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whats wrong with france ??????????

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posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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a very simple question - which i would ask all migrants who are attempting to enter the UK .

so :

what is wrong with france ?

i of course have a list
but the are decidedly petty - and benefit from my privelidge of being a UK citizen with my own home and a modest income

i have however - as a mental exercise - attempted to answer the question , given the premise :

a currently ` statless person ` ensconced in france has 3 viable options :

1 - apply for asylum in france

2 - live as an undocumented worker in france with the risks and benedits entailed

3 - risk death attempting to penetrate the UK border - in the hope of :

3a - being granted asylym in the UK [ hint - if the french wont grant you asylum - the chances that HMG will are zero ]

3b - living undocumented in the UK - with the attendant risk / benefit

and i simply cannot resolve it - i see no actual benefit that is worth the risk to my life

so - can anyone explain it ??????????




posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

That's a great question. France is a beautiful place. the Fascism and rigged elections are less severe than the UK.

With this latest fraudulent election, the UK is over the deep end with the US and Israel.

Orwell and Huxley saw the whole thing coming. BTW, I'm not currently stateless, but the way things are going, that will probably change.
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posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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Because France don't give illegal immigrants free food, money, clothes, housing, health care, education and public transport.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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Up to now, this year only, 37,000 people tried to use the Eurotunnel.

My view on this is that the people coming from Africa are coming from a huge variety of countries, cultures and last but not least, with different sets of learned languages.

If you are from Tunesia, chances are high that you speak French fluently.
If you are from Eritrea, you might speak English very well.

Therefore, why should you live in a country where you don't speak the language, but in the next country over there, just through this tunnel, maybe on this lorry or that train over there, you could understand anything as you speak English far better than French?

I guess that is one of the major points for the immigrants trying to come to the UK.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

They are doing the very opposite of what I tried to do. I ran away TO France. A beautiful people and country. I was poorly there and they took good care of me in hospital. Merci la France.

The UK is the land of milk and honey, obviously. I'm just not seeing that. Good luck migrant people. Sorry that people are not helping you.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: NeoSpace

That is not true. For the interested reader.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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Maybe if we didn't drop the bombs and destabilise the region, they wouldn't have to leave .

Sometimes it really is better the devil you know !

Isn't it Putin , my friend Putin .



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

Desperate people will do desperate things. War, famine, AUSTERITY make people desperate for survival and people become largely insane at that point. I don't think you will find a sane reason for this behavior but I would expect increasing amounts of this behavior.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Denoli
Maybe if we didn't drop the bombs and destabilise the region, they wouldn't have to leave .

Your're answering the wrong question.
The puzzle being expressed in the OP is "Why are they so desperate to leave France?"
"We" haven't been dropping bombs on France, have we?



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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France and the UK continue to panic over the immigrant influx without addressing the abhorrent foreign policy of oil wars that fuels it. These people are fleeing with infants in their arms, risking their lives to get out of their own countries, where they would gladly stay were it at peace. What are Europeans doing to establish peace and stability in these regions? What have they ever done?

They are getting their just desserts.






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posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:21 PM
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I like to get to the root of a problem , not trim the odd branch .
Sorry for going off topic



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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interesting this thread popped up.
i just started researching moving to france.

the company i work for has a foundry in toulon.
i just started so i am not even going to approach the subject for at least a year but if i keep liking what i read and hear, i think i am going to try to go for it.
i know my company does international transfers.

we just got a guy that came in from france and we have another that transferred from south africa.

i need a change of pace. a different way of life if you will. i dont like the way things are going here in the states. my family and i will always have citizenship here.

so far i like the things i have been reading about france. i also want to travel. i want to see spain, italy, and ireland and such. it would be a lot easier to see these places if my home base was a quick jump away.

if anyone has moved there from another country i would be very interested in your opinions on it.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape




so : what is wrong with france ?

Rumor has it that the French are rude.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a very simple question - which i would ask all migrants who are attempting to enter the UK .

so :

what is wrong with france ???????


It's filled with French people.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

Forget France!

Come on over to America!
We've got plenty of jobs, healthcare for all and total freedom!

Come on over, every first time immigrant gets complimentary rifle and a copy of the Constitution!




Hurry, hurry! Step right up!
See JoJo, the dog-faced boy,
See Wilma, the 600-pound fat lady.
See The Snakeman: half snake, half man.


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posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: Denoli

You're not getting to the root of the problem, because most of these immigrants, are from Somalia and other African nations with a few of those libyans and Syrians being the minority.

These are economic immigrants that is all. They've heard of the soft touch England and that is why when you ask them where they want to go, the usual response is, ' we want to go to England, we want to get a house and benefits.'

It's a disgrace, they think that they will get everything handed to them on a plate, and the worst thing is they will. At the tax payer's expense.

The people in charge of these claims are previous migrants themselves or lefty scum, who opened the floodgates in the first place.

The government will just ignore all the immigration, legal and illegal because it's all being done by design for several malevolent purposes, one being a cheap labour force.

The only party that could have saved the country was UKIP, unfortunately the last General election scared the political establishment so much that they also see this increase in immigration a future problem solver, as these immigrants won't be voting for UKIP.

The country is over! especially England, every day now is just another nail in the coffin. People had their chance, it's just a shame not enough people woke up to what was happening under their noses.

What the future holds, I can't say...but the country you grew up in is long gone.
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posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

Things wrong with France, this will be a starting off point.

1 Maginot line
2 it is full of the french
3 what isn't wrong with france
4 laziness on the part of it people
5 French people
6 people talk about Americans acting entitled, visit France once.


Cheese eating surrender monkeys!!

Sorry France, no hard feelings, we just aren't that into you.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

France is hard enough for a regular european immigrant (I am one) so no chance for a non european immigrant.

The bureaucracy is almost intolerable as can be the xenophobia. Most of france is rural and communal life is commonplace so fitting in is hard and often impossible.

Help is available if you can provide all the necessary paperwork as a european like passport, national insurance number etc and the only way to register for work is if you can wave a qualification or prove job experience.

The UK has made it TOO easy and the momentum is now at breaking point. I'm not surprised it's a popular destination.

Yes, France is a beautiful country, spoilt only by some of the French people who cannot step away from their regimented communal socialism and by-the-book administration for just about anything. No wonder the young French can't wait to travel and study abroad.

It would be a very hard life to arrive here without any language, any money or any pieces of paper to get started. You would get a typical shrug of the shoulders and a look of contempt.

There is no French dream.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: antoinemarionette
France and the UK continue to panic over the immigrant influx without addressing the abhorrent foreign policy of oil wars that fuels it. These people are fleeing with infants in their arms, risking their lives to get out of their own countries, where they would gladly stay were it at peace. What are Europeans doing to establish peace and stability in these regions? What have they ever done?

They are getting their just desserts.







Not sure what you expect them to do about it.

I'm nearly 40, the west has for most of that time tried one thing after another nonstop to do just what you said.

Nothing works.

Most of the continent of Africa is full of stupid people doing stupid things.

It will only stop when they are all dead.

Honestly, the only place worse than the Mideast, is Africa.

Maybe they, the Africans could try not raping and killing eachother, or maybe try not stealing the billions of food we ship there every year to intentionally starve to death other people.

That would never work though .

Hello we couldn't even force them to stop when we sent in troops.

You can't fix stupid, no matter what you do.



posted on Jul, 30 2015 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a very simple question - which i would ask all migrants who are attempting to enter the UK .

so :

what is wrong with france ???????


It's filled with French people.


Bingo!!!!

We have a winner!!!!



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