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WTC-7 Mysteries FINALLY Solved.

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posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:39 AM
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Thank you for posting this video.

Abraham was banned from A&E by deliberately trying to fool the readers about Judy woods space beams weapons taking down the WTC.

BTW Judy Wood has been debunked.

I don't see any Truther in this video debunking Gage. What is your point to this video?
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posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:42 AM
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Richard Gage EXPOSED by Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez at AE911Truth Event on 4/12/2011

If Mr. Gage was searching for the truth, then he would not be trying to deceive people by claiming to present the best "scientific forensic evidence", only to completely ignore the large sum of scientific forensic evidence that thermite does not explain. If a cancer researcher only presented the evidence that supported his hypothesis while completely ignoring the evidence that countered his hypothesis, he would be ridiculed, criticized, and most likely fired from whatever institution he represented for presenting such an unscientific and biased fraction of the total sum of important physical evidence that demands consideration.


How about posting some real sources instead of this Yellow Journalism smut, garbage, opinionated trash.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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Thank you for posting this video.


Now, for the rest of the story.



Richard Gage EXPOSED by Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez at AE911Truth Event on 4/12/2011

If Mr. Gage was searching for the truth, then he would not be trying to deceive people by claiming to present the best "scientific forensic evidence", only to completely ignore the large sum of scientific forensic evidence that thermite does not explain. If a cancer researcher only presented the evidence that supported his hypothesis while completely ignoring the evidence that countered his hypothesis, he would be ridiculed, criticized, and most likely fired from whatever institution he represented for presenting such an unscientific and biased fraction of the total sum of important physical evidence that demands consideration.

vimeo.com...


Even folks who were handling financial affairs for "AE 911 Truth" have attacked "AE 911 Truth" as well and decided to halt any further association with "AE 911 Truth".



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: Informer1958

That won't work in your case. BTW, where are those demo time lines that I have been asking you to produce?



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: skyeagle409

How about attacking A&E science with some credible science?

Where is your science that debunks A&E science? The fact is You have none.

So you go about attacking all the scientist with garbage smut, Yellow journalism, hoax videos, and camera crew ambushing Gage.

Your argument and your desperation to discrete A&E stinks.

Now show me some science that proves the OS of the WTC 7 is true?



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:52 AM
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That won't work in your case. BTW, where are those demo time lines that I have been asking you to produce?


You can keep asking that question another hundred times. Your time line is as phony as a tree dollar bill.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: skyeagle409

BTW why are you not addressing any of my questions?



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: Informer1958

You have to understand that AE 911 Truth is a laughingstock of itself and is not credible, and given the fact that it has been attack from all sides, including Judy Wood and 'Veterans Today.'



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:56 AM
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You can keep asking that question another hundred times. Your time line is as phony as a tree dollar bill.


In other words, and for the record for all to see, you cannot produce evidence of demo explosions in any video that depicts the collapse of WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7.

That explains why seismic machines did not detect demo explosions as those buildings collapsed.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 12:56 AM
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Your questions have been addressed on multiple occasions.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: skyeagle409


You have to understand that AE 911 Truth is a laughingstock of itself and is not credible, and given the fact that it has been attack from all sides, including Judy Wood and 'Veterans Today.'


False.

Your comment is false.

Judy Woods and Veteran Today are proven disinformation.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 01:14 AM
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In other words, and for the record for all to see, you cannot produce evidence of demo explosions in any video that depicts the collapse of WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7.

That explains why seismic machines did not detect demo explosions as those buildings collapsed.


The hardcore fact is After 14 years there is No evidence or scientific evidence that proves the OS of WTC 1, 2 3 is true.

The seismic data has been proven that there were explosions during the demolition of all three WTC and LapTop posted all that in his OP on this thread.

Yet you continue to ignore all the given data and facts.


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posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 01:18 AM
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Your questions have been addressed on multiple occasions.


False.

You have not address the science that proves the OS of WTC 7.

Where is your science?

I am only interested in the science to what happened at WTC 7.

Put or shut up. Post me some real science that debunks A&E and that supports the OS of what happened to WTC 7?


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posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Salander




All those weirdly burned vehicles on the streets, melted tires and such, were made that way by some sort of radiation event. I'm not waiting for the government to explain it to me.


Guess you never seen vehicle fires up close....??

Nothing strange here - only the basement commandos think there is something wrong.

Cars are not too difficult to ignite since most built of plastic these days

If look close at video can see windows broken out by debris

Also notice burned out vehicles parked close together

www.youtube.com...

All it takes is one vehicle set on fire to spread to others - seen it enough times


Those were not ordinary vehicle fires. They were most unusual.

For the sake of discussion, let's say they were ordinary vehicle fires. What do you see as the source of those fires? Did the fires on the 80th floor somehow cause spontaneous combustion to some vehicles on the street below?



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 08:32 AM
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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Informer1958



Thank you for posting this video.


Now, for the rest of the story.



Richard Gage EXPOSED by Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez at AE911Truth Event on 4/12/2011

If Mr. Gage was searching for the truth, then he would not be trying to deceive people by claiming to present the best "scientific forensic evidence", only to completely ignore the large sum of scientific forensic evidence that thermite does not explain. If a cancer researcher only presented the evidence that supported his hypothesis while completely ignoring the evidence that countered his hypothesis, he would be ridiculed, criticized, and most likely fired from whatever institution he represented for presenting such an unscientific and biased fraction of the total sum of important physical evidence that demands consideration.

vimeo.com...


Even folks who were handling financial affairs for "AE 911 Truth" have attacked "AE 911 Truth" as well and decided to halt any further association with "AE 911 Truth".

"handling financial affairs" aka have incentive to lie . . .



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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I right on the money and I posted references as well. You have no case.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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The hardcore fact is After 14 years there is No evidence or scientific evidence that proves the OS of WTC 1, 2 3 is true.


Let's take a look.



Civil & Structural Engineers on WTC Collapse

There are 120,000 members of ASME(American Society of Mechanical Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 370,000 members of IEEE(Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 40,000 members of AIChE(American Institute of Chemical Engineers) who do not question the NIST Report. There are also 35,000 members of AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics) who do not question the NIST report.


Towers Weakened by Planes; Brought Down by Fire

There are123,000 members of ASCE(American Society of Civil Engineers) who do not question the NIST Report. There are also 80,000 members of AIA(American Institute of Architects) who do not question the NIST Report.


Why the World Trade Center Buildings Collapsed: A Fire Chief ’s Assessment

The jet collapsed the ceilings and scraped most of the spray-on fire retarding asbestos from the steel trusses. The steel truss floor supports probably started to fail quickly from the flames and thecenter steel supporting columns severed by plane parts heated by the flames began to buckle, sag, warp and fail. Then the top part of the tower crashed down on the lower portion of the structure. This pancake collapse triggered the entire cascading collapse of the 110-story structure.

vincentdunn.com...


The Structural Engineering Community Rejects the Controlled-Demolition Conspiracy Theory

The structural engineering community rejects the controlled-demolition conspiracy theory. Its consensus is that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings was a fire-induced, gravity-driven collapse, an explanation that does not involve the use of explosives.

The American Society of Civil Engineers Structural Engineering Institute issued a statement calling for further discussion of NIST's recommendations, and Britain's Institution of Structural Engineers published a statement in May 2002 welcoming the FEMA report, noting

The structural engineering faculty at the university issued a statement which said that they "do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones". On September 22, 2005, Jones gave a seminar on his hypotheses to a group of his colleagues from the Department of Physics and Astronomy at BYU. According to Jones, all but one of his colleagues agreed after the seminar that an investigation was in order and the lone dissenter came to agreement with Jones' suggestions the next day.

Northwestern University Professor of Civil Engineering Zdeněk Bažant, who was the first to offer a published peer-reviewed theory of the collapses, wrote "a few outsiders claiming a conspiracy with planted explosives" as an exception. Bažant and Verdure trace such "strange ideas" to a "mistaken impression" that safety margins in design would make the collapses impossible. One of the effects of a more detailed modeling of the progressive collapse, they say, could be to "dispel the myth of planted explosives".

Thomas Eagar, a professor of materials science and engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also dismissed the controlled-demolition conspiracy theory. Eagar remarked, "These people (in the 9/11 truth movement) use the 'reverse scientific method.' They determine what happened, throw out all the data that doesn't fit their conclusion, and then hail their findings as the only possible conclusion."


Civil & Structural Engineers on WTC Collapse

"The aircraft moved through the building as if it were a hot and fast lava flow," Sozen says. "Consequently, much of the fireproofing insulation was ripped off the structure. Even if all of the columns and girders had survived the impact - an unlikely event - the structure would fail as the result of a buckling of the columns. The heat from an ordinary office fire would suffice to soften and weaken the unprotected steel. Evaluation of the effects of the fire on the core column structure, with the insulation removed by the impact, showed that collapse would follow whatever the number of columns cut at the time of the impact."

911-engineers.blogspot.com...


As you can plainly see, you are incorrect at best.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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False.

You have not address the science that proves the OS of WTC 7.


Of course I have and it is time for a review.



Chief Daniel Nigro

Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

The reasons are as follows:

1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.

2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.

3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.

4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)

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Once again, you are incorrect at best.



posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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As you can plainly see, you are incorrect at best.


As we can plainly see, you still copypaste this horseshoe-bender crap as so called 'evidence' in every single thread you can lay your hands on.

You will never admit the difference between opinions and scientific facts, it's pointless. Lost in obedience you are.

Very funny indeed.






posted on Nov, 2 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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Richard Gage and "AE 911 Truth" are not credible. Another case in point.



Major Problems with Tom Sullivan’s AE911Truth “Interview”

1. This image appears on the AE911Truth website in the story about the interview with Tom Sullivan and it is claimed that it is of a thermite cutter charge patent from 1984. It is not.

Imagery: Thermite Cutter Charge Patent

AE911Truth presents this image as a “thermite cutter charge” patent from 1984 and that is false. (Notice that there is no reference given in the AE911Truth article linking to this 1984 document.)

willyloman.wordpress.com...


Which once again, proves my point that Richard Gage and "AE 911 Truth" are guilty of deception and lying.
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