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Amazing interview heralds the beginning of disclosure? Whistleblower reveals.... + updates

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posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I was wondering how in the world we were going to discuss science when the science of the secret space program is kept secret and sometimes brutally suppressed!



Many things in this world are brutally suppressed, luckily we have intelligent people who realize no matter the stories told the suppression is not in the public interest, and they come out and share what they know, and hopefully do it in a manner which keeps them safe.

If I had something secret to say or knew whatever secrets I had might be a threat to the elite criminal establishment I would just do one huge data dump on multiple sites and multiple youtube channels with hard back-ups sent to many trusted alternative news sources (that is trickier) so whoever might be considering to tie up loose ends would have no unpublished info left to worry about coming out.

PS - sent you a message
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posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


It could be validation that these people do know something, have some sort of insider info or it could be validation that they all take bits and pieces from each other to keep up what ever charade they might be playing or whatever agenda they might be helping either consciously or not knowing they are a part of a disinfo agenda to create beliefs, to create further conspiracies to keep minorities like conspiracy theorists engaged in a never ending cycle of confusion and distrust.


Periods are not the enemy, they can be a writers friend.

Sure, all of this is just speculation at this point, but very interesting and entertaining, so even if it proves to be false it hasn't been a total waste, we're also getting to learn some new theoretical physics. This is actually helping me understand quantum physics much better than I ever have.




If its true, secret alien agreements and councils looking over us and guiding us then I will wait to see or experience the truth instead of bickering on ATS threads about "he said, she said" and needing to feed my ego with implications of 'Oh my beliefs match this, dis-info agents try to shut this down but too many are 'whistleblowing' this for it not be true'



Sure, we will need to see some concrete proof and not just speculation and good stories. However, many have said "soft" disclosure has been going on for a few years now, you can look at statements from the Pope and Vatican on extraterrestrial life, statements from NASA on extraterrestrial life and nearby habitable planets, the SSP member "Gonzales" said the SSP Alliance (rebels) have been flying their otherworldly equipment by the ISS live feed for a couple of years now. Sure some of the youtube videos claiming this sort of thing are bogus, but some can't be as easily dismissed......

Not to mention worldwide exposure of political and banking scandals, corruption and pedophilia........

It seems like "soft" disclosure is happening. Laying the groundwork for something more substantial? After all, if this is true, the masses will have to be somewhat eased into it, and those that have been paying attention seem to be undergoing just that.....





Do you know how often you bring up disinfo agents and try and label other ATSers as such?



Not that often, maybe one in ten to fifteen posts. Do you think there are any on here? When I see people here with thousands or tens of thousands of posts and a few dozen flags for threads I get suspicious, it seems pretty obvious they came on here just to debunk, attempting to emotionally engage people, if they are debunking the truth/suppressing important truths they will accrue significant negative karma and their existence on here in a "supposedly" free society offends me to the core, but I usually try not to let it bother me and accept it.

If I see someone using classic disinfo techniques I know they are either emotionally immature or a disinfo agent and I have no problem pointing that out, either way those styles of debate disrupt, divide and scare decent people off good threads - why should we put up with such behavior, especially when the T & C's here forbid it? (Disagree without being disagreeable)




It reeks of you being that what you accuse or imply others are, I have seen it for while and I am sure quite a few others have as well, although in your case I think you consciously think you are helping spread info and just don't think it through thoroughly enough and when you find something that strokes your ego you need to share it and shout disinfo at many that have differing opinions.





Sure, I don't analyze all data to the nth degree when I see something I think it worthwhile sharing with the real members of the forum, but I know the disinfo agents will attack anything or any message that hasn't been approved by the MSM, government and controlled science. I don't think people on this website are looking for confirmation of the MSM views, do you?




Believers that repeatedly need confirmation and look to find anything and everything that might point to their beliefs being "the truth" are some of the most egotistic people I have come across on the net, yet so many of them claim to have overcome their ego.




You are right, belief and ego are intertwined as one integrates ones beliefs into the self-identity, attack those beliefs and they feel like they themselves are being attacked, you see this all the time on here and in life.

Come at me with a reasoned debate free of emotional/ego engagement with respect to anything I post and I'll be happy to return the favor.




Its entertaining though, sometimes better than what professional entertainers can give.



Maybe you should buy a Sphere Being Alliance t-shirt then if you appreciate at least the entertainment value.



Gotta love ATS, its posters like you that make things fun, I know its a game, its just you take it too seriously and cant see the game you are playing.



You are entitled to your opinion. I could say people like you are too nit-picky and judgemental, all I ever see you doing is jumping all over other posters critiquing their every thought and opinion. You know judgement is a form of ego as well. It is so easy to be an armchair quarterback. Look at you, here three years, over 5000 posts, yet you started only six threads and none of them even close to a conspiracy theory on the world's foremost conspiracy site. Why don't you start some interesting threads?

You seem to have a habit of parsing such posts, nitpicking and judging like usual and getting waaay off topic...........I will respond to posts that are on topic and conform to the above.


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posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: ConnectDots
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

You asked the question how one can know there is a secret space program. I asked you about my post referencing The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, which, to me, is extremely important, because it provided a platform for witnesses to testify before about facts which the mainstream, including the actual, "elected" Congress of the United States, actively hide and suppress.

For those unfamiliar with the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, here is a video which presents an overview:




Yes, I watched that a few years ago. It wasn't a real hearing btw. It was a mock up and they pulled the elected congress from retirement and paid them. That's what I remember.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
Did you watch mirage men?




How is it relevant?

How? I would venture to guess that is where a number of the stories and mythologies that are taken as fact today have their origin. Watch mirage men and then go back rewatch your mock hearings...without any distraction of course.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: ConnectDots
Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, a Faux Hearing About Alien Encounters

Since Monday, five former representatives and a former senator have listened to witnesses talk about a massive decades-long government coverup of extraterrestrial life. The meeting is being billed as the “Citizen Hearing on Disclosure,” and it looks in some respects like a real hearing. Witnesses are sworn in, and there are members of Congress, albeit former ones who are getting paid $20,000 each to attend.

The faux hearing is the latest attempt by the Paradigm Research Group to bring attention to extraterrestrials. Its last was in 2011, when the White House responded to its petition by denying any extraterrestrial contact and politely referring them to real searches for alien life, like SETI. Paradigm plans to use footage from the panel, lent a bit of apparent authority by the former members of Congress, to make a movie about the alleged government coverup of alien life.

The group’s executive director, Stephen Bassett, told the New York Daily News that he initially reached out to 55 former members of Congress with an offer of $10,000 to attend. Not even Dennis Kucinich, who has spoken of his own UFO encounter before, took the deal. Bassett then doubled the offer and got six takers. They’re an eclectic bunch.





posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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Okay, back to investigating the claims in the video in the OP.

Are there currently human colonies on Mars? Pretty farfetched......yet, there was a conference in London this June about overthrowing a Mars dictator described in this post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And we have literally hundreds of Mars anomalies that can't be explained other than by current and past habitation, sure some are really just rocks, but many are not. A poster in another thread JUST uncovered a floating craft and its shadow in one of the Mars Rovers pictures:



from this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

or is the newly released 'miragemen' a clean layer of obfuscation, just for # and giggles?

funbox



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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Also the section above the red line kind of looks like a road, it is in the place you would put a road, and it would make sense that the craft would be following the road:




posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

or is the newly released 'miragemen' a clean layer of obfuscation, just for # and giggles?

funbox


Could be...point is that you can't really tell what's what. Which is kind of my ongoing theme.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

the whole point yes , but making it worst by releasing that doco, did you snort a few times whilst watching it ? how long will this stupid dance go on , in 40 years what will they be saying ? in 100 , 150 ? like we've discussed before , there's a nasty stain in history, especially in regards to the abduction phenomena /mutilations etc

funbox



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian


Since Monday, five former representatives and a former senator have listened to witnesses talk about a massive decades-long government coverup of extraterrestrial life. The meeting is being billed as the “Citizen Hearing on Disclosure,” and it looks in some respects like a real hearing. Witnesses are sworn in, and there are members of Congress, albeit former ones who are getting paid $20,000 each to attend.

The faux hearing is the latest attempt by the Paradigm Research Group to bring attention to extraterrestrials. Its last was in 2011, when the White House responded to its petition by denying any extraterrestrial contact and politely referring them to real searches for alien life, like SETI. Paradigm plans to use footage from the panel, lent a bit of apparent authority by the former members of Congress, to make a movie about the alleged government coverup of alien life.

The group’s executive director, Stephen Bassett, told the New York Daily News that he initially reached out to 55 former members of Congress with an offer of $10,000 to attend. Not even Dennis Kucinich, who has spoken of his own UFO encounter before, took the deal. Bassett then doubled the offer and got six takers. They’re an eclectic bunch.



This information is someone "opinion" and there are no facts to validate that it is true. Sorry I don't believe in everything I read unless there are credible sources to back up such claims.
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posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
I don't bother with MSM, but you have to use discernment in the alternative media as well, the CIA is not stupid, usually.

Very good point.



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

No worries my friend.

I have to commend your persistence in working through this. I have to say I am very skeptical myself (I've seen this "whistleblower" stuff a number of times and it could be the work of the Mirage men (oh the irony)). I do detect that you are not entirely convinced yourself.

But I think you are enjoying the journey it takes you on and if it all turns out to be bunk then I suppose it's still an entertaining ride!



posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

No worries my friend.

I have to commend your persistence in working through this. I have to say I am very skeptical myself (I've seen this "whistleblower" stuff a number of times and it could be the work of the Mirage men (oh the irony)). I do detect that you are not entirely convinced yourself.

But I think you are enjoying the journey it takes you on and if it all turns out to be bunk then I suppose it's still an entertaining ride!


It is farfetched compared with most of what we see on here and the threads you have researched........though it would go a long way in explaining, if true, many of the topics you have covered.

And it is entertaining! That Mars tour of the human slave colony had me on the edge of my seat!

According to these sources the timetable for disclosure is now in the acceleration phase.......so we should see some fantastic things in the next weeks and months.....if true. If we haven't seen anything earthshaking by the end of the year then I will concede the info was probably not true.....

What do you think about the craft and its shadow on the ground in the post above that funbox found? It is a legitimate Mars picture.




posted on Aug, 6 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: ConnectDots

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
I don't bother with MSM, but you have to use discernment in the alternative media as well, the CIA is not stupid, usually.

Very good point.


Many of us have been fooled by those parts of the alternate media which are just more disinfo.

For example, some site comes out with some pics or story which look cool and authentic. Many people jump on board and say stuff like "see, proof of EBE's" or "proof of coverups" but then the story proves not to be true.

The narrative the CIA, NSA or the corporate players want to achieve is this, because some of the stuff is fake, all of it is fake. Of course that is a logical fallacy.......but many of the people who are asleep buy into this narrative, the bulk of the population - heck I used to be like that.

Here is another good alternative site for you connectdots, good for searching for topics that are hard to find in the MSM:

Bibliotecapleyades - alternative topics site

Weird name, just because it is on this site doesn't make it true, but much seems legit, and I don't believe this site is controlled manipulated by the PTB, or at least very little - use your own discernment

A quick search led to this list of Media manipulation articles:

Bibliotecapleyades list of Media Manipulation articles
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posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: Informer1958

This information is someone "opinion" and there are no facts to validate that it is true. Sorry I don't believe in everything I read unless there are credible sources to back up such claims.

Well...ok? which part are you missing? you validate the facts and I am pretty sure that you can verify everything there. like "Stephen Bassett, told the New York Daily News..."

An opinion would be like, "it was a waste of time"...but there are some very checkable facts here.
1. it wasn't a real hearing
2. 6 former members of congress participated, no current members
3. they were paid $20,000

"The group’s executive director, Stephen Bassett, told the New York Daily News..."

Are you saying Stephen Bassett is lying or that its a lie that he ever said this?

the New York Daily News article


The former lawmakers, including former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Alaska), listened with “open” minds and full pockets for several hours Tuesday at a simulated congressional hearing taking testimony that extraterrestrials “are here.”

“I came here being very skeptical, but I also recognize that I don’t know much about it,” said former Rep. Darlene Hooley (D-Ore.)

The six are being paid $20,000 each, plus expenses, by a group called the Paradigm Research Group, which insists UFOs are real and the government has been covering up their existence.

The group’s executive director, Stephen Bassett, told the Daily News that he initially contacted 55 former members of Congress with an offer of $10,000, among them former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), who famously recounted a UFO citing. After few responded, Bassett said he doubled the pay. That helped, he said.






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posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 01:50 AM
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originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

the whole point yes , but making it worst by releasing that doco, did you snort a few times whilst watching it ? how long will this stupid dance go on , in 40 years what will they be saying ? in 100 , 150 ? like we've discussed before , there's a nasty stain in history, especially in regards to the abduction phenomena /mutilations etc

funbox


snort what? I gave that up years ago. I thought it was insightful. I guess I don't really care what anyone is saying. If the Government is saying there are no aliens...yeah well, that doesn't mean much either. I think we rely too much on what people say, which is what makes us easy targets. in 100 years, I am pretty sure I still wont care what they will be saying...maybe you will change your mind?



posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 02:04 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


According to these sources the timetable for disclosure is now in the acceleration phase.......so we should see some fantastic things in the next weeks and months.....if true. If we haven't seen anything earthshaking by the end of the year then I will concede the info was probably not true.....

I'm not going to hold you to that or gloat ...or anything like that. I promise. but if the blue bird people do come, I have no idea what im going to do.



posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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Doritos
, but I agree to not listening and more looking, take for example this crab thing on mars hubbub , they haven't even got the time when the picture was taken right.. things have got so damned lazy, truth mixed with fiction and vice versa, I can almost hear Fort's Quazi-chuckles from the grave


funbox



posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


According to these sources the timetable for disclosure is now in the acceleration phase.......so we should see some fantastic things in the next weeks and months.....if true. If we haven't seen anything earthshaking by the end of the year then I will concede the info was probably not true.....

I'm not going to hold you to that or gloat ...or anything like that. I promise. but if the blue bird people do come, I have no idea what im going to do.



I will be happy to admit if nothing significant disclosure-wise happens by the end of the year then there was probably nothing to this.......that does not mean however the timeline is longer. Either way I'll be happy to admit it.

I'm happy to admit now I was wrong about Planet X, however I think I started off on that honestly, paying attention to weird Earth changes, like increased earthquake and volcanic activity, animal deaths, increase in fireball, strange constitutional amendments etc - it wasn't something I just picked up from the internet, I was looking for something to tie all the weird events together.

However, now I think it was some kind of psy-op used on people who were starting to question things, starting to awake, and it was just one more mechanism to put these people in fear, as we all know people in fear are easier to control.

That is one of the things I like abut this message, it is amazing news for mankind, if true.

Anyway, I don't really want to continue a discussion about Planet X, but feel free to add any comments you wish on this.

I would like to talk about this amazing picture another member blew up and found something interesting which supports this story in a small way, that is Mars is currently inhabited by human colonies.

Do you deny there is what appears to be some kind of craft and its shadow right below it?




posted on Aug, 7 2015 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Doritos
, but I agree to not listening and more looking, take for example this crab thing on mars hubbub , they haven't even got the time when the picture was taken right.. things have got so damned lazy, truth mixed with fiction and vice versa, I can almost hear Fort's Quazi-chuckles from the grave


funbox





Hey funbox, what kind of craft do you think they caught in the picture above that you found? It kind of looks like a harrier jump-jet, but I would expect more dust to be blown from the ground. Maybe it is a Harrier jet with anti-grav installed?

Also, do you think that is a road along the base of the hills? The floating craft seems to be following it.



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