied gas. The engine may include an
automatic control system to maintain the correct frequency
of the microwave generator 7, a means 17 of dissipating the
stored microwave energy, and a gyroscopic instrument 21 and
motors 22,23 for maintaining the axis of thrust parallel to
the direction of gravitational acceleration for an airborne vehicle.

AND

Microwave Thruster for Spacecraft
UK Patent Application GB # 2334761
Roger J. Shawyer

Abstract -- The thruster comprises a tapered waveguide
comprising a section 1, that is evacuated or filled with
air, and a section 6 containing a dielectric resonator
or ferrite material whose relative permeability or relative
permittivity (or both) have values greater than unity.
Microwaves may be introduced into the guide via a slot 2,
or a probe. It is stated that the force 9, on the end wall 5,
due to reflection of the microwaves, is less than the force 4,
exerted on the end wall 3, thereby generating a resultant
propulsive thrust. The thruster may be used to enable the
orbit of a spacecraft to be maintained or changed over a period of time.



SPR Ltd.

Satellite Propulsion Research Ltd (SPR Ltd) was formed
in October 2000 as the corporate vehicle for progressing
the development of a new form of electric propulsion.
This electromagnetic “EmDrive” technology provides direct
conversion of electrical energy to thrust, using radiation
pressure at microwave frequencies in a tapered, high Q, resonant cavity.

The first UK government funded programme was a feasibility
study completed in 2002. This work confirmed the theoretical
predictions in a large series of tests using an experimental
thruster. In addition, the huge potential savings for the
space industry were identified during the preparation of a business model.

Following an independent review of the feasibility study
report, a Demonstrator programme was authorised. This covered
the design, manufacture and test of an S Band Demonstrator Engine.
The Engine successfully demonstrated viable performance in both
Static and Dynamic test programmes, and provided the basic knowledge
to design the Flight Model Thruster. Once again a full technical
report was prepared and reviewed before acceptance by the UK government.

A feasibility study is currently underway to investigate second
generation superconducting technology. This includes the design,
build and test of an experimental thruster operating at liquid
nitrogen temperature.

A flight model development programme has started
on a 300W, C band thruster, specified to produce 85mN thrust.


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Advancements in Dense Plasma Focus (DPF)
for Space Propulsion
by
Robert Thomas1, Yang Yang2, G.H. Miley3, F.B. Mead4
1Department of Aerospace Engineering, University of
Illinois at Urbana – Champaign,
Urbana, Illinois 61801, USA

Department of Nuclear, Plasma, and Radiological Engineering,
University of Illinois at Urbana– Champaign,
Urbana, Illinois 61801, USA

4AFRL/PRSP, 10 E. Saturn Blvd., Edwards AFB CA
93524-7680
Phone 1 (217) 244-5348
Email: rethomas@uiuc.edu

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This allows for wavelength and frequency-specific metamaterials
to shape and present EM enery for use in wireless data or power transfer
and when scaled up usable for advanced propulsion:

“Magnetic Metamaterial Superlens for Increased Range Wireless Power Transfer,”
by
Lipworth, L.,Ensworth, J., Seetharam, K., Huang, D., Lee, J.S., Schmalenberg, P.,
Nomura, T., Reynolds, M.S., Smith, D.R., and Urzhumov, Y. Nature, 2013.

News Release by Duke University.

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BEAMED POWER PROPULSION TO THE STARS
Dr. Robert L. Forward
Senior Scientist
Hughes Research Laboratories
3011 Malibu Canyon Road
Malibu, California 90265 USA
(213)317-5280
(805)983-7652
AAAS Symposium on Interstellar Communication and Travel
AAAS Annual Meeting
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
25-20 May 1986

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LIGHTCRAFT PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY FOR
LOW COST ACCESS TO SPACE

by

Air Force Research Laboratory
Propulsion Directorate and NASA Marshall Space Flight Center

1. A. Kantrowitz, "Propulsion to Orbit by Ground-Based Lasers,"
Astronautics and Aeronautics, 10, 74-76 (1972).

2. L N. Myrabo, D. G. Messitt, and F. B. Mead, Jr., "Ground and Flight
Tests of a Laser Propelled Vehicle", 36th Aerospace Sciences Meeting,
paper AIAA 98-1001, Jan 12-15,1998.

3. F. B. Mead, Jr., L N. Myrabo, and D. G. Messitt, "Flight and Ground
Tests of a Laser-Boosted Vehicle," 34th AIAA/ASME/ASE/ASEE Joint
Propulsion Conference, paper AIAA 98-3735, July 13-15, 1998.
Authors: Dr. Patrick Carrick, chief of the Propellants Branch, Dr. Franklin
Mead, Jr., senior scientist and co-program manager of the LTD project, and
Dr. Leik Myrabo, Associate Professor of Aeronautical Engineering at
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, LTD co-program manager, and affiliated
research scientist with the Propulsion Sciences and Advanced Concepts
Division, Propulsion Directorate, Air Force Research Laboratory
(AFRL/PRSP).

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 08:22 PM
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CONTINUES FROM ABOVE:


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US Patent No 3626605,

Method and Apparatus for Generating a Secondary Gravitational Force Field,

Henry Wm Wallace, Ardmore PA, Dec 14, 1971.

RE: advances in understanding of the "Kinemassic Field".

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US Patent No 3626606,

Method and Apparatus for Generating a Dynamic Force Field,

Henry Wm Wallace, Ardmore PA, Dec 14, 1971

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Electric Propulsion Study,
by
Dennis L. Cravens, Science Applications International Corp, August 1990

Prepared for Astronautics Laboratory, Edwards AFB
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requested by:
AIR FORCE RESEARCH LABORATORY, MUNITIONS DIRECTORATE
Air Force Materiel Command ■ United States Air Force ■ Eglin Air Force Base

reports and papers:

POSSIBLE GRAVITATIONAL ANOMALIES IN QUANTUM MATERIALS
Phase I: Experiment Definition and Design
M. Tajmar and K. Hense
Austrian Research Centers Seibersdorf Research GmbH
A-2444 Seibersdorf, Austria

AND

POSSIBLE GRAVITATIONAL ANOMALIES IN QUANTUM MATERIALS
Phase II: Experiment Assembly, Qualification and Test Results
M. Tajmar
Austrian Research Centers Seibersdorf Research GmbH
A-2444 Seibersdorf, Austria
AFRL-MN-EG-TR-2007-7013 DTIC/STINFO COPY

by

Martin Tajmar

AND

Fiber-Optic-Gyroscope Measurements Close to Rotating
Liquid Helium
M. Tajmar and F. Plesescu
Space Propulsion & Advanced Concepts
Austrian Institute of Technology GmbH
A-2444 Seibersdorf, Austria

+43-50550-3142; martin.tajmar@ait.ac.at

Abstract. We previously reported anomalous fiber-optic gyroscope signals
observed above rotating rings at temperatures close to liquid helium.
Our results suggested that the liquid helium itself may be the source
of our observed phenomenon We constructed a new cryostat
experiment that allows rotating a large quantity of liquid helium
together with a superconducting niobium tube. The facility is
built in such a way that our gyroscope can be placed directly in
the center of rotation along the axis; however, the cryostat is
built around the gyroscope to allow measuring without
interference of helium liquid or gas. An anomalous signal
was found of similar value compared to our previous measurements
with a changed sign. As this measurement was done at a different
location (center position) with respect to our old setup (top position),
first hints for a possible field distribution of this phenomenon can be
made. However, due to lower angular velocities used in this new
setup so far, our measurement resolution was close to three times
the resolution of our gyroscope and hence our data represent work
in progress.

Keywords: Frame Dragging, Liquid Helium, Superfluidity, Superconductivity
PACS: 04.80.-y, 74.00.00


Background:
en.wikipedia.org...

AND

Gravitoelectric-Electric Coupling Via Superconductivity
Douglas Torr and Ning Li,
for
Foundations of Physics Letters, Vol. 6, No. 4, p. 71, (1993).

+++++ PLEASE NOTE +++++

The above papers AIR FORCEPAPERS are SIMILAR
in result to a more CONTROVERSIAL paper on using
Cryogenics for:

Weak Gravitational Shielding Properties
of Composite Bulk Y Ba2 Cu3 O7 Superconductor
Below 70K Under EM Field,

by

Eugene Podkletnov

at
LANL Physics Preprint Server
Cond-Mat/9701074, January 1997.

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BEAM DRIVES AND FIELD EFFECTS PATENTS:

Magnetic propulsion system and operating method
US 6193194 B1
Publication number US6193194 B1
Publication type Grant
Application number US 09/146,927
Publication date 27 Feb 2001
Filing date 1 Sep 1998
Priority date 1 Sep 1998
Fee status Lapsed
Inventors Michael A. Minovitch

A traveling-field, magnetic propulsion system and operating method
is provided for achieving economical space travel. The system is
based upon designing the vehicle in the form of a single-stage
streamlined circular toroidal airfoil containing a thin-walled
superconducting solenoid. It is initially launched vertically off
the earth's surface into a vacuum environment at 125 km using
conventional rocket propulsion. It is then accelerated along a
high-inclination trajectory by a traveling repulsive magnetic
field generated by ejecting an easily ionizable low-density gas
cloud in the vehicle's magnetic field and transmitting a high-power,
plane-polarized, microwave beam at the cloud tuned to the electron
cyclotron resonant frequency. The transmitter is constructed horizontally
on the earth's surface as an electronically-steered, phased array several
hundred meters in diameter energized by a large superconducting energy
storage system. The transmitter will be able to transmit a converging CW
microwave beam at the vehicle with very high power to magnetically
accelerate it over great distances without atmospheric breakdown.
The method can be used as a general high-speed earth or space
transportation system by catapulting suborbital or orbital payloads,
or by catapulting multikiloton payloads to other celestial
bodies with mass ratios below that of long-range aircraft.
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International High-Frequency Gravitational
Waves (HFGW) Working Group Program

Dr. Ning Li
en.wikipedia.org...

and
Army Aviation & Missile Command
and
Numerous others

NOW part of :

AC Gravity LLC,
511 Sparkman Drive,
Huntsville, Alabama 35816, USA.
E-mail: lining@comcast.net


SPACE PROPULSION, AERIAL PROPULSION and "TRACTOR BEAM" TECHNOLOGY:

"Application of HFGW to Imaging and Communication.PDF"

The theoretical Bible for gravitational-wave researchers
is a tome by the Russians, L. D. Landau and E. M. Lif#z entitled
The Classical Theory of Fields. On page 349 they state: "Since it
has definite energy, the gravitational wave is itself the source of
some additional gravitational field... its field is a second-order
effect ... But in the case of high-frequency gravitational waves the
effect is significantly strengthened ...". Thus by means of HFGW it
is possible to change the gravitational field near an object and move
it. It sounds like Science Fiction, but it's not. HFGW experiments
will confirm this startling new form of propulsion. Conference papers
HFGW-03-110, HFGW-03-111, and HFGW-03-116 discuss this application.
Just imagine remotely changing the course of a missile
(bullet to ICBM) so that it will miss its target!

AND

used for

High Performance High Resolution
DEEP SUB-SEA AND UNDERGROUND IMAGING APPLICATIONS:

In a journal article, Ning Li and David Torr theorized that
HFGW can be slowed or refracted by a superconductor; thus one can
introduce optics to concentrate or focus HFGW and develop a HFGW
Telescope. Although HFGW passes through all material unattenuated,
its polarization, frequency, and direction might be modified by
structure between the HFGW generator and detector. If intervening
matter between the HFGW generator and detector causes a change in
HFGW polarization, diffraction, dispersion or results in extremely
slight scattering or absorption, then it may be possible to develop a
HFGW "X-ray" like system. It may, in fact, be possible to image
directly through the Earth and view subterranean features, such as
geological ones, to a sub-millimeter resolution for THz HFGW.
Conference paper HFGW-03-120 discusses this application.
Just imagine three-dimensional satellite surveillance of
building interiors and subterranean structures by means of HFGW
generator(s) on one side of the Earth and satellite-based HFGW
detectors on the other side!

AND
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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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High-Frequency Gravitational Wave
Communications Study (GravCom®)
Robert M L Baker, Jr.
Transportation Sciences Corporation
8123 Tuscany Avenue
Playa del Rey, CA 90293
December 7, 2009 Revision
Special Report
(i.e. infers Faster-than-light-speed communications)

AND

What Poincaré and Einstein have Wrought: a Modern, Practical Application
of the General Theory of Relativity
(The story of High-Frequency Gravitational Waves)

(Paper HFGW-03-101, Gravitational Wave Conference, The MITRE Corporation,
McLean, Virginia, USA, May 6-9, 2003)

by

Robert M. L. Baker, Jr.

ABSTRACT
The history of gravitational waves is traced from the original suggestion
of Jules Henri Poincaré, the general theory of Albert Einstein, and the
pioneering analyses of Joseph Weber and Robert Forward. Today we are
discovering new means to generate and detect High-Frequency Gravitational
Waves (HFGW) in a terrestrial laboratory due to technological advancements.
The validation of Einstein’s gravitational wave (GW) theory by Hulse and Taylor,
for which they received the Nobel Prize, and the studies of possible relic or
primordial HFGW to be detected in the cosmic background, and other celestial
sources of much lower frequency GW, are discussed. The seemly insurmountable
barriers to laboratory GW generation are shown to be breached through the use
of new technology including high-temperature superconductors, nanotechnology,
and ultra-fast science. Some twenty devices that have been proposed for the
laboratory generation of HFGW since 1960 and three new HFGW detectors are
briefly described. Finally, one quite practical and some more speculative
applications of HFGW are presented as the result of the theoretical
potential for generating between one kilowatt and one megawatt
of HFGW according to four of the papers presented at this Conference.

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Microwave Plasma Thruster (MPT) is a new type of electro-thermal thruster:

OPITIMIZATION OF GEOSYNCHRONOUS SATELLITE SYSTEM USING ELECTRIC
PROPULSION BASED ON GENETIC ALGORITHM
Han Xianwei, He Hongqing, Tang Jinlan Mao, Genwang, Yang Juan
College of Astronautics, Northwestern Polytechnical University, Xi’an, P.R. China, 710072

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Field-emission electric propulsion:

Experimental Performance of Field Emission Microthrusters

JOURNAL OF PROPULSION AND POWER
Vol. 14, No. 5, September –October 1998
by
Salvo Marcuccio,* Angelo Genovese,† and Mariano Andrenucci‡
Centrospazio, Ospedaletto 56014, Pisa, Italy

This paper presents the results of a series of tests performed on a set of Ž
field emission electric propulsion (FEEP) emitters, including recording of
the current /voltage characteristic curves and ion beam scanning with
electrostatic probes. This work was aimed at collecting reliable, systematic
thruster performance data to be used as a basis for the deŽ nition of a
reference thruster mathematical model (not reported here). Four FEEP
emitters with three different slit height values were tested. Thrust
produced covered the 1– 170 mN range. Repeatability of thruster
performance was found to depend on the degree of wetting
of the emitter slit and on the presence of glow discharge
between the electrodes. The latter represented an
undesired effect and was therefore eliminated after the firstŽ
series of experiments. Wetting, on the contrary, proved to be
of the utmost importance. In some cases, thruster performance
improved by up to as much as 150% within a few days of the
beginning of the test, as a result of enhanced slit wetting.

Background:
en.wikipedia.org...

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DARPA Tries to Tap Elusive Casimir Effect for Breakthrough Technology

Casimir Effect Enhancement program:

Strong Casimir force reduction through metallic surface nanostructuring

Francesco Intravaia,
Stephan Koev,
Il Woong Jung,
A. Alec Talin,
Paul S. Davids,
Ricardo S. Decca,
Vladimir A. Aksyuk,
Diego A. R. Dalvit
& Daniel López

Affiliations
Contributions
Corresponding author

Nature Communications
4,
Article number:
2515
doi:10.1038/ncomms3515

Received
05 February 2013
Accepted
28 August 2013
Published
27 September 2013

The Casimir force between bodies in vacuum can be understood as arising
from their interaction with an infinite number of fluctuating electromagnetic
quantum vacuum modes, resulting in a complex dependence on the shape and
material of the interacting objects. Becoming dominant at small separations,
the force has a significant role in nanomechanics and object manipulation at
the nanoscale, leading to a considerable interest in identifying structures
where the Casimir interaction behaves significantly different from the well-
known attractive force between parallel plates. Here we experimentally
demonstrate that by nanostructuring one of the interacting metal surfaces
at scales below the plasma wavelength, an unexpected regime in the Casimir
force can be observed. Replacing a flat surface with a deep metallic lamellar
grating with sub-100 nm features strongly suppresses the Casimir force and for
large inter-surfaces separations reduces it beyond what would be expected by
any existing theoretical prediction.
Background:

MY COMMENT: Think of this as the OPPOSITE of a Tractor Beam --- usable
in Space Transport to move AWAY from a planetary body.

www.scientificamerican.com...

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These papers are a bit more on the controversial side
but still in my opinion have SOME scientific basis but the
authors themselves are considered controversial:

Weak gravitation shielding properties of
composite bulk Y Ba2 Cu3 O7 superconductor
below 70 K under e.m. field. (Yttrium Barium Copper)
by

Eugene Podkletnov

Moscow Chemical Scientifc Research Centre
Contact e-mail address: modanese@science.unitn.it

Abstract
A high-temperature Y Ba2 Cu3 O7 bulk ceramic superconductor with composite
structure has revealed weak shielding properties against gravitational force in
the state of levitation at temperatures below 70 K. A toroidal disk was prepared
using conventional ceramic technology in combination with melt-texture growth.

Two solenoids were placed around the disk in order to initiate the current inside
it and also to provide rotation about its central axis. Samples placed over the
rotating disk demonstrated a weight loss of 0.3-0.5%. When the rotation speed
was slowly reduced by changing the current in the solenoids, the shielding
eff ect became considerably higher and reached 1.9-2.1% at maximum.
74.72.

RE: High-Tc cuprates.

See background:
en.wikipedia.org...

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Possible quantum gravity effects in a charged Bose
condensate under variable e.m. field.
Giovanni Modanese
I.N.F.N. [ Gruppo Collegato di Trento
Dipartimento di Fisica dell'Universita
I-38050 Povo (TN) - Italy
and

John Schnurer
Director Applied Sciences
Physics Engineering
P.O. Box CN 446, Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387-0466 - U.S.A.

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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 08:28 PM
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CONTINUED FROM ABOVE...



This looks promissing for it's general physics which
is allowable by today's advanced computer controlled
power and flight envelope systems.

it wasn't a possible concept in 2005 but is NOW USABLE
due to powerful GPU-based computing systems that can
perfrom real-time field effects control.

Space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state
US 6960975 B1

Publication number US6960975 B1
Publication type Grant
Application number US 11/079,670
Publication date 1 Nov 2005
Filing date 14 Mar 2005
Priority date 4 Aug 2003
Fee status Lapsed
Inventors Boris Volfson

Abstract
A space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state
is provided comprising a hollow superconductive shield, an inner shield,
a power source, a support structure, upper and lower means for
generating an electromagnetic field, and a flux modulation controller.
A cooled hollow superconductive shield is energized by an electromagnetic
field resulting in the quantized vortices of lattice ions projecting a
gravitomagnetic field that forms a spacetime curvature anomaly outside
the space vehicle. The spacetime curvature imbalance, the spacetime
curvature being the same as gravity, provides for the space vehicle's
propulsion. The space vehicle, surrounded by the spacetime anomaly,
may move at a speed approaching the light-speed characteristic
for the modified locale.


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SO ALL THE ABOVE LINKS AND PAPERS have SOME measure of theoretical
possibility. Many are Repeatable experiments or demonstrable lab results.

In some cases the authors themselves are controversial due to media exposure
but the work itself does have a basis in the scientific method and MANY have
some Heavy Hitter sponsors such as NASA, the U.S. Air Force and Big Time
Research Labs!

READ ON AND COMMENT AWAY !!!!



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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read on i shall. plenty to peruse and look into.



posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: StargateSG7

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: StargateSG7
a reply to: BASSPLYR


Also add in that his top secret security clearance
Would have taken 12 to 18 months to get, so as
A subcontractor Lazar would have been assigned temporarily to another project until he obtained his clearance. Someone needs to find some 80's era employment forms from EG&G or Kellog Brown and Root indicating Lazar was working on Civilian projects before they put him on a CAP or SAP project.
To



Working as a scientist on an ultra black project requires no security clearance, because they Hypothetically don't exist, therefore no clearance required.

Who's going to ever believe you if you spill the beans? and how are you going to show anyone the location if you cant get anywhere near the place, before becoming Vulture pickens?

Unkle Sammy doesn't care about their UFO stuff slipping out...years ago they hired Hollywood to build on propaganda to ensure folks believed they existed, so other programs could debunk them, ultimately creating confusion... plausible deniability, and compartmentalization took care of the rest....No threats needed and no one to answer to



ABSOLUTELY NOT HOW IT WORKS...SAP (Special Access Programs) and CAP (Compartmentalized Access) program have differences in routine but the prerequisite is the same ... A Secret or Top Secret clearance, a polygraph test every year and at the beginning a broad spectrum background check which can take between 12 and 18 months, a team based informational security briefing and an individual operations security briefing after signing your non-disclosure forms (NDA).
You will also receive a base operations and orientation meeting along with a briefing where
Your secure access card and/or biometric systems entry allows you to go within your
Building or Area of Operations Assignment.

If you see MP's as your building guards
your AoO is Secret. IF YOU see Cammo Dudes
you're a Top Secret AoO. AND if you see DEVGRU or 1st SOD-D then you're in a MAJIC AoO and you get to play with the Big Boy toys!!!

There is NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT!
The SAP and CAP induction procedure is the same! Only the level of security and from where your AoO guards are sourced are different.

Only the CIA does the variable and clandestine
Induction system since half their sources are
Basically criminals so their AoO security is more
"weird" and variable!


Yeah, Whatever
How the hell would you know what an Ultra Secret Ufo Scientific research team that's funded by the Atomic Energy Commission and was ran by Edward Teller would do? Were you Employed there Specifically ?

If i were to guess...Lazar had his security clearance when he worked for Los Alamos, Teller hired him to go do research with a different team with better pay, and the rest is history

Understand it was Teller that had Oppenheimer ran off and blackballed to take his job. They make up their own rules without government oversight, Because the Atomic Energy Commission IS the Shadow Government that runs this country




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posted on Aug, 4 2015 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: SPECULUM
Understand it was Teller that had Oppenheimer ran off and blackballed to take his job. They make up their own rules without government oversight, Because the Atomic Energy Commission IS the Shadow Government that runs this country





Not since about 1975, I wouldn't think...



posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 12:52 AM
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Lazar was unlikely to have been hired directly
by Los Alamos...he had and has no credentials
or affiliation with the Department of Energy or
the University Of California who have significant
oversight Of Los Alamos.

And somewhere in some interview I think (not fully sure) that he admitted he was a contractor and
not a permanent employee!

That means he was LIKELY an employee of EG&G
Or Kellog Brown and Root. Again, I also BELIEVE
His education has more to do with mechanical engineering and another major that is quite likely
to be nuclear chemistry.

I also believe the S4 he is talking about
is in UTAH and NOT the Papoose lake
near Area 51 as he describes!

I think that was a deliberate throw-away line
To keep the ufo crazies away...IMHO !!!

Question: Were you employed there directly?

Answer: NO! But here's a lttle hint...

The sauce in the Sloppy Joes in the
caf by "The Dungeon" should have been
reddish brown...NOT almost bright orange....
Who does that? You know who you are !!!!



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posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 01:02 AM
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After my experience in the navy something I learned was that the navy or militar does not handle RnD they contract out all of the secret work to private companies who then handle everything quietly in order to maintain secrecy from the military itself until they are ready to release the tech.



posted on Aug, 5 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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Great thread with great opinions it's this kind of stuff that got me interested in the whole conspiracy and alternative media ... my 2cents Bob Lazar does come across as a more honest man than some of these other charlatans but maybe thats just me loving the romance of exotic alien tech



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: theruthlessone
Great thread with great opinions it's this kind of stuff that got me interested in the whole conspiracy and alternative media ... my 2cents Bob Lazar does come across as a more honest man than some of these other charlatans but maybe thats just me loving the romance of exotic alien tech


...

Here is more info field effects inventors
Who might be able to validate your belieif
In Bob Lazar's claims:

Repulsine Engine by Viktor Schauberger:

discaircraft.greyfalcon.us...

Background info:
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Very rare information on disc aircraft done
By 1930's and 1940's era Germany.
VERY UNUSUAL ... Read all links!

discaircraft.greyfalcon.us...

......

Cavity Structural Effect wiki
en.m.wikipedia.org...



Generic Background
www.villesresearch.com...



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 01:04 AM
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The above Cavity Structural Effect is technically
Just a form of acoustic, microwave or RF Cavity Resonator being used for propulsion rather than
For communications and radar purposes.

Resonator Background
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Resonant Cavity Thruster
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Quantum Vacuum Thruster
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Microwave cavity
en.m.wikipedia.org...

NASA test results on a CSE drive
ntrs.nasa.gov...

Using biomimicry of cavity structures found in nature we scale them up and make the natural
CSE designs out of titanium or ceramic composite
and increase the power and BOOM we have got ourselves a working space drive....!!!

The theory falls under the physics of waveguides,
wave summing and harmonics !!!
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posted on Aug, 9 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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If he is telling the truth he would have been arrested for divulging government secrets. He would have been arrested for taking material from a government lab and giving it to a reporter.


That is your reasoning for discrediting a possible whistle-blower??? If he was arrested, then it would would give more merit to Lazar's story. You don't kill a whistle blower and turn him into a truth martyr. You discredit that person and make him look like a loon.

Why are you even here if you can only think in black and white reasoning? If something doesn't fit in your box of perception, then it is impossible. It seems like you're only looking for the type of people who believe everybody in the government are reptilians, so you can laugh at them.

There are a lot of stories from credible people out there. Saying it is all a sham because they can't provide an alien in a hand-basket for you is just pure intellectual laziness.




I am amazed that normally intelligent people buy in to the UFO nonsense and allow their imaginations to suck their lives out of reality and into a fantasy world.


Like religion or spirituality does? Is all spirituality or religion nonsense because a lot of it has shown to be?
If multiple credible historians from the past said someone existed or some event happened, but today's archeologists could not verify it, does that mean the historians were just making it up?
I'm not saying witness accounts mean something is 100% accurate or truthful, but having only witnesses as evidence doesn't make something untruthful or wrong either.

Or is this not relatable, because UFOs don't exist in your mind's idea of realistic possibilities?



posted on Aug, 9 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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something was erased from box 16 on the form and from box 16a.


If you flood fill those boxes you can see it does look like there is an erasure in both. Good catch!




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