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The quality of your work you have put into your threads here on ats is by far the best I've seen ,the evidence you have amassed should be pick up by mainstream media
Are you seriously claiming that stored iron had anything to do with the molten iron at WTC?
...The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. Even today, the media report (and many scientists believe) that the steel melted. It is argued that the jet fuel burns very hot, especially with so much fuel present. This is not true.... The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel.
The temperatures required for the observed spherule-formation and evaporation of materials observed in the WTC dust (table 1) are significantly higher than temperatures reachable by the burning of jet fuel and office materials in the WTC buildings (table 2). The temperatures required to melt iron (1,538 °C) and molybdenum (2,623 °C), and to vaporize lead (1,740 °C) and aluminosilicates (~2,760°C), are completely out of reach of the fires in the WTC buildings (maximum 1,100 °C). We wish to call attention to this discrepancy: the official view implicating fires as the main cause for the ultimate collapses of the WTC Towers and WTC 7 (FEMA, NIST ) is inadequate to explain this temperature gap and is therefore incomplete at best. The formation of numerous metal-rich spherules is also remarkable, for it implies formation of high-temperature droplets of the molten metals, dispersed in the air where they cool to form spherules. As displayed in figures 3 and 4, we observe spherules with high iron and aluminum contents, a chemical signature which is not consistent with formation from melted steel.
Wasn't the molten steel not only seen by firemen but also seen on camera AND the (I think it was NASA) thermo image of the devastated towers showed incredible heat from underneath the rubble, ie that of the heat molten steel would make.
Just annoys me that when the people who believe or are there to peddle the official story get involved it turns into a 'look at all those nut jobs' threads. The entire 9/11 story is so riddled with holes in the official story that it beggars belief anyone takes it totally seriously.
Where are the terrorists at the airport etc etc...
I don't want to hear about holographic planes, alien weapons, that is just a cheap shot to derail the thread, none of us who have the semblance of a brain believe in these crack pot theories,...
we just want to know why the NIST data is classified,...
... why there's STILL no footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon,
... how come the black boxes are classified,
Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon
The recent complete decoding of the FDR file has enlarged and clarified the information available and has thereby enabled resolution of the contradictions. It is clear that this file supports the official account of the course of flight AA 77 and the consequent impact with the Pentagon. The file thus also supports the majority of eyewitness reports.
American 77 Radar Tracking Data
Experts ID 184 Pentagon Fatalities
Many of the Pentagon casualties were badly burned and difficult to identify, an official said. Of the 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were passengers on American Airlines Flight 77.
From the January 2002 Mercury, an Army Medical Department publication
Passenger List Image 1
American 77 Passenger List Image 2
American Airlines Fleet
American 77 Information
American 77 Wreckage
American 77 Wreckage II
American 77 Wreckage III
American77 Wreckage IV
American 77 Wreckage V
The NASA images recorded temperatures that were far too low to melt steel.
originally posted by: pfishy
a reply to: Informer1958
I'm curious, is there any explanation of how it could have fallen 2 seconds faster than freefall? That would seem to defy pyisics, no matter what side of the issue one believes.
Not attacking your statement or anything, just wondering if you have any further information about that.
k, yes, oxidation is an an exothermic reaction.
And rust is indeed iron oxide. But if you would clarify yourpoint a bit further, are you saying the sustained heat in the rubble in the days following the collapse of the towers is due to iron oxidation? Or that it was at least a large contributing factor?
Burned buildings in Hinton could smolder for days
HINTON, W.Va. -- Hinton Fire Chief Ray Pivont says five apartment buildings destroyed by a fire could smolder for days.
Packing shed fire will continue to smolder for next few days
The fire that broke out earlier this week at the Bruce Church produce packing sheds will continue to smolder for the next couple of days and produce some light smoke, but there are no longer any flames coming from the site.
Read more: www.yumasun.c...l...
Centralia, Pennsylvania Fire Still Burns Underneath Town, 50 Years On
Fire Smolders Underground for 9 Months
Long smoldering fires