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Why Bernie Sanders Will Become the Democratic Nominee and Defeat Any Republican in 2016

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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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Bernie is not exactly a secret weapon, but he is proving to be kryptonite to the corporate politicians.


Bernie Sanders is down by just 8 points in New Hampshire and has gained tremendous momentum in Iowa. If the Vermont senator wins both the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary, the odds will favor him getting the Democratic nomination. What was once thought of as a long shot is becoming a reality, primarily because Bernie Sanders has energized his base while Hillary Clinton has been forced to defend against email and foreign donor scandals. However, this isn't the first time in recent history that a challenger to Clinton was once thought of as a long shot.



As for the Electoral College and Bernie Sanders, a closer look at the numbers and the electoral map shows that Vermont's senator is indeed a pragmatic choice (no email scandals, voted consistently on progressive issues before they were popular, energized a base of Democratic supporters) for Democratic nominee. Also, Sanders has a better chance than Hillary of defeating Jeb Bush or any other GOP challenger. According to a POLITICO piece titled The 2016 Results We Can Already Predict, Democrats across the nation simply have to vote in a similar manner to 2012 for Sanders to win:


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Go Bernie!!




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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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I would vote for Bernie if he were running against Bush. I don't know about the other candidates. The only problem with your logic is that the powers that be are not going to let Bernie get the nomination. I would bet that 'something' will come up that changes the outcome back to Hilary.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

But Sanders could run as an independent and that would surely cost Hilary the election.




edit:not if he is dead





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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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I saw a Bernie 2016 bumper sticker today! The word is getting out...

Go Bernie, GO!


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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:38 PM
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Because he's REAL.

Because he discusses REAL issues.

Because people are sick of the FAKES and their FAKE promises and FAKE concern and their transparent pandering.

I say he has a really good shot at it.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

Oh, I so hope the title of your thread comes true!

I think as time goes on, Sanders will be less of a long shot. Obama started out as a long shot too, and look what happened.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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Bernie's stance on gun control is enough to keep him out of the minds of a good chunk of independents.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: ChiefD
I tend to think that Obama was already promised the presidency. Hence why he ran as a nobody.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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Bernie has raised some impressive funding from INDIVIDUAL contributions too, not the PACS and corporate money the others count on.

A single issue, in balance to all the others, should not dissuade a person for voting for someone like this.

He kinda walks the walk, and I hope they don't and it doesn't get to him to the point where he changes.

Once they realize how viable he is as candidate, they'll be gunning for him big time too. Should be interesting to watch.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: Excallibacca

Yes for those that let the NRA do their voting for him, he will lose votes.

www.ontheissues.org...

His record is a little different.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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a positive attitude and wishful thinking are 2 different things my friend. jeb bush has already been chosen as the next one. just sit back and wait for election day........... civil war coming our way. too bad i won't be able to point this post out at the appropriate time.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

I remember when Obama was going to bring hope and change.

And everyone bought it.

I certainly hope Bernie doesn't change on America.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

That is a fair point.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I have my faith in Bernie though.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I often wonder after JFK, do our presidents toe the line to a higher power?

i.e. the military industrial complex






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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

I was referring to an article I read a few days ago maybe on Yahoo or some similar site. Bernie was saying that he has voted to ban certain types of "assault weapons", how he voted to close a "gunshow loophole" which to my knowledge never existed, and a he wanted background checks to be "stronger, more enforceable." The language he uses says to me that he has no idea what he's talking about. He went on to say "we need to find a common ground solution" (maybe not exact wording) but never offered what that solution may be.

No one running has a real plan, just doing lip-service.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

I just don't see Bernie being able to beat a Republican candidate, except *maybe* Trump.

The right will do anything they can to smear him (obviously), and they'll use the same old tactics. Thing is, they don't need to make up things, they will use his stated platform and policies against him. They always criticize democrats for being "socialists" and try to scare their base into voting against a sure "socialist" candidate that's going to destroy America (because Obama already destroyed it once, and there's your proof, so Bernie will destroy it even more). Well, they have Bernie saying as much—many times—and I'm sure they can rile their base enough to beat him. That's just my opinion, though.

I'd vote for Bernie over Hillary and definitely over any of those Republican clowns, I just don't see him beating them because of the above.

Hope I'm proved wrong.
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posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: Excallibacca

I think that article is being stretched.

He did recently say the current laws need to be enforced more.

I haven't see the vote though, so maybe we are talking about different things.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: Excallibacca
Bernie's stance on gun control is enough to keep him out of the minds of a good chunk of independents.


What stance? His position on Gun Control is what has some progressives worried.



Sanders' gun record puts him crosswise with Democratic rivals Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley—who have criticized the NRA and called for more gun control after a gunman massacred nine Americans at a historic black church in Charleston in June—as well as progressive activists who otherwise heap praise on him as a bold fighter for the middle class.

"We fight him when he's wrong," said Charles Chamberlain, the executive director of Democracy For America, a progressive advocacy group founded by Howard Dean. He called gun control an issue that's important to members of his group, and one "where our members would differ on Bernie's policies."


Progressives Remain Wary



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: beezzer

I often wonder after JFK, do our presidents toe the line to a higher power?

i.e. the military industrial complex







I don't know.

What I do know is that Bernie and I don't agree on anything other than maybe bacon bits on a salad.

And I still will vote for him because so many others disgust me.

Except for maybe a Trump/Palin run.

I'd have to do that just to see heads explode.



posted on Jul, 29 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

If it's a Trump-Palin ticket, think he'd get a chance to fire her before she quit?




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