originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: krosnos
I agree with the nun 100%
I'm pro choice but at a certain time during a pregnancy its murder
IF we could just compromise in this country we could maybe get some of the issues resolved. Like making abortion illigal after a certain stage in
pregnancy, making condoms free etc.
its 2015 people get with the program
In my opinion, it's not murder, or at least in many cases it is not.
the life of the child is dependent on the mother giving of herself to it, and for most of the pregnancy only she can give what is required. what is
required can vary greatly from one women to another and not only involves health issues but could also involve, her financial situation, what kind of
responsibilities is being demanded of her in her day to day life, and weather or not there is enough support surround her to take over those
responsibilities if need be. and, I don't see how it can be justified to expect her to sacrifice more for an unborn fetus than we would expect
someone to sacrifice in any other situation.
for example, legally we cannot force anyone to donate an organ to save another's life, so well, if a pregnancy is causing damage to organs, we
shouldn't be expecting the mother to willingly give up her sight for the sake of the unborn child.
or, no one on these boards would donate their job for the unemployed parent so they could feed and clothe their children, so maybe if the job that the
women is doing is too toxic for a developing baby, we shouldn't be expecting her to give up her job when the earnings she is bringing home is putting
food on the table for her kids or providing them with the healthcare they need.
any compromise would have to come with something like an undue burden test that would have to exceed the "health and life of the mother, and rape"
bit that now seems to be the norm and would have to be judged fairly, couldn't be too intrusive on the mother and her family, and well, I just don't
see that happening.
Not when the pro-life crowd seems to have the idea that it's "nature's law" that a women would want to do anything to protect the fetus and if she is
not willing, well there's just something wrong with her. not when they are proclaiming that doctors and nurses are lying, even when the doctors and
nurses are saying that the nine year old rape victim cannot deliver twins without damage to her own developing body! and not when every danged hot
button story that pops up ends up being the centerpieces for talk shows and discussion forums like this one.
so well, my suggestion to people would be to work on coming up with a system that will not force women to sacrifice more than you yourself would for
your neighbors, your friends. because well... if you are willing to beat war drums eager to send our military out to bomb cities and villages to
protect your "way of life" you have no business expecting any women to give up her life, her health, possibly her living children if the pregnancy
causes a debilitating problem that prohibits her from caring for them properly, or even causes her to ration the food to feed her children.... if you
are not willing to risk losing you way of life when the bs starts painting a picture of a iran's nuclear bomb, then well, who are you to talk.