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I don't use satellites to measure the temperature in my basement, do you? Besides from that - I'm amazed that you can see anything on this crappy picture at all, the quality is miserable.
And the numerous metal-rich spherules (found in the dust) are just good enough to ignore them completely?
One more question, if you will bear with me. What was the source of the Molybdenum? It just kind of jumped out at me from the quoted text you posted. Wasn't an element I was expecting to see, I guess.
I get that collapsed structure fires, among others, can smolder for quite some time. [.quote]
That is correct. Rusting, or should I say, the oxidation process, produce heat, and there was a lot of steel in the rubble. Let's take a look.
here is a coal seam fire in Australia that's been burning since before recorded history. Not to mention the numerous ones that have been going for decades in the US. I was just wondering how much of a part you think iron oxidation played in this one in particular.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: DerekJR321
People seem to forget a simple thing called Newtons 3rd Law. The structure above the impact zone simply did not have enough energy to destroy 70+ floors of the towers. This is simple physics.
So simple truthers have trouble understanding physics! The structure above the impact zone had more than enough energy to destroy one floor, then had more energy to destroy another floor, then had enough energy to destroy another floor etc.
Explain to me how human remains ended up on top of the Deutsche Bank roof?
They could have been ejected when the plane hit the building, we know undercarriage, a engine, documents etc were ejected then...
The conservation of energy is a fundamental concept of physics along with the conservation of mass and the conservation of momentum. Within some problem domain, the amount of energy remains constant and energy is neither created nor destroyed.
The spherules are produced during the welding process during construction of steel frame buildings and it is impossible to remove all spherules complelely from a steel frame building after construction.
5. Sphere formation and size
Not only is it necessary for the material to have achieved extremely high temperatures to melt and so be able to form small spheres, it is also necessary that some violent physical disturbance occur in order to shatter the molten material into the sizes observed, 1.5mm down to about one micron diameter. Then surface tension in the liquid droplets brings about spherule formation. Various explosive chemical reactions will (for example) result in formation of spherules in the end products. The NIST report states that “no evidence” for explosives was found  but it is clear from these data that this issue should be addressed again.
Ok, I do appreciate the definition. But that's not really an answer. All the items it mentioned are carbon-based, and carbon oxidation in the presence of a heat source is known to be faster and more exothermic than iron oxidation during rust formation. At least typical rust formation.
As much as I hate to say this word in this thread, Thermite is far more exothermic, and iron oxide is one combustion product of it. But I'm not trying to get off on a tangent. I just don't quite get where you were going with the point about iron oxidation. We're you speaking of some specifically energetic form of it, or just general rusting? And to what degree do you believe that it played a role in the debris smouldering? Not trying to attack you, really. I just want to figure out what you were saying.
That's why I said I hated to mention Thermite in this thread. I wasn't saying that I thought it was used. I was just citing it as an example of an extremely exothermic oxidation reaction involving iron, among other things.
What I have been trying to ascertain is exactly how much of a factor do you believe this was in that instance. What I have been trying to ascertain is exactly how much of a factor do you believe this was in that instance.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: PublicOpinion
The spheres were the result of welding processes during construction and during clean-up operations as crews used high temp wands and torches.
originally posted by: DerekJR321
Here is a simple example. Two cars are traveling at 60mph in opposite directions. They collide head on. They will both crumple and then stop their momentum. One car will not continue to travel through the other.
In regards to the body parts found on top of surrounding buildings.. some were DNA identified as firefighters. So that takes care of you "bodies from the planes" theory.