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Tuberculosis and Marijuana




Topic started on 29-12-2004 @ 07:18 AM by Mayet


The Australian Man Now

www.southburnett.net...
southburnett.net... <-- wifes log
southburnett.net... <-- Evidence


refusal of treatment and misdiagnosis sinister, or just a lack of people who know what they are doing?

marijuana has been proven to be benificial to the lungs. It was used as the cure for tuberculosis until the prohabition of the drug around 1930.

We have an Australian man, with major symptoms and signs of the disease except for one thing that is stopping diagnosis, his lungs although full of pleurisy and pneumonia, are clear of damage from tuberculosis.

An operation in March 2004 on a lymph node tumour revealed histologically a necrotizing granulomous growth with epitheliod histocytes and Giant cells, only found in advanced tuberculosis patients. Proper testing was not carried out.

Night Sweats

He had a proven contact with the disease, with his ex mother in law being treated in hospital in 1998 and his ex father in law dying of lung complications in 94.

He was not informed by the government or the family at the time of the contact, it was hushed up and only found out less than a month ago that he had lived in the same house as this woman while she was contagious for a period of six months. He always blamed listening to his mother in law coughing and hacking full time was the final strain in his first marriage.

He was tested by mantoux testing and he came back 5mm positive, his 2nd wife also suffering disease symptoms also came back 5mm positive with the lump breaking out worse for three weeks after the test.

In Australia, the state of Queensland all roads lead to The Brisbane Chest Clinic.
No Doctor in Queensland can peform a simple mantoux skin test for tuberculosis, only this Brisbane Chest Clinic.

When family and friends of the family contacted doctors to request skin testing ALL were refused. They were told that the 47 year old was not positive and no testing of anyone would take place. The wife at this point demanded testing for herself and children and took the case to the state premier.

Testing was eventually reluctantly agreed to for the family only.
The wife and one son came back with results. This son was diagnosed fail to thrive with a severe lung problem two years ago but tuberculosis wasnt tested for as no known contact had been made and the state refuses testing .

The wife had been told by her own doctor, who practised in South Africa prior to Australia that she in fact may have tb of the bowel, as the wife has crohns disease and weighs only 46 kilos. Once again though no testing was done prior as no knowing contact was made.

Wife's Arm - Suspiciously like Cutaneous Tuberculosis

After the families test, relatives tried once again to get testing for themsevles to be point blank refused by The Brisbane Chest Clinic and told that the wife was "panicking" and no one was positive. The chest clinic told the wife not to tell anyone that her husband may have tb as he didnt want to have to handle an epidemic of enquiries.

The sons test was written as 7mm result but from photographic evidence the reaction showed to be much larger than that.

Sons Test Photo taken one hour before results were read - 7mm?

Still the state refuses to start treatment, still the state refuses to confirm diagnosis and still the family sit around waiting to die.

Why is this? Does Australia refuse to admit they may have dropped the ball and had someone running around for nearly ten years with tb in them to spread around? Is it because it is Christmas and the state does not want to lose the tourism dollar?

Or is it tha fact that this man has defied odds by living with the disese for so long and defied the odds more by having wonderfully clear lungs.

It is refused to believe someone could live that long at the stage the man is at.

The man smokes marijuana every day, so he is smoking the ol fashioned cure for the disease.
IS the marijuana keeping the bacteria in check?

The doctors are not allowed to even look at the possibilites due to treaties signed against the use of marijuana for medical purposes and testing.

Is the government waiting for this father of nine children, the youngest being 5 months old to die so their problem goes away?



Two years ago

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reply posted on 29-12-2004 @ 11:43 AM by Linux


It may be whats keeping the man alive. I do support legalizing marijuana for specific purposes but lets keep in mind that marijuana actually depresses the immune system, making chronic smokers more susceptible to illness and infections most notable is bronchitis. It depends greatly on the case and how its going to be applied, I would not recommend AIDS patients given marijuana for that reason. I would like to see conclusive tests on marijuana being used to treat glaucoma since usage increases the blood flow through mucuous membranes, usually resulting in conjunctivitis. This relieves pressure from behind the eyes.



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 03:05 AM by Croat56


Hey its just another reason for me to smoke marijuana



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 05:53 AM by Mayet





It is sad actually that no testing of marijuanas capabilities for healing happens. It can be used for so many therapeutic things including childbirth and the hemp makes excellent fibre for clothes and other items.

I make an arthritis tincture that I have been told is wonderful out of golden feverfew and swamp pennywort and I slipped a bud or two or maybe three in one batch I made.

The guy that was using it came back to me in less than a week asking me what the hell i had put in it. I asked him why and he reached over and kissed me on the cheek and hugged me and said thanks..apparently the tincture cleaned his lungs and after he had drank it, he would get all the gunk off his lungs and his bad lungs cleared up within a week to where he threw away all other medications.

I would like to experiment more in this area but the legalities are constraining of course.

Does anyone know of any other cures marijuana has been involved in. I know it helps nausea of chemotherapy and helps aids patients and cancer patients with appetitie and stopping so much weight loss.

Arthritis Tincture Recipe

Using a brown glass jar (clear glass is ok but has to be covered.
Fill the jar (stuff as much as you can in) with half golden feverfew and half swamp pennywort.

Pour in ethanol until it is covered and shake the jar. Place the jar in a dark warm cupboard for two weeks taking it out to turn and shake it daily.

The mixture will go bright green and is ready when all the colour is drained out of the herb stock, leaving it brown and wasted looking. Strain and place back in same Jar or another Brown glass jar and keep in a dark warm spot.

To use.

It tastes filthy, like metho but the best way to take it is by the spoonful. As the alcohol burns its way down the throat and passages it opens up the cells and the herb infuses straight into the body.

It does taste gross and if that is too much for your lil tastebuds then place the spoonful in a glass of orange juice and drink it down. The tincture can be used locally also, rubbed on hot spots that are crippled by the disease.


I have a great cramp cure and sore throat cure too if anyone wants the recipes

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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 01:52 PM by _BLiND_


It all comes down to money, can you grow your own cotton and other fibers in your backyard for personal use? No. (well you could but..)

Marijuana / hemp, easily growable by the general public and can be used for alot of purposes, rope, clothes, healing properties.

The medical corporations would lose alot of money, so I doubt it will be legalized anytime soon.

I have been smoking marijuana for about 3 years now, havent been sick once. If I do get sick, its mostly just around for 1 day. ANyways..WeEd = GoOD TiMES.



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 02:18 PM by TheGatekeeper


Ive smoked MaryJane almost every day since 1979..Im never sick,well maybe twice..No grey hair and Im over 45. No wrinkles..Great eyesight..And eveyone thinks Im around 29 years old...Seems to work for me..And I own and run a large company.I guess it helps on stress because I dont drink alcohol..Peace.



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 02:53 PM by Mayet


That's funny you should say that about the aging.

I am 38 years old with six children and much stress over the years and often told I look younger.

Not bragging but my daughter and i went out for a walk in town last week and we were followed by a car load of idiots asking us if we were over 16. It was hilarious as well as super embarrassing.

My husband, the dude above, yes I am the wife, looks like he is in his 30's no grey hair but is in fact almost 50.
Mayet and The Eye of Ra

theres a pic of Eye of Ra and myself taken a month ago



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 03:51 PM by Eye Of Ra


as it says on my mobile phone cover..."man made booze...nature made weed...who do you trust"

i prefer natural remidies rather than man made drugs in order to help me if im hurt or ill. its funny how alovera, tomatoe and weed are just some of the plants that can fix almost any problem.

i have been very sick over the past 6 months, i have lost 10kgs over the past month and look like a gross twig...my stomach is so messed up that unless i smoke weed i can't eat or function normally. (i havn't kept any thing down for at least a week) The doctors are still doing tests to work out why i am so sick. but untill this 6 moth parade of needles and other tests ends, im going to count on my only ali...Marijuana!



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reply posted on 30-12-2004 @ 04:19 PM by sardion2000


Right on Eye Of Ra! You seem to be denying ignorance quite well Neat Avatar btw, I love Egyptian mythology and Stargate SG1 We should have an avatar awards...I think I'm gonna post this in the board forum.



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reply posted on 6-1-2005 @ 03:36 PM by joepits



Originally posted by Linux
It may be whats keeping the man alive. I do support legalizing marijuana for specific purposes but lets keep in mind that marijuana actually depresses the immune system, making chronic smokers more susceptible to illness and infections most notable is bronchitis..


the occasional toke actually improves the immune system by giving one good orgone energy aka qi. smoking has also been found to dissolve cancer.



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reply posted on 6-1-2005 @ 05:06 PM by muzzleflash


ive been smoking mary for over 10years

i havent been sick once
i have sneezed a few times in this decade tho

i got sick from food poisoning tho a few years back
thanks BURGER KING

lol isnt it funny???

a buger king chicken mcwhopper is FAR more dangerous than 10years of smoking pot??

Legalize it now and uphold justice
but make the rule *must be 21 yrs old to smoke or buy it*

anyhow, its obvious that marijuana is good for the soul and body lol
theres Too many tests around the world going in that direction to dismiss it

plus if you legalize pot, the video game industry will thrive even more



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reply posted on 6-1-2005 @ 06:02 PM by jprophet420


there is a huge push out there for medical marijuana, but IMHO it is garbage. the reasoning behind my reasoning is this: medical marijuana can help in a few small cases, especially cancer. the problem is that it should not be illegal to ingest in the first place, and so a lot (if not most) of the people who want medical weed are just potheads like me. Taking care of the source problem (weed being illegal for any reason) is much better, then all the ppl who need it for a medical reason would have no problem getting it.



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reply posted on 6-1-2005 @ 06:24 PM by Linux



Originally posted by joepits

Originally posted by Linux
It may be whats keeping the man alive. I do support legalizing marijuana for specific purposes but lets keep in mind that marijuana actually depresses the immune system, making chronic smokers more susceptible to illness and infections most notable is bronchitis..


the occasional toke actually improves the immune system by giving one good orgone energy aka qi. smoking has also been found to dissolve cancer.


Yes it does (not sure about the qi stuff) but even Homeopathic remedies require dosages high enough to damage the cilia. When your lungs open due to marijuana smoke (yes its a bronchodilator) your lungs are at greater risk of impurities attacking.

Lets get something straight - inhaling ANY debris from plants is harmful, I don't care what your smoking.

Lastly i am infact pro-marijuana. I believe everyone has the rights to what they put into thier own system.



Marijuana cannabinoids are considered to be immunomodulators that have the ability to either increase or decrease immune function (Klein 102). In fact, "studies suggest that cannabinoids modulate the function of T and B lymphocytes as well as NK cells and macrophages (Klein 102). Thus, cannbinoids have the immunomodulatory ability to enhance the disease process; therefore, recreational use of marijuana increases susceptibility of humans to infectious disease. For example, younger teenagers who have abuse this drug have been reported to have increased incidence of infection (Srivastava 451).



www.onlinepot.org...

So there may be truth in both sides of the arguement but generally speaking damage done to the lungs caused by smoking marijuana is inevitable - if you don't believe that, your becoming delusional.



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