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posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: danielsil18
a reply to: beezzer

Beezer, have faith in Jesus and you will have a prosperous and happy life.


I think everyone has faith.

Some have faith in Jesus.
Some have faith in God, god, Goddess, goddess, and or the plural of each.
Some have faith in man.
Some have faith in government.

My faith is very personal.




posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: danielsil18

originally posted by: Cuervo

originally posted by: danielsil18
a reply to: Cuervo

why?


If I argued my own case, that would be the opposite of what this thread is trying to do. We are supposed to be arguing on behalf of other perspectives.


Wait... so you actually believe in several gods?

Then you can be the evil atheist.

Why dont you believe in God?


That's not nearly as fun but okay.

Below is "Atheist Cuervo":

Why do I not believe in "God"? Simple. There are no reasons to believe in your god. Having faith in a abstract such as your god is no different than having faith in underwear gnomes. Since I don't have any compelling reason to believe in underwear gnomes, I do not feel there can be any reprisal for my unbelief. As an atheist, I do not insist that your god does not exist, just that he is as likely to exist as underwear gnomes. I cannot disprove underwear gnomes, either.
edit on 1-8-2015 by Cuervo because: spellinz



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: danielsil18


Ok Buzzy, tell me why dont you believe in God.


PSSST: I'm on your team. Playing a Christian.


I see, but what kind of Christian?

Do you believe in going to Heaven with faith and work or just faith?



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Everyone having faith is proof the God is real because he created all of us with faith so we all could find him before dying.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: danielsil18

Oh! Okay - Well, some people (like me) believe that you can just have faith and do nothing. Just say "Jesus", and it's all good. Nothing else required.

Once saved, always saved. But, you can't do that until you are of age to make conscious decisions.....

Other people think *eyeroll* that a baby getting baptized means anything!

And then, there are the ones who say you have to do 'works' for any of it to count! Pfffttt (Wrong!!) *eyeroll*



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: danielsil18
a reply to: beezzer

Everyone having faith is proof the God is real because he created all of us with faith so we all could find him before dying.


God may believe in everyone, but everyone doesn't believe in God.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo


underwear gnomes.


*raises hand*

Wait - what are underwear gnomes?



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

You are wrong when you say that there are no reasons to believe in God.

Why do you go to school? to have a better future. Same with believing in God.

Not only will God help you have a better life, but you will live happy for eternity in Heaven.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Cuervo


underwear gnomes.


*raises hand*

Wait - what are underwear gnomes?


Exactly.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: danielsil18
a reply to: Cuervo

You are wrong when you say that there are no reasons to believe in God.

Why do you go to school? to have a better future. Same with believing in God.

Not only will God help you have a better life, but you will live happy for eternity in Heaven.





"Atheist Cuervo" responding:

That makes no sense. Again, if a person told me that underwear gnomes provided me with a better life and eternity in gnome heaven, how does that convince me they exist? All it says is that an urban legend has more urban legends attached to it.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Thats not very clear can you elaborate



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Yeah, why do people think that they have to do work to reach Heaven when the Bible CLEARLY states that you only have to have faith.

Jesus 13:7 "Have faith in me and you will go to heaven."



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: danielsil18

High five!!



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: danielsil18




The proof is the Bible because the Bible is the word of God.



Ok so I would concede that if God exist then his word is true, but what makes you think he exist and what makes you think the Bible is his word?



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

Bu you can only know God if you have faith in him.

Not believing in God is also proof that the Bible is true because it says that Satan is the greatest liar and he obviously lied to you about God not existing. The proof is in the Bible.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

Then tell us what you are an I will argue the antithesis of whatever you claim.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Oop!! Too late. He's playing Atheist. You're disqualified from being his opponent. He's on your side.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs




Well, no matter - that's what I was doing. Using apolotist arguments to convince you (pretend atheist) that I am right.
But, I conceded. YOUR TEAM (the ones pretending to be atheists) wins.

(Works in real life, too!)

by the way, you did a pretty good job! How did I do?


If those are the only "arguments" you've heard of I think you need to do a little more digging cause from my perspective it seems like you haven't ever really given my side a fair chance, and hopefully after this thread is done everyone can see that Ive given atheism and agnosticism a fair chance.

Nothing that you have said is any attempt to produce any form of physical or logical evidence for the existence of God.



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Look, teach. You started the game and then went on a lengthy smoke break or something.
Get caught up, and then you may resume supervision here.

Besides, you obviously didn't read THE REST of the wall of argument/text that I posted.




edit on 8/1/2015 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 1 2015 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

You talk a lot about faith but I still don't know what idea is in your head when you say that word.



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