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WTC-7 Mysteries FINALLY Solved.

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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:09 PM
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There are no demolition explosions in any WTC video. There was no sound of demolition explosions as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed, which explains why seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions as the WTc buildings collapsed.





Eyewitness Accounts

Eyewitnesses Recalled Explosions, No Alarms or Sprinklers



I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building.


I guess all these credible eyewitness are lairs to?


Eyewitness Jeff Birnbaum, president of Broadway Electrical Supply Co., New York, recalled events in the South Tower:

When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go. There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.


I assume you are going to tell me that Jeff Birnbaum was tripping on mushrooms too.


Eyewitness Neil deGrasse Tyson recounted his recollection of explosions at the onset of the collapses in an e-mail he sent to his family on the day after the attack:

I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.
...
As I dress for survival: boots, flashlight, wet towels, swimming goggles, bicycle helmet, gloves, I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC 1, the first of the two towers to have been hit. I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first.



The video 9/11, The Greatest Lie Ever Sold contains several excerpts of video reports in which witnesses describe what they saw and heard. In the first, a reporter gives the following account:

The chief of safety of the fire department of New York City told me he received word of the possibility of a secondary device: that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place and according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted within the building.
The second excerpt records the impressions of an amateur videographer:

45 minutes into the taping that we were doing there was an explosion -- it was way up where the fire was -- and the whole building at that point bellyed out, in flames, and everybody ran.
The third excerpt, a man in talk-show format panel states:

I was about five blocks away when I heard explosions -- three thuds -- and turned around to see the building we just got out of tend to tip over and fold in on itself.
The final clip shows a man in a hospital bed, with a video banner reading "AMERICA RESPONDS". He states:

and all of a sudden it sounded like gunfire -- you know, bang bang bang bang bang -- then all of a sudden three big explosions.
Neil deGrasse Tyson provided a graphic description of the South Tower collapse in an e-mail sent to his family and friends on 9/12/01.

John Bussey, foreign editor for the Wall Street Journal described the collapse of the South Tower thusly:

I heard this metallic roar, looked up and saw what I thought was just a peculiar site of individual floors, one after the other exploding outward. I thought to myself, “My God, they’re going to bring the building down.” And they, whoever they are, had set charges. In fact the building was imploding down. I saw the explosions, and I thought, ‘This is not a good place to be, because we’re too close to the building, and it’s too easy for the building to topple over.’


911research.wtc7.net...


which explains why seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions as the WTc buildings collapsed.


That is untrue.

SEISMIC "SPIKES"


Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded strange seismic activity on September 11 that has still not been explained.

While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.

The Palisades seismic record shows that -- as the collapses began -- a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.

A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph.

The two unexplained spikes are more than twenty times the amplitude of the other seismic waves associated with the collapses and occurred in the East-West seismic recording as the buildings began to fall.


www.911review.com...

Who are you trying to convince the OS is true? For every statement you make against the truth, I can back up my claims with credible evidence.

Now you can dismiss everything I put forth, however it proves you are in denial of the credible facts and refuse to examining the real evidence.


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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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Eyewitness Accounts

Eyewitnesses Recalled Explosions, No Alarms or Sprinklers


now, let's take a look at the rest of the story that you somehow overlooked.



The Elevator Man's Tale

We heard the explosion and within a matter of seconds after that impact, I heard – and as well as everybody else heard – this noise, this increasing sound of wind. And it was getting louder and louder. It was like a bomb, not quite the sound of a bomb coming down from a bomber. It was a sound of wind increasing, a whistling sound, increasing in sound.

What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level.

And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.


Excerpts from: "8 Hurt as Trade Center Elevator Rams Ceiling" by Dan Kadison, Adam Miller, Erika Martinez and Cathy Burke,New York Post, August 12, 2000, p.4.


The express elevator to the Sky Lobby at the World Trade Center roared 24 feet past its stop and slammed into a ceiling 960 feet above ground yesterday, injuring eight of 12 people trapped inside.

The trapped passengers - who were stuck in Elevator No. 20 about 15 feet above the 78th floor at Two World Trade Center - had to be escorted to safety in a heart-stopping operation conducted from the roof of a second, adjacent elevator.

"We didn't know if we would get out alive," Queens resident Richard Gallo, an electrical engineer at the building, told his wife, Helen. "Everyone was screaming. There was blood all over the place. We were really scared that the elevator was going to plunge to the ground...." "I've been riding the elevator for years" [added a co-worker]. "Occasionally they slip, it's not something you can focus on." Others [present] described the crash as sounding like a horrendous "boom." People "thought it was a bomb," said Kim Dunlap, a receptionist on the 100th floor. It rocked the building.

As soon as we arrived, 84, a massive explosion goes off, and at this point we didn't know what it was. We thought it was a secondary explosion. We didn't know that it was a second plane. In fact, I didn't know there was a second plane until much later in the evening.

www.npr.org...

We figured by the time we got to the fifth or sixth floor, that’s when the south tower was hit. I had no idea the south tower was hit, and I don’t think that Chief Jonas – Captain Jonas at the time – or Lieutenant Foti knew at that point either. I remember the whole north tower literally vibrated. The only way I can explain it is if you were at the edge of a subway platform and the train was coming in, you felt that wind and the sound, but with an added effect like the floor vibrated. Everybody just cringed and really was not sure what was going on. I just assumed that it was something above us. I had no idea that the south tower was hit.

"As we got near the top of the escalator that brings you to ground level from five floors below, we heard what sounded like a bomb going off," Seebode said. "It was the second plane hitting World Trade Center."


In other words, the explosive-like sounds had nothing to do with explosives and in fact, the sounds were generated by falling elevators. The following is an example of how 911 Truthers have been taken for a ride.



Louie Cacchioli, 51, is a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem.

We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building.


Now, let's read the rest of the story.



Why did Louie Cacchioli become upset?

Cacchioli was upset that People Magazine misquoted him, saying "there were bombs" in the building when all he said was he heard "what sounded like bombs" without having definitive proof bombs were actually detonated.


Now, further accounts of what they thought, were explosions.


it was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion,

but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other.

Susan W. F.

"We were ushered into the Port Authority office on the 78th floor... As I turned to watch some of my fellow co-workers making phone calls, there was a second ka-boom, the building shook again and debris started hitting the windows... I thought some part of the plane or some part of the building that had been hit by the plane had exploded and debris was sliding down from the floors above us.

I would later learn it was a second airplane diving into the other tower and it was debris from that explosion hitting the windows."

And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower,somewhere about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire floor area, a ring right around the building blew out.

I later realized that the building had started to collapse already and this was the ai:r being compressed and that is the floor that let go.


I looked up and you could actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an explosion up there, it blew out. Then I guess in some sense of time we looked at it and realized, no, actually it just collapsed. That ís what blew out the windows, not that there was an explosion there but that windows blew out.


I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever.


Craig Carlsen said that he and other firefighters “heard explosions coming from . . . the south tower. . . . There were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down” (NYT, Carlsen, pp. 5-6).

Now, the rest of Mr. Carlen's story.

...there were about ten explosions...At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.

graphics...


In 2014, a replay of the NBC newcast was shown on TV and in that report, firefighters reported that the sound of explosions they heard was the result of exploding gas lines.

To sum it up, no one heard demolition explosions in regard to the 9/11 attack.
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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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Nothing about hearsay, considering nations around the world and even al-Qaeda admit they were also involved, which is why they released the martyr videos of the 9/11 hijackers.


Untrue.

CIA Admits Bin Laden Videos are Fake!


Two former CIA officials have admitted to creating a fake video in which intelligence officers dressed up as Osama Bin Laden and his cronies in an effort to defame the terrorist leader throughout the middle east

The details are outlined in a Washington Post article by investigative reporter and former Army Intelligence case officer Jeff Stein.


www.ascertainthetruth.com...:cia-admits-bin-laden-videos-are-fake&Itemid=115

Sorry your "opinions" do not hold water.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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now, let's take a look at the rest of the story that you somehow overlooked.


Like my story you just "over looked"


Eyewitness Accounts

Eyewitnesses Recalled Explosions, No Alarms or Sprinklers



I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building.


I guess all these credible eyewitness are lairs to?


Eyewitness Jeff Birnbaum, president of Broadway Electrical Supply Co., New York, recalled events in the South Tower:

When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go. There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.


I assume you are going to tell me that Jeff Birnbaum was tripping on mushrooms too.


Eyewitness Neil deGrasse Tyson recounted his recollection of explosions at the onset of the collapses in an e-mail he sent to his family on the day after the attack:

I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.
...
As I dress for survival: boots, flashlight, wet towels, swimming goggles, bicycle helmet, gloves, I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC 1, the first of the two towers to have been hit. I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first.


Care to make a commitment on this evidence?

edit on 10-8-2015 by Informer1958 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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The following is an example of how 911 Truthers have been taken for a ride.


You mean how OS believers have been taken for a ride.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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Damn It. Someone at those Propaganda Units found a new way to disrupt OS-dangerous forum threads.
Send someone in that first establishes some authority. Then let him/her post endless long posts with very STALE information, years old already. And repeat ad infinitum that all is still OK, all the Official Story details can be trusted...
Just keep it simple, do not react on such techniques, let the reader decide for themselves what is true and what is not.

Trying to be strictly non partisan, this is from the opposition sides too, read their arguments :

Tom Sullivan, Explosives Loader, on 9/11 "Single Column" at Metabunk.org.

Tom Sullivan, at 911myths.com.

911 Truth, Explosive Demolition and Occam's Razor.

What they all don't take in account : 9/11 wasn't a carefully planned row of demolitions, to ensure the least damage to surrounding properties at all costs.
The only goal was to bring them all three down in such a relatively SLOW manner, that the later operating colateral damage crews could easily sow doubt in the minds of the less educated, the usually silent majority. To keep them SILENT.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building.


Read the comment of the firefighter in my previous post who later ruled out bombs.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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In other words, the explosive-like sounds had nothing to do with explosives and in fact, the sounds were generated by falling elevators. The following is an example of how 911 Truthers have been taken for a ride.


The explosive-like sounds?? Who said the elevators where the explosions??? Do you just make up this crap as you go?



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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Read the comment of the firefighter in my previous post who later ruled out bombs.


Read my above post "proving" Firefighter ruled it was explosions.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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Eyewitness Jeff Birnbaum, president of Broadway Electrical Supply Co., New York, recalled events in the South Tower:

When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go. There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.


He never said anything about bombs as responsible. That sound is indicative of structural failure. Check out this video and you will hear the same "high-pitched noise and a popping noise" in the following video from time line 0:30 to 0:45 just before this crane collapsed.



Now, you know the rest of the story about explosive-like sounds that does not automatically translate into explosives.



Eyewitness Neil deGrasse Tyson recounted his recollection of explosions at the onset of the collapses in an e-mail he sent to his family on the day after the attack:

I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.


Now, let's take a close look at WTC 2 as it collapse and please point out the time line where demolition explosions are heard. If you are unable to point out the sound of demolition explosions as WTC 2 collapses, then I rest my case that no demolition explosives were used to bring down WTC 2.


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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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What makes you think the demo company had anything to do with the GPS?


Duh, it was their trucks and why would anyone want to steal a load of debris? Unless they wanted to make sure no one would discover something. Like remaining bomb making materials.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:43 PM
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He never said anything about bombs as responsible. That sound is indicative of structural failure. Check out this video and you will hear the same "high-pitched noise and a popping noise" in the following video from time line 0:30 to 0:45 just before this crane collapsed.


On the contrary he did!


Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.


Stop twisting eyewitness statements to fit your OS narratives.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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The explosive-like sounds?? Who said the elevators where the explosions??? Do you just make up this crap as you go?


let's take a look at the facts.



R1: What happened?

FM1: There was an explosion. We was in the lobby, and then *scrunch*, the whole lobby collapsed in on us.

R2: What was it like?

FM1: Horrible. It was horrible.

FM2: Like hell.

FM1: The whole building just collapsed on us… Inside the lobby.

R1: Was that a secondary explosion?

FM1: Yes it was. Definitely a secondary explosion. We was inside waiting to go upstairs, and on our way upstairs, the whole #ing thing blew. It just collapsed on everybody inside the lobby.

R1: Someone took the first tower coming down, secondary explosion?

FM1: I don’t know about the first one, but the second one, it was terrible. There was a third one too after that one.


I guess you were unaware of the fact. However, it was later determined that the sounds they heard was from falling elevators.



Robert Jones
Age: 52
Hometown: Montgomery
Family: Two children

Occupation: Elevator mechanic for Ace Elevator in the World Trade Center

Was in the south tower when the first plane hit.

As I turned around to go back toward the core of the building in the lobby, the second plane hit, and that shook the building.

We heard the explosion and within a matter of seconds after that impact, I heard – and as well as everybody else heard – this noise, this increasing sound of wind. And it was getting louder and louder. It was like a bomb, not quite the sound of a bomb coming down from a bomber. It was a sound of wind increasing, a whistling sound, increasing in sound.

I’m looking from the lobby up to a mezzanine area or the second floor where they lined up all the people to go up to the rooftop, and I’m looking up expecting something, building parts to be coming down, because I wasn’t quite sure what that noise was.

But I found out later, when the plane came through the building, it cut the hoist ropes, the governor ropes, of (the) 6 and 7 cars, which was the observation cars.

What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.

www.thrnewmedia.com...


Yet, Truthers falsely attributed the sounds in the lobby to bombs.
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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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If you are unable to point out the sound of demolition explosions as WTC 2 collapses, then I rest my case that no demolition explosives were used to bring down WTC 2.


I did prove my case
However you just clearly demonstrated that you have ignored eyewitness testimony who went on record.
Now I rest my case!



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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I guess you were unaware of the fact. However, it was later determined that the sounds they heard was from falling elevators.


I guess you are unaware of the facts it WAS NEVER determined that all the elevators were to cause of the explosions.
Only OS believe such nonsense because they want it to fit their narrative.


Yet, Truthers falsely attributed the sounds in the lobby to bombs.


No, only OS believer attributed to the sounds in the lobby to fit "their" narrative.
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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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I did prove my case.


No, you did not! I asked you to post the time lines in the WTC 1 and WTC 2 videos where demolition explosions can be heard and you failed to do so, which proved my point that no explosives of any kind was responsible for the demise of the WTC buildings.

Now, would you care to go back and point out the time lines in those videos that point out demolitoin explosions as requested or are you going to throw in the towel?


However you just clearly demonstrated that you have ignored eyewitness testimony who went on record.
Now I rest my case!


It is apparently that you ignored their comments where they later attributed the sounds they heard to things that had nothing to do with explosives.
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posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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I guess you are unaware of the facts it WAS NEVER determined that all the elevators were to cause of the explosions.


It is apparent that you haven't been paying attention



Elevator #6 and Elevator #7

What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.

www.thrnewmedia.com...



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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No, you did not! I asked you to post the time lines in the WTC 1 and WTC 2 videos where demolition explosions can be heard and you failed to do so, which proved my point that no explosives of any kind was responsible for the demise of the WTC buildings.


I don't need to, the hard cold facts is eyewitness verify there were many explosions in ALL the WTC demolitions.

Or are you going to call them ALL lairs too?



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:56 PM
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It is apparent that you haven't been paying attention


You sure haven't.



posted on Aug, 10 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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Explain for us all, which elevators were blamed for the explosive-like sounds in the lobby. If you say; Elevator #6 and Elevator #7, then you will be correct and you can follow up here.

www.thrnewmedia.com...




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