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Topic started on 14-8-2002 @ 10:58 AM by Cobra8534
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Aliens can not live on Earth because they would not breathe the same air we do. Their immune systems would not be adapted to our bacteria and viruses
so they would die.
Another point i have about "Grays" If the Grays reproduce by cloning and need our DNA to survive, how could the Grays have lived in the first place?
Were they born with the ability to clone?? The first two grays could not have survived with no reproductive organs because how would they reproduce???
They didn't always have cloning technology
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 11:14 AM by Lupe
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I think maybe you need to stay off the X-Files for a few weeks.
grays?
cloning?
no reproductive organs?
I'm not sure where your getting your ideas from but they're amazingly naive.
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 02:47 PM by Cobra8534
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O shut up. Ive read on multiple sites that an alien race called the "Grays" which is the type of alien seen most often abducts humans so they can
clone us or whatnot.
Your the one who needs to chill. I can't beleive anyone would believe that aliens come here constantly and mutilate us and perform experiments. Its
insane when you think about it. 90% of the stuff on this site can be proved not true with simple fact and science.
[Edited on 14-8-2002 by Cobra8534]
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 03:34 PM by Rabid_Gnu
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90% of the stuff on this site can be proved not true with simple fact and science.
So shall we be expecting a massive debunking post from you in which you'll solve the complexities of the universe then?
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 04:09 PM by nyeff
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Where are your facts on what alien's can and cannot do?Facts and science only work with what we know on earth.Nobody knows what life my be like in
another galaxy.You have no idea if it possible for another life form to live here.
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 04:27 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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For one thing, the earliest evidence of alien contact on Earth (literally carved in stone) indicate that the aliens wore pressure suits capable of
holding their atmosphere in & our bacteria out...Or haven't you seen *human* astronauts wearing their space suits before?
Thus safe from our atmosphere, they could've taken a few samples & used gengineering techniques to innoculate themselves against earthly
diseases...The same way that humans create innoculations for ourselves today.
I think you've taken the end of the martian-invasion from War of the Worlds a little too seriously...
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 05:20 PM by Jack Deth
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I've noticed that most people that visit this site actually don't believe in anything conspiracy oriented.
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 05:38 PM by OrionSirius
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yup Jack..they dont..they dont belong here..its sad tho that most people wont believe..its pathetic how blind and closed minded they are.
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 09:15 PM by Byrd
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It's hard to say anything about alien physiology since we haven't actually confirmed-in-front-of-everyone found one.
I will point out, though, that before the Hills were abducted, there was no mention of the "greys." The aliens reported before that tended to be
humanoid (VERY humanoid).
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 09:48 PM by Cobra8534
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than why in pictures of aliens they are wearing no space suits or anything??? And its true. Aliens would die from disease.
And on you saying most people that come here that are new don't believe and are not open minded. Come on, you people are TOO open minded. I mean come
on 90% of the stuff you say cannot be real.
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 10:05 PM by nyeff
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How do you know they would die from disease?Did you read that in a book somewhere.Did a spirit come down and whisper in your ear.It's better to have
an open mind,than to have closed mind.You miss too much looking into a tunnel. 
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reply posted on 14-8-2002 @ 10:15 PM by UniQue Werkx
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Maybe the gray's wouldn't need pressure suits etc.... because if they are as smart as they are made out to be I'm sure they would have come up with
something by now (in a few thousand + years?!?!?) to counter the viruses & air etc.....
That is if they exist. heh heh
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reply posted on 15-8-2002 @ 12:46 AM by Devin
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Maybe our diseases wouldn't affect them, just like animal diseases don't affect us. 
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reply posted on 15-8-2002 @ 04:37 AM by Lupe
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"than why in pictures of aliens they are wearing no space suits or anything??? And its true. Aliens would die from disease"
I thought this had been explained to you.
in most "photographs" of aliens the "alien" is dead.
the specific autopsy videos you refer to would obviously not include suits.
secondly we have no idea what a suit would look like, its been postulated that the large reflective dark eyes "greys" often have atributed to them
could well be part of a helmet of some sort.
Lastly, ~why~ do you insist disease would kill them? I went to Egypt a few years back, there are several rather nasty diseases out there that my imune
system would not be able to cope with because I've never been in contact with them. Thats why before I went I booked in to the Doctors and got
inoculated.
If humans visited another planet don't you think they'd send probes to check for virus's first and design inoculations before sending unsuited
humans to the surface?
I really think you need to think some of your theories through a little more.
"And on you saying most people that come here that are new don't believe and are not open minded. Come on, you people are TOO open minded. I mean
come on 90% of the stuff you say cannot be real."
I think your problem Cobra is that your lumping everyone here together as though we all share the same views and attitudes.
I'm a skeptic. I consider the possibility of extraterrestrial life and look for proof.
Until I have that proof I can't say what I believe.
Maybe there are blood drinking reptoids under dulce, who knows?
not me, not you, the only thing we can attempt to do is objectively check and recheck the facts in the hope that we can formulate a verifiable
hypothesis for the ufo phenomenon.
Some people here believe they have that.
some don't.
there are people on this site who believe in an omnipotent being that controls the universe called "God"
I personally find that far more insane than somone who thinks life may exist on other planets.
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reply posted on 15-8-2002 @ 09:00 AM by Ark-Angel
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Grey's
My Belief, is the the "Grey's" are clones and that is for the long voyage or dimensional trip to get here. I'm seeing them as a living computer
or Borg would perhaps help explain them. I see them as a droid that is part computer and bio matter. Were trying to send probes to other planets and
having a machine that could "Think" would go a long way. Send these Greys to other worlds to collect data, thus the lack of emotion people report on
being abducted are like expecting your pc to feel sorry you bounced a check (LOL)
Cloning is what the Greys are so their should be a master race in charge of them or those who sent them here to explore this world of ours. Like I
said they appear to me to be a living machine (Roswell and how the controls appeared to be controled by them being wired into the circut), sent to
explore planets, making me believe their must be someone waiting to hear the results of what they find.
So we should not be looking at the Grey's but really should be looking at " WHO " sent them...
Michael
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reply posted on 15-8-2002 @ 09:29 AM by Lupe
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see Cobra.
there are nut cases here, you simply shouldn't lump the rest of us in with them.
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reply posted on 15-8-2002 @ 10:05 PM by Ark-Angel
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 Originally posted by Lupe
see Cobra.
there are nut cases here, you simply shouldn't lump the rest of us in with them. 
Lupe
I take the statement with a grain of salt, since this enitire site is where people come and share thoughts, mocking others takes away that liberty of
expression.
Your own statement above shows how you yourself express what you feel. Why do people feel the need to bash other people who may not think the same,
is that a form of Hitlerisim.
We today are on the verge of creating a clone of ourselves, do you think that maybe there are people out there who would love to experiment on a
Clone having NO RIGHTS (as yet ) to protest their abuse.
Michael
[Edited on 16-8-2002 by Ark-Angel]
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reply posted on 16-8-2002 @ 08:39 AM by Lupe
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its good that you took it with a pinch of salt.
anyway my point was that this is a forum for theorists.
there is a different between a theory and a piece of imaginative writing which is what your belief was.
If your going to say that you believe greys are clones or whatever then you need to back it up with "why" you believe these things, what prompted
you to decide on your theory.
simply stating that based on your understanding of the human species you find it likely that another species that had continued to evolve would behave
in the way you describe would be enough.
but saying "I believe this" is the same as saying "I believe Elvis lives" it'll just prompt people to go "uh, right.....ok......nutter"
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reply posted on 17-8-2002 @ 02:37 PM by The Director
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Elvis IS alive, he works in a burger bar in Texas
Nah, he went home really 
I think people should stop smokeing the wackky backy before posting here.
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reply posted on 18-8-2002 @ 02:50 AM by Ark-Angel
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Originally posted by Lupe
its good that you took it with a pinch of salt.
Lupe,
My belief is just that mine! So why does it bother you enough you had to "Label" someone.
Lets look at this as a theory, how could we examine a planet in another galaxy? Sending people would take too long, and perhaps the real way is to
bend space upon itself, shortest distance between 2 points is one. Enstien came up with a space travler who leaves and flys faster than light in which
time is distorted, so that he see's himself leaving for the trip on returning.
Reading books I see mention that the Grey's appear to be a clone race, SG-1 (TV) just had the same thought of a clone race dying and looking for a
purer dna to stop them from dying. (was that disinformation or information released to us)Lt Col Corso wrote "The Day after Roswell", about those
things he was aware of and how he could use the technology for Military use. 
Today we are on the verge of 'Cloning' could we engineer a 'clone' for the sole purpose of flying a ship to another planet to see what is there?
I think we could in time, so what if another race did what I see as a belief 'clones used as computers to navigate a ship would seem as a way to
overcome the problem' . Grey's are discussed as having no external sex organs along with no orifice for dischage of waste. A long trip in space
would require food, unless a 'clone' designed without those things that might make the trip worse redesigned. Imagination is what brought about
Airplanes, and the desire to enter space itself. Imagination gave Lowell his drawings of Mars and life upon it, it's Imagination we start with that
help us find the truth to our Theroy's. Excel is a spreedsheet program from Microsoft, this program gives the user the chance for doing "What if"
looks at how things could change using different formula's.
I put a formula using that "What if" way and then thought about what would it take to explore another world, cost,time,explorers live's, fuel,
etc. Looking at other people "Belief's" and seeing again a formula and letting others use it as open source code for understanding what may be
happening.
Grain of Salt I hope you take this as, try not to "Label" and I think we all will get to the answer faster.
Michael
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