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Is Islam the Solution to the West's Deep Internal Malaise?

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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:08 AM
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Here on ATS, I'm sure that many of you know this malaise I speak of. You can't quite put your finger on it, but you know it's there, you can feel it. A brooding sense of unwell, uncertainty, and fear of what's to come. But you, my dear readers, are the lucky ones. Your still have enough of your wits to understand that something is deeply wrong here. Others are not so fortunate.

What are the symptoms of this malady, on a mass scale? Selfishness. Rampant materialist appetites. Pessimism. Hedonism. Cloying notions of tolerance and nicety, that while good in theory, are merely avenues to self-righteous "feel good" morality. The ineffectual, pretentious nature of modern social equity movements is evident in that they have accomplished almost nothing, particularly when compared to the (far more admirable) Civil Rights movements of the past century. Righteous indignation only means something when it's genuine.

The twisted mockery that is Western politics, shamelessly passing itself off as democracy. Hyper-inflated bureaucratic entities that devour capital and resources without any tangible benefit to the public. Venal, indecisive leadership firmly in the grip of corporate interests, good only for public flattery and pathetic displays of obeisance. A thoroughly dilapidated public school system that soaks up funding with scarcely any improvement.

I could go on. I need not list every example of our utter failure as a society. You see it everyday. You see it in the vacuous, conceited personalities of our youth. You see it in the media, coldly pandering to the basest human preoccupations with violence and sex, satisfying our voyeuristic urges. Glutting ourselves on MTV reality shows, Call of Duty, and Doritos. Minds warped by the need for constant stimulation.

To be frank, we are lost. We have descended utterly into a nightmare of corporeal gluttony, unbridled avarice of the worst order. If I may be so bold as to coin a new term for this degradation: inverted transcendence. Downward progression. Oxymoronic terms, yes, and perfectly apt to describe the present.

Total submission to mundane urges is precisely the manner of our enslavement. Brilliant, isn't it? TBTB didn't have to put you in chains. They didn't need to.

You simply enslaved yourself.

You, the atheist with a masturbation addiction. You, the Evangelical who gets a dopamine rush from proselytizing. You, the languid pothead who spends his time raving about police on the Internet. You, the sexually liberated female who bases her self-worth on sexual exploits and male attention. You, the secular Western humanist, unaware that you simply traded one ideology for another.

All of you, oblivious to your own myopic hypocrisy.

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Enter ISLAM. Islam, the hated foe of the West, the adversary who stands opposed to every "freedom" that we cherish.

Islam, utterly uncompromising, unbending, unyielding. A stalwart, powerful religion that refuses to bend to global currents. Defiant. The religion that spits in the face of globalist hegemony. The religion that inspires people to live and die by it's tenets, regardless of inconvenience, danger, and death.

But the most important aspect of Islam, the quality that could liberate us all, is it's disdain for selfish desire. Islam is a brotherhood, a community, and it prizes Discipline and Self-Control above all other qualities. Discipline is submission to Allah, it is an acknowledgement and an attestation of faith.

Muslims only serve one master, and I would sooner submit to him than live as a stupefied, lobotomized slave to my own desires.

Would you?

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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:13 AM
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No... As soon as you label yourself as anything you become a stupefied slave in my book.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:16 AM
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a reply to: Drest

You're not an ISIS goon are you?



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:16 AM
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a reply to: Drest

I will bow to no god, especially the non existent.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:17 AM
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So well written... If a little confrontational.

But wasted, or unmoving on the audience that awaits you.


Shame about the proselytising accusation...
Seems you did a bit of that too.

Salam.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Not unmoving, I actually enjoyed reading it and in ideology it sounds great. In reality however, I could never convert to Islam as long as their is Jihad. I just don't feel it bro.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:22 AM
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NO. Evil is not the answer. Anything that is about theocracy, forcing, making someone stand under your insane ideas, and not have self empowerment to have a mind of their own and power in their own lives, is Evil beyond. Its slavery. It is satanic and also comes from Sumar. Saturn and the Reptile/Serpent races, and their massive abuse of women and children and freedom.

Any theocracy or fascism is slavery.

Anyone is free to choose any spiritual belief, don't like religion, and follow established pathways, providing they don't hold to any illegal, abusive, murderous or criminal statues in old books, and only see the highest good, ie go within, meditate, etc, pray for others, compassion. I'm sure there are modern, progressive Muslims who enjoy living in democracies and ignore all criminal writing in their books, just like Christians do.

So if that is your stance, not thecracy or fascism or slavery, but freedom to choose what you want in a free society. Already have that. Some may choose to be muslims.
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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:25 AM
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In all recorded history there has not been a single positive theocracy,not even a Buddhist one.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:26 AM
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one thing i read on ats awhile back is that the Abrahamic religions are silly. with islam being about the worst of the lot i would tend to agree with that. we are pretty lost though. but i dont think a joke of an abrahamic relgion created what 1300 years ago will save us. at least i hope not. based on the Moroccans i know or any muslim for that matteror any folwoer on the abrahmic religons.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:26 AM
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one thing i read on ats awhile back is that the Abrahamic religions are silly. with islam being about the worst of the lot i would tend to agree with that. we are pretty lost though. but i dont think a joke of an abrahamic relgion created what 1300 years ago will save us. at least i hope not. based on the Moroccans i know or any muslim for that matteror any folwoer on the abrahmic religons.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: Drest





Muslims only serve one master, and I would sooner submit to him than live as a stupefied, lobotomized slave to my own desires.


Serving only one master seems to me to be by definition stupid and lobotomised .



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Not unmoving, I actually enjoyed reading it and in ideology it sounds great. In reality however, I could never convert to Islam as long as their is Jihad. I just don't feel it bro.


Depends what you mean by Jihad.

If you mean raping and pillaging, ISIS jihad, that's not for me either...

If you mean all forms of self defence, as well as freedom to go on a personal inner journey, that is Quranic Jihad, and it's 2 causes I'll fight to keep until my final breathe.


Edit;
But, to each their own.
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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:31 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with the first section, but the second section I have to disagree with. All religions have contributed to the state of the world today, huge conglomerate belief systems that pander their particular truths to the masses causing division and hate. Even Islam has contributed to this mess in one way or another.

Islam was part of the Crusades, they are part of the war on terror today. In your opinion true Muslims do not fight and kill people,but I would expand that to almost any normal person no matter their belief system, yet the belief system is still used in terrible ways just as Christianity has been used. They are all guilty in some way. Buddhism may be the only "religion" that I would exclude from this group though, I do not consider it a religion but more of a philosophy.

Like I said, great first part of the OP but Islam being the answer is not true, they have as much to do with this war as America, soldiers being used to kill other people. Both sides are working together, both politically and religiously in my opinion.
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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:35 AM
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a reply to: Drest

Star and flag for a beautifully articulated post, but no. I don't want to live in a theocracy.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:36 AM
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Is Islam the solution...


No.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I'm not going to lie to Charlie, Islam scares the crap out of me. I know their has been a lot of war and hard times for Islamic countries in the past, perpetrated by the West which is why it scares me even more.

This is why many youngsters are getting easily radicalised. It's just too easy to paint a picture of western evil. I hate our governments for that btw.

What worries me is exponential radicalism. Young minds being bended to think that what IS are doing is right and just because Mohammed said so.

I am 100% sure that this mindset is going to spread more than anyone will let on.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Drest

We should trade America for Islam? Which parts of America would you like for us to trade again? All the bad parts? You propose we accept Allah and Islam at full face value without a reckoning? Do me a favor, please. Tell me what evils lie in your Culture, denounce them as you do America, and accept all the good parts of our religious beliefs and daily practices.

We should unite all faiths, wisdoms, and ways of life. Many roads are needed to flock our masses to any destination.

Islam pride need not bother in a land built upon seperation of Church and State. You are barking up the wrong tree. Your wisdom is central to your perception, your cup is too full, spilling over. Don't attempt to fill what you do not perceive with your only perception. You write well. Let us start there, solid communication.



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: Drest

Are you a Dominionist?









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posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: Drest




You, the sexually liberated female who bases her self-worth on sexual exploits and male attention.


Really , what sort of women do you hang with . Just what sort of idealogical crap is that .




You, the atheist with a masturbation addiction.


Which are you , a liar or a masturbater . Go on tell your lies here ------->



posted on Jul, 26 2015 @ 12:47 AM
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a reply to: Wide-Eyes

The ISIS hype is like a metaphorical premature ejaculation from a self proclaimed porn star...

Every day my Twitter feed is littered with dozens sometimes hundreds of dead ISIS militants per day...



As for young Muslims, a large majority despise ISIS...
Gotta watch for any who slip through the cracks...


But ISIS' rise and fall is coming to a head, they shot themselves in the foot by targeting everyone at once...
Left themselves no chance to really convert or radicalise a large portion of the globe.

Had they done things differently, who knows how big they'd have grown...
I'm not worried about them though, soon enough they'll fall on their own sword.



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