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Is Islam the Solution to the West's Deep Internal Malaise?

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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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What the hell, man?

What would entail these kids growing up "quite right"? And ..........

what?

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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

What the hell, man?

What would entail these kids growing up "quite right"? And ..........

what?


Exactly!

Separate but equal...why does that sound so familiar [/sar]

I'm of the opinion this thread is clickbait.

Jas



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: grandmakdw

Okay, I think I'll just do it here, publicly.


Well, right now the fruit of Islam
that is what it actually does and actually is
can be seen quite clearly in all of the
Middle Eastern Islamic Theocracies.


I am no fan of Muslim theocracies. Or ANY theocracy. Here, or abroad.


These countries are run entirely on the
word of the Koran.


And, so - what about the people who want to run a country entirely on a different 'religious text' called The Bible? What about them? How is it any different?


]What the world sees is rotten fruit,
all of it, entirely.


Mmkay. Yes.

And.....
So - can you help me understand why so many Americans are negative about the idea of the Right-Wing "Christian" Conservatives taking over?

Just, not able to connect the dots.


You are assuming I want a Christian theocracy or think it is desirable.

I do not.

You assume I want right wing Christian conservatives to "take over" the country. I do not.

I want the US to follow the constitution:
establishing no religion
guaranteeing freedom OF religion (the ability to practice one's religion without interference from the government)

That is what I want.

I also want Christians to be able to speak in the public forum of ideas without being made fun of or called people who want to "take over" the US. I want to be free of the constraints imposed on Christians in the form of politically correct speech and the attempt to enact thought control over people of faith.

I want Muslims to also have the ability to practice their religion and to be guaranteed freedom OF religion in the US.

I want atheists to have the ability to shun and eschew religion if they wish it.

Yes, I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean I want to take over the US or have a theocracy or rule the world, far from it.
Christ did not come to rule the world, or to have a political agenda. As a Christ follower I know that Christ would not want a theocracy. He was quite clear about that.
John 18:36The Message (MSG)
36 “My kingdom,” said Jesus, “doesn’t consist of what you see around you. If it did, my followers would fight so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. But I’m not that kind of king, not the world’s kind of king.” Jesus never claimed to rule a theocracy, and he was very very clear that Christianity was not about political takeover. Influence, yes. Christians are obliged to influence the world for the better, but never to establish a theocracy.


However, back to the OP, the Koran is quite clear that Muslims are obligated to rule the world politically. Muhammad was a political leader who savagely murdered all opponents in order to gain political power.


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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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OK, people...

As you can see above, this is not a forum for discussing, much less psychoanalyzing, fellow members. It would behoove you to, going forward, remember this.

The topic is: Is Islam the Solution to the West's Deep Internal Malaise?

Do Not Respond To This Post.


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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Drest
Now I feel like I've needlessly antagonized a bunch of old people. This is really unfortunate, because in real life a young guy like me wouldn't be talking that way to an older person. And I wouldn't have, had I known.

What exactly is the median age group of people frequenting this site, I wonder?


Who cares...answer the salient questions related to the OP.

Å99


You asked what the malaise is?

It's a lot of different things. Noticably, it's the lack of depth I see in people today. Where you see freedom to do what you please, I see a bunch of vultures hovering over you, preying on the impressionable in a horrifyingly subtle, clever way. It's the fear of losing your loved ones to a culture that encourages people to care only for themselves. It's the fear of your own powerlessness in the face of popular current.

It used to be, people like me could go out and live away from it all, get away from the society they so dislike. No longer. It seems like it's everywhere, it's permeated every corner of the developed world. Nowadays they'll get you for trying to do things your own way. The unassailable walls of government regulation see to that quite nicely.

Basically, it's the fear that your wonderful paradigm takes over this world. A prospect that scares me so deeply I don't know what to do. And it's so, so close.

Abstract, I know. But you asked and I answered.
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:45 PM
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Hi guys,

Throwing a wrench in as usual:

Discuss: serving one God, as opposed to many - aetheists have their own - from within apparently - but so do religious people.

If we serve one, we have less reason to fight - since we have many - we have a fight - are we winning yet??? Or do you suspect something sinister?

If you have no agenda, why the suspiscions? What is there to suspect, everybody for himself, including your leaders - why should they care about you? They don't put you or God or anyone in charge except themselves - because they only believe in numero uno - and you argue that that is the greatest thing with no limits barred.

Dog eat dog is ok then. - Aethiest agenda - written in the chronicles of Moby Dick - which they all cater to. Oops they can't all be right then????



posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:46 PM
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Basically, it's the fear that your wonderful paradigm takes over this world. A prospect that scares me so deeply I don't know what to do


Take that and multiply it by a thousand, put it on steroids, and then you might begin to understand how we feel about an Islamic country here.
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posted on Jul, 27 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: Drest

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Drest
Now I feel like I've needlessly antagonized a bunch of old people. This is really unfortunate, because in real life a young guy like me wouldn't be talking that way to an older person. And I wouldn't have, had I known.

What exactly is the median age group of people frequenting this site, I wonder?


Who cares...answer the salient questions related to the OP.

Å99


You asked what the malaise is?

It's a lot of different things. Noticably, it's the lack of depth I see in people today. Where you see freedom to do what you please, I see a bunch of vultures hovering over you, preying on the impressionable in a horrifyingly subtle, clever way. It's the fear of losing your loved ones to a culture that encourages people to care only for themselves. It's the fear of your own powerlessness in the face of popular current.

It used to be, people like me could go out and live away from it all, get away from the society they so dislike. No longer. It seems like it's everywhere, it's permeated every corner of the developed world. Nowadays they'll get you for trying to do things your own way. The unassailable walls of government regulation see to that quite nicely.

Basically, it's the fear that your wonderful paradigm takes over this world. A prospect that scares me so deeply I don't know what to do. And it's so, so close.

Abstract, I know. But you asked and I answered.


You've dodged the actual question.

Why are westerners, all 'round the world, emmigrating to hard-line, predominantly muslim nations?

Å99



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