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Is the Pope a Catholic?

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posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 06:22 PM
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On New Years Day 2004 Pope John Paul II called for a "new world order... based on the goals of the United Nations."

When a world leader uses this terminology, it can only mean one thing. He is a part of the Luciferian conspiracy to create a totalitarian world government.

According to Piers Compton, a former Catholic priest, the Papacy was actually subverted by the Illuminati in 1958 when John XXIII became Pope. This was the culmination of a 200-year campaign to infiltrate and destroy the Catholic Church.

Piers Compton was the Literary Editor of the Catholic Weekly The Universe for 14 years. He documents his claims in The Broken Cross, (1981) a book that is almost impossible to find because it was mysteriously withdrawn a few weeks after its release. It is now available in a zip file.

Compton traces the modern phase of the Luciferian Conspiracy to Adam Weishaupt who established the Illuminati on May 1, 1776.

"[Weishhaupt] was backed financially, as are most if not all anarchistic leaders, by a group of bankers under the House of Rothschild. It was under their direction that the long range and worldwide plans of the Illuminati were drawn up." (8)

In 1783, the Illuminati assumed control of much of Freemasonry, which secretly coordinated the revolutionary movement (Liberalism, Socialism, and Communism.) According to David Bay, "secret societies like the "Skull and Bones" have always functioned as Satan's church, as the only way to pass the baton from generation to generation."


[edit on 28-12-2004 by Doctor DTA]




posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 06:45 PM
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There are some who claim that the Pope is an Ashkenazi.

Think about it, Swiss Guards, Bankers, Numbered Accounts, Boris Berezhovsky.

We live in dangerous times.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 06:57 PM
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I don't know if that is true or not, but what I do know is that when a world leader calls for a 'new world order' he is part of the luciferian conspiracy.

We are living in dangerous times as you say, even more so because WE CAN'T TRUST ANYBODY! Seriously who can we trust? like I always say, 'if it is mainstream, it is probably tainted.'

most world leaders, politicians, media people, religious leaders, they are part of the luciferian conspiracy.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:02 PM
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I think we can't trust the media more than anyone that you mentioned. They can twist things around and nobody will be the wiser.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:11 PM
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Yes, we do live in dangerous times, but not because of John Paul II.

He is one of our greatest popes and has done more to bring the different factions of Christianity and peace within the different religions of the world than any other Pope. He also works always for world peace.

Pope John Paul II is to be trusted.


I don't know much about the NWO except what I read at ATS, but, I don't think that it ever could apply to John Paul two.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:22 PM
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Pope John Paul 2nd Would trust him more than any leader on this planet.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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I'm not religious one, but Pope Paul II seems to be very wise and good harted man.
I don't think he is ivolved in NWO -maybe he metioned new world order as hope for better future without thinking about NWO conspiracy???

You know for many NWO doesn't mean anything bad as long as they don't know the conspiracy theory behind that...



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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Is the Pope Catholic?

Well, Jesus wasn't a christian so I guess there is a precedent to take into consideration.

Hehehehe....

I love this site. You good folks are so funny.

Love and light to each of you,

Wupy



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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Have you ever seen this site that talks about the pope as the antichrist?

www.antichristconspiracy.com...

I thought the pictures section showing the popes throne with an inverted cross interesting.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 08:44 PM
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There are some interesting replies in this thread too ...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by merovingian
Have you ever seen this site that talks about the pope as the antichrist?

www.antichristconspiracy.com...

I thought the pictures section showing the popes throne with an inverted cross interesting.


I'm Catholic and I have found this very interesting. The idea that the Catholic church and its leader is Satanic is very odd. I believe the above post more, about how the Pope may be an Illuminati agent.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 08:54 PM
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*makes sign of the cross*

You know, this pope makes me very nervous. I grew up a catholic but i dont know about the pope. This is one scary man- Yes, these are scary times we're living in.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:03 PM
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I really don't think a member of a secret society like the "New World Order"
would go around using phrases like "New World Order". Kind of gives the game away, there.

No, they are much more likely to stay behind the scenes or act like a total bumbler while in postitions of power. That way, everyone underestimates them while they secretly manipulate the world.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
You know, this pope makes me very nervous. I grew up a catholic but i dont know about the pope. This is one scary man- Yes, these are scary times we're living in.


Especially given that many people believe the first John-Paul was murdered and that JP2 was the choice of P2 and Opus Dei. :shk:



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:06 PM
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Opus? Enough to give me the willies!



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:08 PM
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What could be even worse is what will happen when JP2 is gone and a new pope is put in place. Maybe this is one reason why JP2 refuses to step down despite his age and health.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:10 PM
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According to the prophecies of St. Malachy, we only have two more popes after JP2 anyway.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:13 PM
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I thought JP2 was the last one before the final pope? You know who.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:20 PM
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Here are the last five popes according to Malachy ...


264 Paul VI (1963-1978) - Flos florum (flower of flowers)
Hist.: his arms displayed three lilies.

265 John Paul I (1978) - De medietate Lunae (from the midst of the moon)
Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Ogardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on august 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half...

266 John Paul II (1978-) - De labore Solis (of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
Hist.:Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain.

267 ??? 111 Gloria olivae
Revelation 13:3-10; I Thessalonians 5:3

268 ??? In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)


www.biblebelievers.org.au...



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 09:39 PM
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Gotta luv or hate a guy that has his image on a bar of soap on a rope!!

Catholic church has always been about power and money. Did you know for 2 grand US you can get a personal, behind the scenes tour of the Vatican and go places the normal public and believers can never go?? Money talks and the Vatican takes it....

Their libraries that no one ever sees are filled with many tasty tidbits of history - probably good for blackmail and other stuff to keep the royals paying and the masses believing even if what's in there would shoot down the whole house of cards....



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