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WTC-7 Mysteries FINALLY Solved.

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posted on Nov, 9 2015 @ 11:58 PM
a reply to: Kadagraks

Farts then....

Definitely not a demolition explosion.

Demolition explosions sound like this;

Not like this.

Explosions sound like this.

Not like this.

Yeah, all that dust must be really structure damaging.

Such dust plumes are typical. Let's take a look at the large amount of dust generated by a demolition method that doesn't require the use of explosives.

edit on 10-11-2015 by skyeagle409 because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 08:11 AM
a reply to: skyeagle409

I don't see how controlled demolition of non-steel frame buildings explains a steel frame building NOT being demolished.

But it is great that you are aware that alternate demolition methods exist.

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 10:57 AM
a reply to: Kadagraks

I don't see how controlled demolition of non-steel frame buildings explains a steel frame building NOT being demolished.

But it is great that you are aware that alternate demolition methods exist.

Another method is the use of cables. Let's take a look how WTC 6 was brought down by cables.

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 11:21 AM
looks like demo I suspect as usual you didn't check out your own links.

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 11:22 AM

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Kadagraks

I don't see how controlled demolition of non-steel frame buildings explains a steel frame building NOT being demolished.

But it is great that you are aware that alternate demolition methods exist.

Another method is the use of cables. Let's take a look how WTC 6 was brought down by cables.

pull it lol with cables maybe that's what larry meant.

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 01:01 PM
a reply to: HorusChrist

It is all about what the videos depict, which of course, the lack of demolition explosions as WTC 7 collapsed.

posted on Nov, 10 2015 @ 01:03 PM
a reply to: HorusChrist

Larry Silverstein referred to the pulling out of firefighters, not explosives. BTW, the term; "Pull" does not apply to demolition explosives, it applies to the pulling down of buildings with cables.

Were cables used to pull down WTC 7?

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 02:37 AM
Readers should not be deceived by the term "pull".
They should worry about the term "it".
It's quite illogical to refer to firefighters as "it", everybody will address them as "them".

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 02:45 AM

originally posted by: LaBTop
Readers should not be deceived by the term "pull".
They should worry about the term "it".
It's quite illogical to refer to firefighters as "it", everybody will address them as "them".

When talking about a firefighting team "it" is a good term to use, so not illogical at all.

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 03:00 AM
Now that the WTC 7 mysteries are solved at last, you hope to learn of course, after my self chosen few months sabbatical off the 9/11 forum, why and how 9/11 was pulled off.
I have already given you the framework in my past recent threads, especially the one with all those "false" gold deposit documents in its first 4 pages. And the NSA/CIA insider E.P. Heidner links there to his websites. And the former US ambassador Leo Wanta link to his website in there.

Watch now online at for free (only inside America), the full 92 minutes long 2009 documentary,
"The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers" :

And FIRST see and hear for yourself which decisions during the Vietnam War era were told in public by government leaders and top brass military, while in secret they did exactly the opposite.
Which did cost 2 millions of precious life; Vietnamese the bulk of them and some 58,000 US life.
Since Vietnam, nothing has changed during the onset to 9/11/2001. And after it.

After that terrible day came the Iraq insurgency, the Afghan insurgency, the Libyan insurgency, the Egyptian insurgency and the Syrian insurgency, by the US & their usual western and mid-eastern Allies.
The western Allied countries and their vague allies are in fact steered by the USA its CIA and NSA (on their path to world supremacy), with assistance from the Israeli Mossad, the British Secret Services and a whole plethora of other western Allied secret services, since shortly after World War 2.

Watch that 92 minutes long documentary by Judith Ehrlich and Rick Goldsmith about Daniel Ellsberg, online for free at IMDb, for ALL viewers that can't view the PBS film :
You need to become a member at the International Movie Database (IMDb), click "Watchlist".
REGISTER for Free at IMDb.

Watch the 2:33 min IMDb-Trailer :
Clip of the first 3:09 minutes on :

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 03:05 AM
If you can't view it, because you live outside America and don't want to sign in at IMDb :
FULL typed out TRANSCRIPT of that 2009 documentary : "The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers".
Shows a VERY long full text of the PBS aired, 1.5 hours long documentary film about Elsberg & his Pentagon Papers story that led to Watergate, the resignation of Nixon and the end of the Vietnam War, as the ultimate end result :

The Pentagon, AUGUST 1964.
Ellsberg narration: On the morning of August 4th, 1964, I began my first full time employment in the Pentagon, working under Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. My very first day on the job, all hell broke loose.
Daniel Ellsberg (interview): A courier came running in with a flash cable saying that American warships were under attack in the Tonkin Gulf off the coast of North Vietnam. And I was getting these because my boss was already down the hall with McNamara picking targets to retaliate against, against North Vietnam. Minute after minute, more cables came in: "three torpedoes have been fired, seven, we are taking evasive action." At about 1:30 our time, comes new cable from the commodore of the two ships: hold everything in effect, "All previous reports of torpedoes are in question."
Daniel Ellsberg (interview): Within days it was clearer and clearer that there had been no attack.
President Johnson (archival): I shall immediately request the congress to pass a resolution.
Ellsberg narration: President Johnson was determined to prevent a communist victory in South Vietnam. He twisted the facts of the Tonkin Gulf incident to persuade congress to give him unlimited authority to use military force. He then launched a war that would last another 11 years.
President Johnson (archival): We still seek no wider war.
Daniel Ellsberg (interview): No wider war? As I found out day by day in the Pentagon, that was our highest priority: preparing a wider war which we expected to take place immediately after the election.
President Johnson (archival): It's a war that I think ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land. And for that reason, I haven't chosen to enlarge the war.
Daniel Ellsberg
(interview): And that was a conscious lie. We all knew that, inside the government, and not one of us told the press or the public or the electorate during that election. It was a well kept secret by thousands and thousands of people, including me.

I hope this red sentence will give food for thought for all those posters that said that if 9/11/2001 was a conspiracy, the beans would have been spilled already after 10 years.
There is quite a difference between a Lie which led to a war, and a Lie which led to the death of 3000 Americans and other nationals on US soil.
And then that led to another Lie about WMD that led to a full scale Iraq invasion , occupation, followed by insurgencies by opponents to that occupation, and now to an Iraqi-based Sunni Caliphate run by former Saddam military, that in turn invaded Syria.

The Impact of the Vietnam War and the Publishing of the "Pentagon Papers" (2001), by The Book Archive : (3hrs:01min:35secs)

Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell. — Justice Black
Gelb estimated that the Times only published about 5% of the study's 7,000 pages. The Beacon Press edition was also incomplete. Halperin, who had originally classified the study as secret, obtained most of the unpublished portions under the Freedom of Information Act and the University of Texas published them in 1983. The National Security Archive published the remaining portions in 2002. The study remained formally classified, however, until 2011.

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 03:11 AM
See now for an extensive explanation on WHY and HOW they did 9/11 and why they still fall back to these kinds of money making schemes, the paper by E.P. Heidner, about the September 11th Cover-up of both the Black Eagle Trust and Project Hammer :

I advice the interested readers to first start reading at pdf-page 26 through 28, and read especially point 4 on page 26 about the involvement of key players from ONI (the Office of Naval Intelligence), in the years just before 9/11/2001 and then realize that there was a meeting ordered in the early morning of 9/11 in the newly renovated and installed ONI offices in WEDGE 1 at the Pentagon, which were totally obliterated when the plane went through them, and all the not instantly dead ONI victims were later found inside their offices, as heaps in front of clearly closed safety doors, that would have lead them into corridors in their part of that renovated WEDGE 1, away from the fires.
Which findings are pointing at some nefarious glitch in their electronic doors their ID card operated safety locks.
All these locks are battery operated. Do realize the Pentagon will not install inferior safety locks. All the better hotels have them too. They do not rely on the electric grid. Which would have been cut at plane impact at the Pentagon.
On page 28 it gets really interesting with the explanation of the September 11th Cover-up of the Black Eagle Trust, and also Project Hammer :

With the bonds out in the market, they sat for ten years, like a ticking time bomb. At some point, they had to be settled -or cashed in, on September 11, 2001. The two firms in the U.S. most likely to be handling them would be Cantor Fitzgerald and Eurobrokers – the two largest government securities firms in the U.S. The federal agency mostly involved in investigating those transactions was the Office of Naval Intelligence

On that day, those same three organizations : the two largest government securities brokers and the Office of Naval Intelligence in the US took near direct hits. Actually, the jetliners hit immediately below the targeted offices, assuring that the flames would engulf the floors above. This targeting strategy was also used on the 23rd floor of the North tower, which was an FBI evidence repository holding information on allegedly illegal gold transactions.

The 23rd floor FBI office that stored all those evidence files about illegal huge gold transactions in WTC-1N was reported to be full in flames by the first respondents and firemen getting up to pass that floor. Strange, since no plane or parts impacted that relatively low floor. Flight 11 hit WTC1N at its 94th to 98th floors at 08:46:26. WTC1N collapsed at 10:28:31.
The ONI offices were in Wedge 1 in the Pentagon, where Flight 77 hit.

And no splattered jet fuel from the impacted higher up floors could jump from one elevator shaft to another, since elevator banks ended much higher up, where people had to switch elevators at the 72 floor and again at the 42 floor. All tops of lower elevator shafts were air- and fluid tight capped off, exactly to stop any spill-over from burning fluids, or firefighting water, or not act as chimneys for lower formed smoke.
That peculiar 23rd floor fire points intriguingly to deliberate planned arson.

I have been a major physical gold trader in the eighties, and I assure you, there was no closer circuit in financial circles than that physical gold delivery trade. You once failed to pay or deliver your promised international stamped 999,99 bullion bars, and you were out, and would not be trusted ever again, worldwide. There's a black list you didn't want to end up in....
You sometimes had to take the loss and pay the profit value in cash to the buyer, or had to buy higher priced new bars when sometimes your own bullion bars delivery stagnated, or you were worldwide out of that closely self-controlled, secure and tight circle.

At that time, the price was either fixed by the two players at ten in the morning or two thirty in the afternoon based on the London Bullion market price, and in times of tensions, it was fixed per second or minute, so you always had to deliver your promised physical bars within a certain time-frame after fixing, since the receiver had made the same kind of delivery promises to his buyers, with a "small" profit margin added. Or they gambled, kept it, and hoped the price would go up fast or steady over a certain short period.

Those end buyers who always stacked up, were the really big players.
Governments, banks and huge funds. They waited it out.
Or, knew they could "fix" the gold market together with some key players and politicians in the near future.

Gold prices rise substantially in the wake of worldwide incidents, like the Iran hostages rescue debacle in the mid-eighties with those crashed US rescue helicopters on the Iran salt planes while on their low flying rescue course to Tehran.
I made some substantial profit that night and next day as a not expected result.
I got inundated with phone calls from the "circle" members who knew it already before I knew, one thing they forgot however, at my place it was still night, so I knew something big was pulled off, and thus waited with selling bullion bars until my local noon time, then sold all my bullion bars for that fixing price. Very shortly after, minutes, the bullion prices started going down again.

Now recall what happened after 9/11.....
The real insider profit was increasingly made in the steeply rising gold markets after 9/11, not in Wall Street, too obvious. Especially this same scheme repeated itself after the October 2007 markets crash.
Those few stupid traders with 9/11 inside information never dared to cash their profits made by shorting on the airline shares. A few were found to be CIA tight individuals. They were not prosecuted b.t.w. Too difficult to prove any foreknowledge? Or, do not disturb a rattlesnake nest?
Check the gold tradings in the months up to 9/11, and you find the insiders their footprints.
The real planners kept of course out of sight, perhaps some of those gold buying parties their CEO's will spill the beans about the real planners who ordered those gold transactions.

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 03:15 AM
This is the 7,000-page once top-secret Pentagon study of US decision-making in Vietnam during 1945 to 1967, made public in full at last in 2011 by the US government, after 40 years of consistent steadfast secrecy, since 1971 :

Everybody in some power, lied about the onset to that war, and about decisions during that war. At every level; thousands of political, CIA and Military personnel lied knowingly and willingly to the PEOPLE of the world during FIVE US Presidential Administration periods.
Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon.

Do YOU really think anything changed up to this very day...? The USA and its western Allies are hellbent on conquering the rest of the world's resources. And now China, Russia, India and Brazil are stepping in, too, to get their piece of the pie. The silent buy up of Africa's resources as an example.
This is definitely not the path to a peaceful and prosperous world, nor going to end well.

Now you can learn how your governments REALLY work in their back rooms and back yards.
The real question here is: is it the military or the government which is dealing the deck.?

My opinion? Since the end of WW2, the OSS which became the CIA and NSA and some 7 other Agencies, steer the military brass and together they steer and blackmail their bought politicians and by offering huge US Defense contracts they easily steer the industrial conglomerates.

Some politicians are free of corruption but are effectively made powerless by the majority of the bought ones.

It's just as in gang-infected US school yards. The biggest bullies with the biggest hardware, rule and decide. And the somewhat more cowardly inclined and most times more intelligent pupils provide them with assistance and information in exchange for protection, while these bullies can and will strengthen their positions.

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 03:31 AM
Feature Films :
This is an Oct. 2013 interview with the famous Dr. Daniel Ellsberg, who handed over in 1971 to the NY Times and other newspapers later on, the top-secret, 7000 pages long "Pentagon Papers", which he copied at home.
He is now, in this interview talking about recent secrecy revelations and developments about US led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Nothing changed, the US and its Allied military brass are led by the hand by the CIA and various other countries their Secret Services and Agencies, and are still bluntly murdering millions of innocent civilians worldwide on a daily basis, just as they did in Vietnam, without telling their voters. Even the Russians are stepping in again after two decennia of inward aimed policies.

Bradley Manning was the second man after Elsberg to show the public his heaps of secret documents, Edward Snowden was the third, how many more brave and honest men/women do we need before the 9/11 Papers will see the light of day?

We also had CIA insider John Stockwell, and NSA/CIA insider E.P. Heidner spilling the beans.
Search YouTube and Google for them.
This is a filmed example about how the Pentagon brass takes decisions while spending public money like crazy : The Pentagon Wars :

In 1971, Daniel Ellsberg, a leading Vietnam War strategist, concludes that America's role in the war is based on decades of lies to the Electorate. He leaks 7,000 pages of top-secret documents to The New York Times, a daring act of conscience that leads directly to Watergate, President Nixon's resignation and the end of the Vietnam War. Ellsberg and a who's-who of Vietnam-era movers and shakers give a riveting account of those world-changing events in The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers.

Another, recent 41:15 interview with Ellsberg about the Iraq, Afghanistan secret papers :

In 1971, Daniel Ellsberg shook America to its foundations when he smuggled a top-secret Pentagon study to the New York Times that showed how FIVE Presidents consistently lied to the American people about the Vietnam War, that was killing millions of Vietnamese and tens of thousands of young Americans, and tearing America apart.
Read the first review on top of this page 2, and imagine that Colonel Prouty was right and was not another CIA asset. And imagine Ellsberg was manipulated by the CIA too...

Daniel Ellsberg's Website :

I’m proud and honored to announce our new Freedom of the Press Foundation board member, Edward Snowden.

Here’s what Daniel Ellsberg on January 14, 2014 said in his press release :

[Snowden] is the quintessential American whistle blower, and a personal hero of mine, Leaks are the lifeblood of the republic and, for the first time, the American public has been given the chance to debate democratically the NSA’s mass surveillance programs. Accountability journalism can’t be done without the courageous acts exemplified by Snowden, and we need more like him. . . .

The secrecy system in this country is broken. No one is punished for using secrecy to conceal dangerous policies, lies, or crimes, yet concerned employees who wish to inform the American public about what the government is doing under their name are treated as spies. Our ‘accountability’ mechanisms are a one-sided secret court, which acts as a rubber stamp, and a Congressional ‘oversight’ committee, which has turned into the NSA’s public relations firm. Edward Snowden had no choice but to go to the press with information. Far from a crime, Snowden’s disclosures are a true constitutional moment, where the press has held the government to account using the First Amendment, when the other branches refused.

Edward Snowden said :

It is tremendously humbling to be called to serve the cause of our free press. . . on FPF’s Board of Directors. The unconstitutional gathering of the communications records of everyone in America threatens our most basic rights, and the public should have a say in whether or not that continues. Thanks to the work of our free press, today we do, and if the NSA won’t answer to Congress, they’ll have to answer to the newspapers, and ultimately, the people.
Watch the new 12 minutes film by Judith Ehrlich on silencing of CIA whistle blower Jeffrey Sterling. Details of a botched CIA Operation aimed at interrupting Iran’s nuclear weapons program :
which leads to a 12 min. film here :
or here :

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 04:22 AM

Check out the guy in the WTC 7 building in 2:30-3:38 of this video. What was OST doing there?

The U.S. Department of Energy/National Nuclear Security Administration's Office of Secure Transportation (OST) provides safe and secure transportation of nuclear weapons and components and special nuclear materials, and conducts other missions supporting the national security of the United States of America.

edit on 11-1-2016 by twitchy because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 04:54 AM
a reply to: twitchy

Do you have trouble reading...??

His vest clearly says "SECRET SERVICE"

Secret Service had offices in WTC 7

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 11:59 AM
At 3:36 to 3:38 in the above video Twitchy posted, Bennette said he worked for the Secret Service and then the interviewer lastly asked him (wearing a Secret Service bullet repelling vest on his torso; he spelled his name as Bennette), on what title he was there, and Bennette answered : "OST", after a second of hesitation. (Office of Secure Transportation)

Now read again what OST fully means in Twitchy's link.
""....and conducts other missions supporting the national security of the United States of America. ""

And find out what "VRU" means, stamped on the shoulder sack hanging from his right shoulder.
"The Victim Rescue Unit Plus (VRU+) is a protective breathing system that can provide up to 60 minutes of self-contained respiratory protection."
The hood provides 360° visibility and takes just seconds to don. Designed for home, security, law enforcement, first response teams, high-rise building occupants and homeland defense..."

VRU is a radiation/bio protective head wear, also used as a smoke or dust inhalation protection hood.
No, it´s not a Vapor Recovery Unit. That´s a huge compressor plus tank, used in petroleum tank parks to make some more bucks on otherwise lost vapors.

Would you be so kind to observe also, starting at 3:56 in the same video, in what direction the 2 totally broken adjacent glass panels of the Atrium windows of WTC 7 were blown.
Inwards into the Atrium? Or outwards?
Inside the small revolving door is debris laying. Glass? Or WTC2S debris? WTC1N had not collapsed, yet.

Were those 2 glass panels the ones, as said by a police officer, he shot at with his weapon, when trying to lead a group of desperate WTC 1 and 2 inhabitants to safety through and behind WTC 7, by stepping through the thus broken windows and going then through WTC 7 its cellars, towards its backside lower loading ramp, after the collapse of WTC2S?
That could be the case. Or not.

Why not just go to the left or right side streets? They were not full with WTC2S light aluminum cladding debris, as can be seen in photos from around that time.
So why then, did he feel the need to shoot at 2 glass panels? Too much action films "consumed".? Very illogical behavior, just after the South Tower2 collapsed, but before the North Tower1 collapsed.

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 12:25 PM
William Bennette was arrested and charged with stealing three Secret Service cars. Brand new from WTC, that he said were, "destroyed" on 9:11. He was in charge of like their motor pool. So he gave them to his family.


Bennette, 54, of Bayside, Queens, faced six months in prison for re-registering three relatively unscathed cars that were taken from Ground Zero and placed in storage at JFK Airport.

The retired NYPD sergeant, who worked as a technician for the Secret Service at 7 World Trade Center, was ordered in late 2001 to take the cars to the Fresh Kills landfill in Staten Island where they would be scrapped.

Instead he took the cars, feared to be contaminated with asbestos and glass shards, and gave two to his mother in North Carolina and one to his daughter.

“Taking cars home that the government told him to dump? It’s a stretch,” Judge Korman said about the charges that the 27-year NYPD veteran pleaded guilty to last year.

Bennette also used official documents to have two other unused cars moved from a lot on Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn to an auto body shop in Queens.
He was sentenced to six months’ probation with no fine.

I suppose some of our readers would have done the same, while others would probably not do it this way, but ask for the possibilities first at their offices.
Is that the result of ...WHAT...?
Perhaps of 9/11 and the 2008 financial debacle, and its influences on our mindset.? The general increased mistrust of governments, followed by the spread of simple greed and egoism.?

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 02:57 PM
I just saw that the most important link on this page, about WHY and HOW they pulled off 9/11/2001, is a faulty link.
Here's the right one, open it with Adobe Reader and be amazed by E. P. Heidner, a former NSA/CIA insider :

Collateral Damage: U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001 :

posted on Jan, 11 2016 @ 04:21 PM
Now compare the $ 600 billion from this link by Zaphod58, to the explanations on page 26 from Heidner's paper, which confirms that such an amount of dollars is still not accounted for at the Pentagon, in other words not been able yet to be connected to serious and publicly known US Defense spending.
In other words, it's per definition still black money spend on unknown expenses, still not controlled by any audit nor the US Congress.

Of course, we do not really know if the majority of the puppets in Congress indeed wants to know where such an immense amount of black money was spend on, in those ten years up to 9/11/2001. Or in case they do know, if they feel the need to share that knowledge with the rest of the world.
Of course that money was not lost, just UNACCOUNTED for, which means it's unclear on which offensive or defensive goals it was spend. There's no paperwork nor digital traces for it.

Part of it was spend on September 11, 1991 (10 years before 9/11/2001). President George H.W. Bush the Elder was responsible for issuing $240 billion dollars in secretive bonds as a part of the secret attack on the former Soviet Union's Ruble reserves, and six lines of evidence, from eight sources, that suggest exactly that, are explained on page 26 and further by E.P. Heidner.

And now it will hopefully become clear to the US populace, WHY it was so immense important that against all costs, George H.W. Bush son George W. Bush HAD to become the next president, JUST before 9/11 happened, and those bonds had to be "cleared" after their exact ten years period ended on 9/11/2001.

The hypothesis of this Heidner report is:
The attacks of September 11th were intended to cover-up the clearing of $240 billion dollars in securities covertly created in September 1991 to fund a covert economic war against the Soviet Union, during which ‘unknown’ western investors bought up much of the Soviet industry, with a focus on oil and gas. The attacks of September 11th also served to derail multiple Federal investigations away from crimes associated with the 1991 covert operation. In doing so, the attacks were justified under the cardinal rule of intelligence: “protect your resources” and consistent with a modus operandi of sacrificing lives for a greater cause.

E. P. Heidner's extensive analysis following his above hypothesis on his page 1, is the most convincing one I ever read about the onset for 9/11 and its execution.
Everything he brings to the footlights, fits as a glove to what really happened.

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